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How would you feel if the NX is weaker than the Wii U?
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Corronchilejano
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Nintendo constantly releases consoles less powerful than their previous one?
Fourth Storm
Member
There it is!
Alright, so back to the drawing board?! Now we have one more data point, lol.
matrix-cat
Member
I'd be pretty disappointed with (and baffled by) a 2016 or 17 home console that still had to settle for sub-1080p. It's been the TV standard pretty much since the start of the last generation.
Nose Master
Member
Doesn't really matter for me, but it won't sell unless it's mobile or has a brilliant gimmick.
Fourth Storm
Member
Doesn't stop it from being a Wii U 1.5 or even just a re-purposed Wii U. haha.
Claude Augario
Member
I don't understand the premise of this thread. Why would it be weaker? How? What would be the justifications? Is the console doing something else that would somehow require it to be weak? How does Nintendo go about acquiring gimped parts to somehow make a weaker console 4 years later? Is this a hybrid? How would that even work?
Or is this just another "The sky is falling, Nintendooomed" scenario?
I'm not sure how I would feel about an NX that's weaker than the Wii U because the scenario is so vague that I would question if I were dreaming or not if that actually happened.
Or is this just another "The sky is falling, Nintendooomed" scenario?
I'm not sure how I would feel about an NX that's weaker than the Wii U because the scenario is so vague that I would question if I were dreaming or not if that actually happened.
Gonna go for broke, WiiU + 2 Squid ductaped together.
That said, I think we have the "intentionally weak" quip to keep us out of "near WiiU" territory, since I'm taking that to mean no powerdraw limits in the 40-50W range, lol.
Fourth Storm
Member
Haha, so now the squids have replaced the Pikmin found in previous Nintendo hardwares?
I really don't know how to take that "not intentionally weak" comment. Maybe it wasn't their goal to make it underpowered, but it still turned out that way? I'm still betting on it being about half an Xbone.
Nintendo Seal of Squid. Now your playing with ink.
I took it to as attempt to address (and alleviate) the concerns/harrowing that their engineers got over the WiiU, which was intentionally weak for the power considerations or otherwise. But, from Iwata's mouth, we know he's looking at the idea of different form factors for regions. Its a smart approach for him to take when you consider the state of home consoles in Japan, so trying to make "the attractive low power family console" is a moot idea at this point, there's no market for it whether it be power hungry or not. I say this, especially, since the statement is reactionary in the sense of "leave me alone, I can't tell you more but X".
I like to predict non-entities. HBM, 8 Jaguars scotch-taped (double sided) together, and a 980Ti, shipped inside a giant Squid amiibo.
I think seeing something in the lower ranges of the X1 but with better RAM allocations.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Jesus.
soulassssns
Banned
Why would it be weaker in the 1st place?
The Spoony Hou
Member
It's not a successor to the Wii U nor the 3DS, so i wouldn't care. I'll buy it if it has good games.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I'd laugh and be like "typical stupid Nintendo wtf are they doing"
Then id probably buy one
Then id probably buy one
Those are both ancillary components. No Nintendo system, even the original Wii, has ever taken a step BACKWARDS in overall perceived "strength". Worst case scenario, the next system will take a step laterally, not backward.
CaviarMeths
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Honestly, I've grown so damn weary from the whole power race. At this point, all I want is all of Nintendo's first party games on their next handheld, as well as support from all the Japanese 3rd parties.
Like folding the Wii U, 3DS, and Vita libraries into a single appropriately next gen portable device.
Like folding the Wii U, 3DS, and Vita libraries into a single appropriately next gen portable device.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Ding, ding, and ding!
I think they'll match the power of Wii U, but it's selling point will be price and the one and only place to play all of Nintendo's games. A single device will the full weight of Nintendo's studios behind it would be a force to be reckoned with, especially at a less than $300 price point with the ability to get cheaper fast.
I need to save this quote for the August "Hey guys, speculate some more on the NX" thread
This. Nintendo's handhelds are the best way to play Nintendo's games as their home consoles have been shit for a long time now. If the NX as a home console was weaker than the Wii U then I would be unaffected as I don't even consider Nintendo consoles nowadays.
