It is something like $33 to $55 USD depending on your options.
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It is something like $33 to $55 USD depending on your options.
Ordered one. Anyone have recommendations on the best controllers to go for? I've only got one surviving original controller, and I want something that's as close to the originals as possible (so no funky designs nor dogbones).
Looks like there's a number of third-party options out there, but no clue which one to pick.
Looks like there's a number of third-party options out there, but no clue which one to pick.
Harlock
Member
That was something rumored for the early projects of RetroVGS, when things looked good, right?
Anyway, a hardware programmed to mimic another hardware is better than a good software emulator running in a fast chip, for NES games?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
So, is there a write-up somewhere on how this works? Doesn't use NES hardware, but isn't emulation... Am I missing something? How are they achieving 100% accuracy, and how feasible is this for other systems?
Marty Chinn
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The gist of it is software emulating a chip isn't as good as the actual chip because it's trying to map calls to the hardware it's talking to. What they're doing here is taking a programable chip that will kind of clone itself to being like the original chip and that is the main processor. Nothing to map to. I'm trying to simplify the explanation a bit.
Maybe another way to think of software emulator as having a translator/interpretor trying to communicate what someone else is saying to you in another language where as what this is doing is if you skipped the translator and decided to go learn the language yourself. You'll have a higher amount of accuracy in the understanding of what's being said.
NOLA_Gaffer
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I've heard good things about the "N85" controller.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AC3Z6LW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Crazymoogle
Member
Yep, speed is fine. It's still hardware, just programmed to behave like the exact model of 6502 used. If you used a "modern" 6502 the quirks might not be the same, and the FPGA also offers the flexibility to add features that weren't on the original hardware.
Those pics in the OP look way nicer standing still than in motion:
because LCD blur/slow camera shutter speed is a fault of the console, right? dude.
hell, I'd get equivalent motion blur taking a photo from a framemeister
Like the hat?
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yep, I get that part -- I guess I'm kinda interested in the details of how they're actually achieving that. I think it's really fucking cool that they've made an NES without an NES and eschewed the issues with software emulation in the process.
Of course you can. Even if you spend hundreds on an NES (or framemeister) to use on a HDTV is still going to look like an NES on a HDTV. People are talking about scaliness and stuff which is ok when it's not moving, but it still looks almost as bad as the original hardware in motion on a HDTV.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well I'd be interested but 720p stopped me when my Famicom through my framemeister can do 1080p.
Would be interested in a 1080 revision should that ever pop up.
Would be interested in a 1080 revision should that ever pop up.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Like shit it's affordable. It's a niche luxury item that fits the exact market it's in by a smaller manufacturer that wouldn't need all that much to make back the development and manufacturing of this product. The market still is not viable enough for a large company to go through this sort of thing despite the recent growth.
what
I'm literally at a loss at what you're trying to say. of course NES games will look like NES games. And that type of motion blur will be exactly the same on any SNES, Mega Drive or Saturn game too.
but you know what? our eyes are not phone cameras.
Talladega Knight
Member
Is there any benefit to purchasing one of these rather than spending the $85 or so to hdmi mod my original nes?
Polioliolio
Member
Order placed!
I'm excited. Can't wait to bring over my games in a lunch box to my friends' houses just like 25 years ago!
Woo woo!
I'm excited. Can't wait to bring over my games in a lunch box to my friends' houses just like 25 years ago!
Woo woo!
El Pescado
Member
There is an option to remove sprite flicker.
Marty Chinn
Member
Crap, I didn't factor in the controller aspect. So this doesn't come with a controller?
No controller. But I have plenty of originals anyway.
He's working on a wireless one, but that'll come much later.
Beer Monkey
Member
The scene is going to burst wide open over the next couple of years.
One thing I'm sure we'll see is a clone system that outputs 1080p, complete with 960p windowboxed option for artifact-free scaling.
Yeah. This is affordable when compared to other options in this niche market, but not for the masses. You have people on this forum saying stuff like, and I'm paraphrasing here, "let me know when (insert Wii U or Xbox One) hits $99." This bad boy would need to be like $50-$75 max to interest the masses I think.
I guess the main benefit is that it's an all-in-one device that doesn't require lots of adapters (four score, Famicom functionality).
