lucebuce12
Member
What does the balance of the DLC characters necessarily have to do with the value of the season pass? Especially since the DLC characters are almost guaranteed to get some buffs next year.
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Street Fighter V |OTV| BUFF MY MAIN & NERF THE CHARACTER I JUST LOST TO
- Thread starter Garrett Hawke
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What does the balance of the DLC characters necessarily have to do with the value of the season pass? Especially since the DLC characters are almost guaranteed to get some buffs next year.
Ggs, I wish I was as consistent as you. I just get a bunch of lucky guesses
I think its more me not being able to block haha. You were 100% on those slides.
lucebuce12
Member
Twitch got tired of losing money on turbos.
SolarPowered
Member
I don't blame people who decide to skip the pass if characters they were looking forward to using are mediocre in the eyes of many. I know that is why I didn't bother with it. I was looking forward to Alex most, but Ibuki could have gotten use out of me and most stronger players than I think SHE is worse than him. Not gonna hold my breath on Urien being an exception to the rule. There is a middle ground between weak and AE Yun. Capcom can figure out what that is in season 2 for more than just one or two DLC characters in a season
Also, no one is buying characters because they're getting buffs in a year lmao. Everyone buys or doesn't buy based on what they see day 1 or shortly after. Buying with expectations that they'll be stronger in a year is just as dumb as not buying because of perceived weaknesses (yeah, I admit this is dumb reasoning).
Platinum Mad
Banned
Damn. Was thinking about getting all the stages last night but decided not to and now I lost all my FM.
Rip 700+K
How can they check who used 1 round but can't put in a proper rage quit system?
ggs capcpom.
Rip 700+K
How can they check who used 1 round but can't put in a proper rage quit system?
ggs capcpom.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Nemesis121
Member
1 round survival
You act like we were doing something horrible that ruin your experience of the game, amibots ruin games, wall hacks ruin the game, border less shit ruin SFV, the cheap PS4 players are just fucking jealous they couldn't cheat too, so now many of you around the net are saying good those fuckers got punish, when you know you wanted to cheat and steal that FM for shitty season one characters...
You act like we were doing something horrible that ruin your experience of the game, amibots ruin games, wall hacks ruin the game, border less shit ruin SFV, the cheap PS4 players are just fucking jealous they couldn't cheat too, so now many of you around the net are saying good those fuckers got punish, when you know you wanted to cheat and steal that FM for shitty season one characters...
Haha, stop it with that garbage, I'm on PC and nah, didn't do it. You didn't ruin anything for me.
Ultimately it's Capcom's fault, but it kind of sucks that people are abusing this pretty cool system to unlock pay DLC through just playing the game.
ColonialHawk
Member
Nah you weren't ruining other people's experience, but you were cheating the system and gaining FM by means of external resources which Im sure is against their EULA.
Maybe you did it for the colors, but you also got large amounts of FM which Im sure you spent on something.
Maybe you did it for the colors, but you also got large amounts of FM which Im sure you spent on something.
CountBlack
Member
oh the same guy that's won tons of tournies offline in his career?
you should MM him offline then
That laura to laura player love tho haha
The PS4 players could and did cheat. That's probably what got Capcom's attention.
It looks like if you cheated survival and turned around to buy, say, every Story costume in the game you essentially for off easy. People are reporting keeping everything they bought with the ill-gotten FM. You only really lost something if you didn't spend the FM.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I have zero problem with people cheating the system, because you're right, it doesn't affect me. I also have zero problem with Capcom responding to it, and I'll happily laugh at anyone who gets indignant about it.
I don't really get how someone can honestly call him shit he's obviously a very good player. To the point of him having a breakthrough I dunno he literally was making it seem like he was gonna drop the game the other day on Facebook until his mood changed again recently. But I kinda get the vibe his interest is wavering well... until just recently when he ended up winning the tourney thing.
sixteen-bit
Member
There's a mod for that.