If the gamepad wasn't a thing, I doubt there would be as much trouble with the Wii U.
I think most people just want a cheap way to play their Nintendo games. The DS, Wii, and 3DS prove it.
The price will definitely make or break em.
Doubt they'll go with weaker hardware than Wii U for practical reasons, I mean they're gonna reboot their services on the NX, and I think the VC is included, they won't benefit from using weaker hardware.
Then it needs to be dirt cheap, because that means they are making a console akin to the level of a PS3/360.
I feel like Nintendo at this point has two options...
A. Release a low powered cheap console, for Nintendo fans to play their games on. Maybe have some sort of gimmick to it like the Wii U did if the price won't be crazy, and just ride out Nintendo nostalgia. Don't spend more money on the console trying to cater to 3rd parties if the console won't be as powerful or competitive to the PS4/XBO.
B. Release a high powered console that isn't a headache for developers to port to, and try to compete with Microsoft and Sony. Avoid gimmicks that would interfere with 3rd parties developing on the console.
The way I see it, I bet its Option A. I seriously doubt Nintendo would go route B, just looking historically how they've made their platforms since the N64. I hope they don't do some hybrid between these two...its either you fully support 3rd parties or you don't! Anywhere in between like the Wii U and it will look very bleak for the future of Nintendo.
OR there is the Option C, which is they hit a gold mine again like with the Wii and some sort of gimmick they are trying....but if that's what they are betting on, that's risky.
Yeah if they just got rid of the gamepad, and brought the price down to like $100-200, selling as a dedicated Nintendo machine...I'd probably have a Wii U right now.
I feel like Nintendo at this point has two options...
A. Release a low powered cheap console, for Nintendo fans to play their games on. Maybe have some sort of gimmick to it like the Wii U did if the price won't be crazy, and just ride out Nintendo nostalgia. Don't spend more money on the console trying to cater to 3rd parties if the console won't be as powerful or competitive to the PS4/XBO.
B. Release a high powered console that isn't a headache for developers to port to, and try to compete with Microsoft and Sony. Avoid gimmicks that would interfere with 3rd parties developing on the console.
The way I see it, I bet its Option A. I seriously doubt Nintendo would go route B, just looking historically how they've made their platforms since the N64. I hope they don't do some hybrid between these two...its either you fully support 3rd parties or you don't! Anywhere in between like the Wii U and it will look very bleak for the future of Nintendo.
OR there is the Option C, which is they hit a gold mine again like with the Wii and some sort of gimmick they are trying....but if that's what they are betting on, that's risky.
Yeah if they just got rid of the gamepad, and brought the price down to like $100-200, selling as a dedicated Nintendo machine...I'd probably have a Wii U right now.
good god
Zombie James
Banned
Weaker than a Wii U? Fuck, if it's weaker than an Xbone it's DOA. Enough with the intentional gimping, Nintendo.
I think the "gimmick" this time around will be the fact that most, if not, all your games are playable on the handheld and console. Just one userbase. I like that idea a lot because that means that there will be less software droughts (a problem Iwata mentioned wanting to fix with the next generation), and we won't be forced to buy two separate machines to play all the Nintendo content we want.
If they can hammer those points in the initial pitch to consumers and nail that price point, specs won't matter.
Rhazer Fusion
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How would you feel if the NX is weaker than the Wii U?
How is this different than the vita/tv though as a gimmick? This type of functionality already exists and hasn't exactly worked out to well for Sony. I mean I certainly get that Sony botched making any appeal to consumers with the launch of the PSTV but it just seems like the kind of functionality people aren't especially interested in and of itself.
People always say the reason JRPGS dropped in number so much was because of how much they cost to make now
You know what, I've been done with Nintendo since the SNES, but if the Wii U was suddenly flooded with SNES/PSX quality jrpgs, I'd buy one almost instantly. I want more jrpgs so bad, and they don't have to be realistic HD.
Okay, that locks up the people who were going to buy it anyway. I still don't see the mainstream appeal or how it gets Nintendo any marketshare.
If NX is weaker than WiiU, I could see the Vita getting a couple NX ports that wouldn't have been developed otherwise.
I have to laugh that this even needs to be confirmed.
It could just mean they are making it weak but not on purpose.