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Steverulez · Jan 28, 2016

How does their cash levels compare to other publishers? I've always been a fan of "cash is king" and having $2.2bn (in cash/cash equivalents) seems like a very nice number for them and they are doing very well.

Obviously there is more to it than that but that was the figure I looked straight for in their financials

Skellig Gra · Jan 28, 2016

Boke1879 said:
Some people in this thread just can't accept the fact that people do like this version of Battlefront. The content is fine and you're getting free content and season passes.

People just want better from their favorite franchise. Not an endless string of barebones efforts.

InsaneTiger · Jan 28, 2016

Boke1879 said:
Some people in this thread just can't accept the fact that people do like this version of Battlefront. The content is fine and you're getting free content and season passes.

You're right people do like it but that doesn't mean it's still not lacking what it's predecessors had mainly more varied content.

Boke1879 · Jan 28, 2016

Hollywood Duo said:
People just want better from their favorite franchise. Not an endless string of barebones efforts.

The game is fine. It doesn't need to emulate the structure of anything else. The content is there. Plenty of games modes. The gameplay being simple isn't a bad thing. People continue to play the game and people are excited for the upcoming content.

The issue is that some people just can't help themselves into bashing the game when it's brought up. Not your cup of tea? Fine. But what some may call "horribly mediocre" is just fine for many others.

FunkyPajamas · Jan 28, 2016

Why only western? Who is #1 world-wide? Ubisoft?

edit: oh, west i.e. not Japan/Asia I guess?

Boke1879 · Jan 28, 2016

InsaneTiger said:
You're right people do like it but that doesn't mean it's still not lacking what it's predecessors had mainly more varied content.

This game didn't bill itself on being Battlefront 3. No one has to like the game it's just old to see people bashing this game every time a thread pops up instead of discussing the topic.

Glad to see the game doing better than expected though. Many thought it wouldn't sell half this before March 31st.

HowZatOZ · Jan 28, 2016

Nirolak said:
Well, stores would have to order them, and they'd lose millions upon millions of dollars in licensing fees and return fees.

DeepEnigma said:
That is not how business works. Goodness.

henhowc said:
supply and demand buddy. companies don't just ship out copies of games that retailers didnt actually order and retailers don't order extra copies of games that aren't selling lol

Haha I get that it'd be silly to ship out 13 million games without knowing they'd sell, just their PR talk is sometimes confusing. What happened to just saying "we sold x million copies to gamers, the end."

RoKKeR · Jan 28, 2016

Never doubt Star Wars, damn. Impressive.

Kysen · Jan 28, 2016

Sony bought a huge chunk of those SWBF copies.

Rymuth · Jan 28, 2016

Crono27 said:
with that amount of people

Currently online players

PC: 7,837 (24h peak: 9,442)

XBOXONE: 37,229 (24h peak: 44,420)

PS4: 65,905 (24h peak: 66,261)

Total: 110,971
yea.....

People really need to drop this argument...

Kill3r7 · Jan 28, 2016

Crono27 said:
with that amount of people

Currently online players

PC: 7,837 (24h peak: 9,442)

XBOXONE: 37,229 (24h peak: 44,420)

PS4: 65,905 (24h peak: 66,261)

Total: 110,971
yea.....

Who cares? Those people already paid for the game. It is not as though EA gets a retention bonus. I guess you could argue it will impact their bottom line with respect to potential DLC sales but I doubt they care.

Nirolak · Jan 28, 2016

FunkyPajamas said:
Why only western? Who is #1 world-wide? Ubisoft?

edit: oh, west i.e. not Japan/Asia I guess?

I imagine they want to exclude companies like Tencent in China as opposed to Japanese publishers.

SmoothRunningGun · Jan 28, 2016

They can sell a billion copies. It's still crap.

MatrixMan.EXE · Jan 28, 2016

EA gonna eat with BF5 and ME:A this year.

Forerunner · Jan 28, 2016

I never had any doubts that it wouldn't put up huge numbers. It released when Star Wars hype was in full swing. That being said, it's a fun game and I still play it. If it would have released with as much content as the older titles, it would have been GOAT. I am looking forward to the DLC and also what they plan for the second one.

Saty · Jan 28, 2016

The return of Need for Speed drew more than twice as many monthly active players in Q3 than the previous game.

bomba. wonder if they'll elaborate on it on the call. Or if callers will bother asking about it.

Loris146 · Jan 28, 2016

Rösti;193587317 said:
The music in the webcast has started. I will listen to it mainly to hear if they will share some new comments on NX. They replied to a question about NX in the Q2 FY2016 Earnings Conference Call:

Source: http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ERTS/1414455235x0x857661/6430018A-2AEA-4081-87D3-69D737B9FF35/EA_Q2_FY16_Transcript.pdf

And as it relates to Nintendo, we've had a tremendous relationship with them over the years. And we will evaluate any and all opportunities with
them, in the same way we do all platform opportunities.

