Is there a link with instructions? Is it easy to do or is there a potential risk?
Also what's HLG?
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LG promises HDR gaming input lag patch for 2016 OLED sets
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Is there a link with instructions? Is it easy to do or is there a potential risk?
Also what's HLG?
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
it's not super plug and play but it's possible. instructions are on AVS.
HLG is Hyper-Log-Gamma, which is HDR for broadcast (ie, cable / satellite) --- so basically TV show HDR.
I imagine it will but it'll just be slightly delayed. So far that's been the case with updates.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
This HLG firmware is the only firmware that they are working on or also one to at least fix the HDR game mode in terms of how dark/dimmed it is? Because the latter is sorely needed.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
the HLG firmware is what broke HDR game mode on the G/E/C series.
The B series hasn't been confirmed for HLG, though it's updates usually lag. It has a different SoC than the others
Shogun_of_Truth
Member
see. I also have this problem. I have a B6, and game mode has been why to dark since day one for me. I have just modified one of the other presents to be as close to game mode as possible, still would be nice it game mode was more usable though, since I'm sure the lag is worse on the other presents, even with all the crappy post processing turned off manually.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Goddamn it. Just my luck. Hopefully they still care about the B6 then.
So you're using HDR bright, vivid or standard? Yeah that's nowhere near close to the input lag of Game mode. But a tip I got on another forum is that up the game brightness and still use HDR Game mode. I read that someone upped the brightness to max in Horizon Zero Dawn and it looked a lot better. Or enable dynamic contrast would also help a lot.
But it would be best if LG simply fixes it. Because there are games out there that don't have a brightness option. Not a whole lot anymore these days probably but Fallout 4 was one of them. But I don't think it ever received a HDR patch right? Only 4K for pro I believe.
Tried to use LgDTVUpDater and followed the instructions, but I couldn't get it working. I get an error message during the step to run startHTTP.bat.
It says to replace 192.168.0.11 with my IP address. Am I supposed to replace all instances in the txt file that lists 192.168.0.11?
Maybe I should just wait for the hotfix.
It says to replace 192.168.0.11 with my IP address. Am I supposed to replace all instances in the txt file that lists 192.168.0.11?
Maybe I should just wait for the hotfix.
Yappadappadu
Member
Only the "snu.lge.com" one.
You need to replace it with the IP of your PC/notebook.
You need to replace it with the IP of your PC/notebook.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
I haven't upgraded so I can't help you downgrade, AVS folks might be able to.
Some Russian LG site apparently had an updated version of the firmware (5.30.10) but unclear if it's the fix and I don't think it works on US sets.
Folks still waiting on an updated firmware.
Yappadappadu
Member
Dunno, did you move the "LgDTVUpDater" directory to C:?
Looks like it can't find apache? I had some problems with some windows services that were blocking port 80. After disabling those I could run it and the whole downgrade process.
I installed it and it did nothing to help with the too dim HDR game mode, unfortunately. The wait continues.
If LG somehow thinks that this is how HDR game is supposed to be, then we're screwed.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
Phone reps have told people they are aware and it's on the bug list
It could be that something in Windows 10 is blocking it. What services did you disable?
I know that this thread is pretty much just a LG B/E/C6 tech support thread now, but I wanted to make sure that the firmware stuff (what the thread was originally about) is all over and done with, in Europe too. HDR game mode is great now, no screen tearing or 60hz judder or anything else I came across by googling "lg b6 hdr game mode", right?
I've been planning on entering the 4k era for a while now, and I finally went out and bought a new TV stand and a PS4 Pro, so now I just need a TV. And since I really kinda want an OLED TV but I'm not made of money, I've decided to go with the 55 inch B6 (OLED55B6V).
e: oh and is there a good calibration guide for gaming, netflix and occasional PC desktop use for B6? I've never owned a high-end TV before, just cheap full HD TVs which I just kind of.. Plugged in, quickly checked the settings and then never tried to calibrate again.
I've been planning on entering the 4k era for a while now, and I finally went out and bought a new TV stand and a PS4 Pro, so now I just need a TV. And since I really kinda want an OLED TV but I'm not made of money, I've decided to go with the 55 inch B6 (OLED55B6V).
e: oh and is there a good calibration guide for gaming, netflix and occasional PC desktop use for B6? I've never owned a high-end TV before, just cheap full HD TVs which I just kind of.. Plugged in, quickly checked the settings and then never tried to calibrate again.
Yappadappadu
Member
World Wide Web Publishing Service and some other stuff.
Follow these instructions to check yourself what services are blocking port 80 and how to disable them:
https://www.devside.net/wamp-server/opening-up-port-80-for-apache-to-use-on-windows
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
not like input lag really effects FFXV so just use a different picture mode
Yappadappadu
Member
The LG US twitter account as well recommends using dynamic contrast to those on the latest FW.
So I just started playing around with dynamic contrast set to medium. Not sure whether there are any drawbacks?
Will do some comparisons to an older FW with dynamic contrast off.
In game mode SDR it doesn't add any input lag, no idea about HDR though since I can't measure that with my input lag tester.
So I just started playing around with dynamic contrast set to medium. Not sure whether there are any drawbacks?
Will do some comparisons to an older FW with dynamic contrast off.
In game mode SDR it doesn't add any input lag, no idea about HDR though since I can't measure that with my input lag tester.
Thanks to this I managed to keep both of the .bat files open.
But even so, the LG says it can't connect after I switch the DNS server with my IP address. The instructions say "DNS IP", so I tried changing the IP address, then the DNS, and then both. Still nothing. What could I be doing wrong?