CountBlack
Member
The hate is so overblown for no reason. Tons of people just dog piling because a few top players don't like him so they don't like him either lol it's so corny
I think it's Capcom's fault for ultimately creating a terribly unfun mode and then defending it like it's what players should strive to beat before competing against other players online. When your WORLD CHAMPION (Infiltration) basically says 'yeah, just let us buy the colors' you know the mode is fucking awful. If your WORLD CHAMPION has problems with the mode, it shows how tone deaf you are as a company when it comes to making modes for fighting games.
If the mode wasn't awful, I doubt it'd have escalated to the point it ultimately did.
If the mode wasn't awful, I doubt it'd have escalated to the point it ultimately did.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
It also looks awful.
Sean wishes he had 1/100th of the swag BP does.
BP was the MVP.
Yeah?
I bought the game twice. Bought the season pass twice. Will be getting colors with season pass starting next month.
It was never about fight money. It was about my time. I'd gladly spend money to buy colors and stages, but they didn't give me the option.
I'm not mad at Capcom for doing this, though. Makes sense to me.
Console peasants
Some of you guys are sounding pretty pathetic with the condescending tone and moral superiority thing, especially considering I never heard anyone complain before now.
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Counterpoint: If people can get something for free with little effort, they will. Fight Money has a dollar value and if there is a tool out there that gets it fast, people will use it even if the mode they are bypassing is fun.
If the mode wasn't awful, people wouldn't have gone searching for it. The amount of people that used it would've been a lot smaller than it ended up being (which is probably like...95% of all PC players, lol)
Hell, that PS4 exploit is how Tournaments got colors unlocked for Streams, and that sounds more mind-bendy to me.
As I've always said, I put the blame on Fight Money, because it affected every core aspect of the game's design. It removed the fun from those modes by putting so much FM behind an insane grind.
SolarPowered
Member
I honestly don't get the disconnect because SFV was the first fighter where I've been able to complete all the combo trials. All of a sudden hard survival mode turns into a wall that even gold level players like me gave up on. What a shitty mode.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
You are seriously overestimating how many pc players cheated.
Just quoting from earlier this month when I got the pc version
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Cheaters who think every player is on their moral level to justify their act are the most hilarious bunch anyway.
They're still lucky Capcom didn't do this :
My Worst Timeline Fear for this is they're working on this next then priority shifts to working on fixes and such because Capcpom.
PSN hack. It's Capcpom.
Spuck-uk
Banned
All of the tournament going folk I know playing on PC cheated.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Great, those people you know isn't even .1% of the pc userbase.
CrackpotDesert
Banned
How do I play Necalli?
lucebuce12
Member
From what I've learned in this thread, keep spamming st.lp. The enemy will keep jumping at you and you'll safely be AAing it.
Repeat until you're Platinum.
EDIT: Or what mbpm1 said, that kinda works too.
Neutral is a mix between st. hk, v-skill, things buffered into stomp, occasional sweeps, and dash up pressure
AA with st. jab, dp, and cr. hp
mk stomp gives enough frame advantage to link cr. mp into stuff after
On knockdown presure with any combination of meaty st lk, st. mk, cr. mk, and tick or meaty command grabs
CrackpotDesert
Banned
How much does his game change when he's in V Trigger?
He's faster in walkspeed and farther in dashes IIRC, and his moves have more frame advantage allowing him to pressure harder. For more details you'd have to ask a dedicated Devourer.
lucebuce12
Member
He gains access to more damaging combos, he's generally faster in both walkspeed and dash speed, pretty much all his moves become better and his v-skill becomes much more difficult to punish.
It doesn't cover any of his weaknesses so to speak, but it just makes his tools better. For specifics, hopefully some Necalli mains can shed some light.
Just remember that you can combo off a st.lp xx V-trigger. He's perhaps the only character that can confirm into V-Trigger off a non-counter hit light.
I think Ryu may be able to do that too. And Chun
lucebuce12
Member
I feel like we would've seen top players use that if that was the case, and there would probably also be like a million posts all over the place complaining about how broken those characters are that they can do that shit.