Love this part lol

Nirolak · Jan 28, 2016

HowZatOZ said:
Haha I get that it'd be silly to ship out 13 million games without knowing they'd sell, just their PR talk is sometimes confusing. What happened to just saying "we sold x million copies to gamers, the end."

Well, two main concerns:

1.) They don't always know how many copies get sold through versus how many are still in stock at stores.
2.) They get paid based on the copies they sell to the retailer instead of copies sold to consumers.

For a console vendor, sold-through is a more relevant number because that's how many customers are actually out there to buy software, which is what their partners are curious about.

For EA, sell-through is only the best number when talking about potential DLC customers.

It is possible to hide channel stock with a shipment number, yes, but it is what we get for like 90% of reported game sales.

Rösti · Jan 28, 2016

The conference call has started.

KJRS_1993 · Jan 28, 2016

I hope the fact that this game is doing so well really, 'really' irritates a certain bunch of people.

The gameplay is too simple for me personally, but it's very impressive to witness. I'm glad it's doing well.

Squire · Jan 28, 2016

Phamit said:
EA is so delusional

Math doesn't lie.

Gunslinger · Jan 28, 2016

Has the concurrent numbers have been linked yet to prove these numbers wrong? Lmaooooooo. Some of these haters/critics are desperate to see this game fail. Almost at the level of destiny. Imo of course.

Nirolak · Jan 28, 2016

Gunslinger said:
Has the concurrent numbers have been linked yet to prove these numbers wrong? Lmaooooooo. Some of these haters/critics are desperate to see this game fail. Almost at the level of destiny. Imo of course.

The Watch_Dogs threads were also like this.

viHuGi · Jan 28, 2016

13m? That is pretty huge!

Sure it is not Black Ops 3 wich should be around 30m since US alone was what? 10m?

Jesus those Franchises are massive.

Nirolak · Jan 28, 2016

viHuGi said:
13m? That is pretty huge!

Sure it is not Black Ops 3 wich should be around 30m since US alone was what? 10m?

Jesus those Franchises are massive.

Call of Duty does a bit closer to 20-25 million these days, but yes.

Tenebrous · Jan 28, 2016

Enter the Dragon Punch said:
that's no bomba
that's a space station

also #1 publisher in west is a huge achievement over acti and 2k

Massive achievement, but it's not one I expect them to emulate in 2016 (Overwatch & Legion will make bank).

Nirolak · Jan 28, 2016

Tenebrous said:
Massive achievement, but it's not one I expect them to emulate in 2016.

I should note it's #1 publisher on PS4/XB1 now that I look again.

So the duel will be Infinity Ward CoD/Destiny 2 with a guest appearance by Overwatch vs. Battlefield 5/FIFA/Madden with a guest appearance by Mass Effect 4.

Abinash117 · Jan 28, 2016

Venom Fox said:
The one fucking time Pachter was right... God, he's gonna get his own TV show now isn't he

Was that sold through? Because the EA announced sold in which is shipment to stores. So Patcher is wrong like always.

Also why are people posting player numbers when it is about shipments? We really don't fully know how much it was sold to consumers for all we know EA could have just shipped out a ton of units or it might be close to 12 million sold through by now. Although, it was EA would have said so,

Tenebrous · Jan 28, 2016

Nirolak said:
I should note it's #1 publisher on PS4/XB1 now that I look again.

So the duel will be Infinity Ward CoD/Destiny 2 vs. Battlefield 5/FIFA/Madden with a guest appearance by Mass Effect 4.

Looks like they'll both be printing money again this year. I wonder how much Overwatch will do for ActiBlizz on the console side of things, because looking at the games you've listed, I reckon Overwatch could be the one to potentially give them the edge.

Nirolak · Jan 28, 2016

Tenebrous said:
Looks like they'll both be printing money again this year. I wonder how much Overwatch will do for ActiBlizz on the console side of things, because looking at the games you've listed, I reckon Overwatch could be the one to potentially give them the edge.

Whoops, forgot to list that one. Fixed.

Kolx · Jan 28, 2016

HowZatOZ said:
Haha I get that it'd be silly to ship out 13 million games without knowing they'd sell, just their PR talk is sometimes confusing. What happened to just saying "we sold x million copies to gamers, the end."

It's definitely better if it was sold to consumers instead of just stores since that means the extra demand will add to the 13 millions copies instead of consuming what is left of these 13 millions in store, but from pure revenue respective it's HUGE and still very impressive.

stryke · Jan 28, 2016

Crono27 said:
with that amount of people

Currently online players

PC: 7,837 (24h peak: 9,442)

XBOXONE: 37,229 (24h peak: 44,420)

PS4: 65,905 (24h peak: 66,261)

Total: 110,971
yea.....

etta said:
How the hell do you sell 13 M but have only 110 K concurrent?
When Call of Dutys sell 15-20 M, they have 2-3 M concurrent, or at least that's what I remember from Modern Warfare 2 launch days.
I am really confused.