Where do you get an HDMI mod for 85$? Think closer to 185$. And then we're hitting the price of the AVS. I just bought one, despite owning 2 RGB modded Famicom units. Let's see how this compares to the Framemeister.
Talladega Knight
Member
Oh is it that much? I apologize, I thought I'd read somewhere the cost was $85 for an HDMI NES mod. AVS is the way to go for me then.
Edit: I see why I assumed wrong. It was $85 for just the installation of the HDMI kit. The HDMI kit itself is $120 or so.
It does. It only needs to stay open when using famicom carts since they sit upright.
NOLA_Gaffer
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You could always pick up 8Bitdo's "Retro Receiver" that allows you to use Bluetooth controllers with the NES.
Kobun Heat
Member
They're all crappy. Just buy an original or two now before the price goes up.
dcx4610
Member
People not liking the lid design, it's large because it has to fit the FDS RAM cart. Bunnyboy is going for 100% compatibility.
This is years in the making and he's thought of and thrown everything at this system to ensure it works identical to the real thing. It's a passion project.
This is years in the making and he's thought of and thrown everything at this system to ensure it works identical to the real thing. It's a passion project.
Beer Monkey
Member
I really need to hack a couple of my many cheap SNES controllers for NES usage someday.
Crazymoogle
Member
That's not even coming with it? Wow. Yeah, 8bitdo seems like the best option for many people. (Or find an OG dogbone...)
WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING!!!
I have a order for a Hi-Def NES kit, ordered the NES Mini last month, now have pre-ordered this and i already have an NESRGB (AV Famicom & Frontloader NTSC).....i need to have a word with myself!!!
Shame they weren't able to sort out distribution from somewhere in Europe to help with shipping costs!
I have a order for a Hi-Def NES kit, ordered the NES Mini last month, now have pre-ordered this and i already have an NESRGB (AV Famicom & Frontloader NTSC).....i need to have a word with myself!!!
Shame they weren't able to sort out distribution from somewhere in Europe to help with shipping costs!
Dang man. That's rough. Well here let me help you out. I'll take that RGB Famicom off your hands to lighten the load
But for reals, I know how that goes lol.
sixteen-bit
Member
Looking forward to impressions
CrashPrime
Member
Mike Kennedy should've been in touch with these FPGA programmers instead of Sean "Mr. Lee" Robinson. It's like v1 of what the Coleco Chameleon wanted to be.
As a secondary optionsince I get weirded out about using controllers that other people have touched a lotdoes anyone think it might be possible to re-wire one of the new controllers Nintendo is releasing for the NES Mini to work as a standard NES controller? Or would a Wii-plug-to-NES-plug be possible perhaps?
mugenmidget
Neo Member
Buy a couple of these (mentioned earlier, the 8Bitdo Retro Receivers), then you'll be able to use them: http://www.play-asia.com/retro-receiver-for-nes/13/70a2f7
Lynd7
Member
So the original processor part is still being made? So someone could create a new NES from identical parts? I thought they didn't make them anymore.
NoFaceNico
Member
For those of you wanting controllers that feel like the originals, there's a company based out of Arizona called GamerzTek and they make a reproduction that is 99% identical.
They've made two versions and you're going to want the more recent one. You'll know it's the right one if it actually says "GamerzTek" where "Nintendo" should be instead of nothing at all.
But you can buy the controllers alone: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NEW-CLASSIC-NINTENDO-NES-CONTROLLERS-GAMERZ-TEK-/201638194602?hash=item2ef292adaa:g:7WIAAOSwCfdXogIN
They've made two versions and you're going to want the more recent one. You'll know it's the right one if it actually says "GamerzTek" where "Nintendo" should be instead of nothing at all.
I know this because I tested out their clone console. The video is cued up here: https://youtu.be/ahmv6tnRI0U?t=2m6s
But you can buy the controllers alone: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NEW-CLASSIC-NINTENDO-NES-CONTROLLERS-GAMERZ-TEK-/201638194602?hash=item2ef292adaa:g:7WIAAOSwCfdXogIN
Yeah, I did see that, but I have 0.0% interest in using wireless and/or non-standard controllers for this.
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