How awful is the image retention on these things? I'm eyeballing a C7 if I can find someone to buy my JS9000 but the rtings review has me super worried. Video games absolutely destroyed the last plasma I had (VT60). I know it's not as bad as plasma, but after quitting Destiny and still seeing remanents of the HUD 9 months later will drive anyone crazy.
I cannot stand the edge light bleed on this 65" JS during dark movies, which is why I want to get rid of it, but there's no way in hell I can go back to having to worry about IR or burn-in.
I cannot stand the edge light bleed on this 65" JS during dark movies, which is why I want to get rid of it, but there's no way in hell I can go back to having to worry about IR or burn-in.
NYR
Member
Not an issue worth sweating over.
Also, Zero light bleed on an OLED, it's a thing of beauty.
NYR
Member
Lag numbers look solid, you can't really beat these with much.
1080p @ 60Hz Show Help
: 21.3 ms
1080p With Interpolation Show Help
: 88.0 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode Show Help
: 46.4 ms
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 Show Help
: 21.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz Show Help
: 21.4 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 Show Help
: 21.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz + HDR Show Help
: 21.1 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + 8 bit HDR Show Help
: N/A
You sure its in game mode/you sure there isn't latency elsewhere in your line? I know when my SO was setting up the PS4 on the new C6 when it first came in, it defaulted to having motion interpolation on and that had HUGE input lag implications. Might be worth checking stuff like that too.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
you got something set up incorrectly then
Rocket786
Member
Holy shit at the HDR Game Mode now. I noticed my TV updated a week or so ago but I've been playing Zelda. Went back to Horizon last night and thought my TV had messed up. Tried to fix it for an hour by tinkering with settings on my TV and PS4.
I'm glad to see my TV isn't broken but LG screwed up HDR Game Mode with their latest update. It's been passable with Dynamic Contrast on high but it's bugging the crap out of me. What the hell LG. Did your firmware not go through a QA cycle before officially releasing it? I mean there isn't even HLG content available anywhere right now. Delay it and get your shit together! This better be fixed before Uncharted comes out.
I'm glad to see my TV isn't broken but LG screwed up HDR Game Mode with their latest update. It's been passable with Dynamic Contrast on high but it's bugging the crap out of me. What the hell LG. Did your firmware not go through a QA cycle before officially releasing it? I mean there isn't even HLG content available anywhere right now. Delay it and get your shit together! This better be fixed before Uncharted comes out.
The_Spaniard
Netmarble
I literally just bought Horizon the day before the update came out. Now I have to wait to play it. I hope they fix this soon.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
You got the B6?
If a game has a brightness slider which luckily most games do have you can fix it that way as well. Apparently it will look proper and similar to how HDR Game used to look.
Rocket786
Member
I have the E6. I mean it's fairly good with Dynamic Contrast on high but still. I want to make sure the colors are what is the intention of the developers. I don't want my TV dynamically trying to guess. LG needs to release a fix for this asap. Crossing my fingers that it's before Uncharted.
NYR
Member
Same. I will actually not play it if it isn't fixed.
angrywoodchuck
Member
Just turned off automatic updates. I have an LG E6 and my software version is 04.30.95 (I'm in the UK). Am I safe? :/ I did try checking for updates and nothing was available so I guess I have the most up to date version
04.30.95 is the firmware before the HLG was implemented. You are fine.
This is how it should look, right? And I would put that same IP address under DNS on my TV, correct?
Says it can't connect. I really want to downgrade this firmware. Or, if I have to, what's the setting that will get HDR looking like it did originally (increase brightness or the dynamic contrast)?
EmilioLargo
Member
I have a b6d and my current firmware is 4.31.12. Am I safe? The only newer fw available for me is 4.31.25.
Yappadappadu
Member
Only change the "DNS SERVER" entry to the IP of your PC/notebook.
Yes, you only need the first two lines:
This is how it should look, right? And I would put that same IP address under DNS on my TV, correct?
127.0.0.1 localhost
IP address of your PC/notebook snu.lge.com
You can put a # in front of the other lines.
"Dynamic Contrast" to medium/high, though on the "high" settings it feels like it burns away details.
So far only C6/E6/G6 owners got screwed over by a new FW that while introcuding HLG drastically dims the HDR game mode. The B6 hasn't gotten any HLG update yet.
moltonasty
Member
Is the new hdr game mode really that bad? I have a c6 and have been holding off on the latest update, but it's getting annoying constantly having to hit no when I turn it on, lol.
Nothing is blown out on the contrast side of things but the peaks aren't super intense. Color looks incredible though. Your milage may vary!
EDIT: I should say that you should also reset the HDR Game Mode picture settings to make sure they're at default. Color is set at some value higher than 50 but supposedly it tracks better in that mode. If you try to bring it down the picture will look extremely desaturated.
Like this?
Then I've got the two programs open, like so:
And here's how it looks on the TV settings:
Still not working.
Yappadappadu
Member
Yeah, all good, but is the IP address of your PC in the same 192.168.1 range as the TV?
Not like you really need to hide it anyways as it's only an internal local IP.
Not like you really need to hide it anyways as it's only an internal local IP.
Just being cautious, not sure what's safe to share these days when it comes to IPs.
So you're saying the IP portion of the TV might need to be changed? Does it have to match the IP address I would type to open up my router settings in my browser?
moltonasty
Member
Interesting, I haven't heard much about the benefits of the new FW. So would you say it's worth updating or better to stick with the last FW?