Like clockwork.

Xone9 · Jan 28, 2016

Their stock is tanking in after hurs...

http://stocktwits.com/symbol/EA

benny_a · Jan 28, 2016

I was interested in December about the split and how much gifts and the bundle would influence this so I tracked it for ~5 weeks after launch.

Of course this only accounts for amount of players online simultaneously which is not a perfect match but the general breakdown should be relatively true.

Edit: As a comment, there wasn't just a different amount of player decay.
There also was growth where the PS4 and Xbox One average online player end of December numbers trump the launch weekend numbers. I just don't have time to make a succinct graph.

RedAssedApe · Jan 28, 2016

1 million PS4 SWBF bundles? Wonder how many were the Vader LE

AstroNut325 · Jan 28, 2016

Good to see Battlefront succeeded.

gundamkyoukai · Jan 28, 2016

And some people thought it would not even get to that number.
Number underestimate the force along with a good bundle .

KillerMan91 · Jan 28, 2016

Crono27 said:
with that amount of people

Currently online players

PC: 7,837 (24h peak: 9,442)

XBOXONE: 37,229 (24h peak: 44,420)

PS4: 65,905 (24h peak: 66,261)

Total: 110,971
yea.....

This post is from the thread when BF3 shipped 12 million and sold trough was 8 million (game went to ship over 20 million):

big_z said:
8 million sold yet less than 130k playing online across all platforms. Wtf!

I picked up the pc version during the black Friday sale. Returned the 360 version but might buy it again to play with a friend.... I dunno what to do.

Concurrent player stats tell jack shit about the sales of the game.

RedAssedApe · Jan 28, 2016

KillerMan91 said:
This post is from the thread when BF3 shipped 12 million and sold trough 8 million (game went to ship over 20 million):

Concurrent player stats tell jack shit about the sales of the game.

is it a repost? cuz that post is on the first page of this thread heh

Gunslinger · Jan 28, 2016

KillerMan91 said:
This post is from the thread when BF3 shipped 12 million and sold trough 8 million (game went to ship over 20 million):

Concurrent player stats tell jack shit about the sales of the game.

Was waiting for a post like this lmaooooooo....

Concurrent players != amount sold.

This was a reply to big_z

darscot · Jan 28, 2016

benny_a said:
I was interested in December about the split and how much gifts and the bundle would influence this so I tracked it for ~5 weeks after launch.

Of course this only accounts for amount of players online simultaneously which is not a perfect match but the general breakdown should be relatively true.

Thanks for the info, this looks at what I expected, strong retention on console but a little fall off on PC. That makes sense to me as the game is a little "casual" for the PC market and its not going to have the same retention of a military shooter.

KillerMan91 · Jan 28, 2016

henhowc said:
is it a repost? cuz that post is on the first page of this thread heh

I think you misunderstood my post. I quoted Crono27 from the first page and then quoted a old post from old BF3 thread that back then also wondered how game with so huge sales can have that low concurrent player stats. End result is that concurrent player stats don't usually tell anything about the sales of the game

Saty · Jan 28, 2016

Mirror's Edge will be the only new core title release in Q1 FY17.

Markitron · Jan 28, 2016

To think that back in Sep/Oct there were people on GAF that thought 5m would be a stretch.

Mpl90 · Jan 28, 2016

If I've heard correctly, digital sales for retail releases is around 20 - 30%+; lower in Europe due to retailers being loss leaders and bringing more customers; also, Battlefront is slightly lower than the average due to the gift-deal.

Saty · Jan 28, 2016

Estimate 55M userbase for PS4\XB1 at end of 2015. Almost 50% increase gen-over-gen.

RedAssedApe · Jan 28, 2016

KillerMan91 said:
I think you misunderstood my post. I quoted Crono27 from the first page and then quoted a old post from old BF3 thread that back then also wondered how game with so huge sales can have that low concurrent player stats. End result is that concurrent player stats don't usually tell anything about the sales of the game

ah yeah i misread haha

Another48Hours · Jan 28, 2016

MAPS vs. MAUS? Which is more statistically awesome?

darkinstinct · Jan 28, 2016

So 90 % of those 13 million copies are sold-in digitally, right?

AC_Frog · Jan 28, 2016

#1 in the Western World and PS4/XB1 only.

Fun metric when you exclude two of your main competition's biggest money makers (WoW and Hearthstone)

Data is super interesting to me in how companies choose to highlight themselves.

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