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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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ITT we have people on both sides championing their developer of choice while simultaneously trying to make the other one look bad, when it's quite clear that we've been shafted and mislead by both (but only to a certain small extent - GT5 and Forza 3 are still great games and in motion they look great, too).
Fallout-NL
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Wazzim said:
Yes, Forza 3 is still the game to beat when it comes to the actual driving.
jett said:
I really wonder why they did this.
Given their time and budget.. I understand the detail of the premium content, and that it takes time.. there is no excuse for not giving the tracks a makeover though. And I really hope that they will keep converting standard cars to premium cars, and include them in free updates. No paid DLC unless it's a new car model or track.
I NEED SCISSORS
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People really need to stop comparing photomode shots. Everyone and their granny knows that images with bullshot level AA and a billion different filters and effects are going to look miles away from what you actually get during gameplay. Anyone trying to compare the two using photomode is an idiot - "look, my PENIS is MASSIVELY BIGGER THAN YOURS because my BULLSHOTS are slightly more BULL than YOURS". It's retarded. Direct-feed in native resolution with a framerate counter or bust.
AZ Greg
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At this point, this thread should just be locked. The "win" for either game, in terms of graphics (which is what 99% of this thread discusses), is about as relevant as the NCAA Division 3 lacrosse winners. It's so disappointing too considering what we were led to believe based on marketing and pedigree. Both games just disappoint visually, particularly in the consistency department.
Perhaps the most disappointing thing, however, is that goal posts are even being moved for developers like PD this generation. Last generation it would have been blasphemy to suggest that they would put out a game this visually inconsistent. Sub 60FPS at times? Screen tearing? Nah, not the masters of perfection. Kaz would continue to delay before letting something like that get released. But I guess only now do things like time constraints and the developers being stretched thin count.
Perhaps the most disappointing thing, however, is that goal posts are even being moved for developers like PD this generation. Last generation it would have been blasphemy to suggest that they would put out a game this visually inconsistent. Sub 60FPS at times? Screen tearing? Nah, not the masters of perfection. Kaz would continue to delay before letting something like that get released. But I guess only now do things like time constraints and the developers being stretched thin count.
Kuran said:
It's pretty obvious going by the number of tracks, the polygon-starved look of them, and the "standard" looking rush job ones that the problem is Kaz/Polyphony are car buffs and only care about the cars. So the majority of development time, effort, processing power is given to making the vehicles look and feel right at the expense of the tracks.
As someone who cares more about good looking tracks than cars in my racing games, I find this annoying and it's why I prefer the look of Dirt 2 or PGR4 than Forza 3/GT5P, but I'm not a car enthusiast at all. I just like pretty graphics
PjotrStroganov
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I NEED SCISSORS said:
But in this topic all features are compared, even photomode against photomode.
Lagspike_exe
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AZ Greg said:
GT5 definitely does not disappoint visually. You can post those hideous screens as much as you want, watching the game played on TV tells a whole another story.
Lagspike_exe
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Shogun PaiN said:
Yes, because those shots are representative of GT5's visual quality.
It's like this thread is a twilight zone where Prologue never existed.
Ashes1396 said:
Even in the crap youtube quality you can notice the same hideous texture design for the wall to the right(I don't even know what the fuck is that supposed to be) and the same polygonal edges on the hill. They probably upgraded a few things here and there but it's essentially the GT4 track.
AZ Greg said:
There are real features that matter that aren't a part of this discussion yet because most fanboys see this thread as an opportunity to slag the other game than to actually come up with a legitimate comparison.
We've already seen some fanboys claim there is no comparison but it goes to show how little they know of the genre.
Fact is both games are flawed and for anyone interested in these competing products making their next versions better would be interested in doing this comparison.
This thread was also necessary for cleaning out the Forza comparisons made in the GT thread from GT fanboys and needed a thread to vent.
Lagspike_exe
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Shogun PaiN said:
I can find bad screenshots from virtually any game ever released. The fact is, GT5 is the best looking racing game ever released.
Shogun PaiN said:
C'mon, stop playing dumb.
Those pictures are not representative because they are pictures of GT5 gameplay USING PS2 CARS, not PS3 cars.
Now if you buy the game and play only using Ps2 cars than yes, that's representative of the game. But since any sane person will be using ps3 cars they do not represent the in-game graphics you will see when playing.
Omotesando
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Shogun PaiN said:
They are ugly shots from an otherwise outstanding looking game, and easily the best looking racing game in the market, don't let a few shots fool you.
To answer your question, no they aren't representive, just as the numorous photomode shots here that aren't representive og the overall look of the game. But hey, tomorrow the game is out, go look for yourself, dont keep kidding yourself.
Bebpo said:
Playing dumb? Take away the PS2 models (which shouldn't eve be there in the first place) and some of the tracks still look like rick smooth creamy shit. Some of the textures in those screens seriously belong in a mid tier MMO. I dont think anyone can deny that GT5 is the best looking racer on consoles but on the flip side you cant deny that the game is very inconsistent in the graphics department.
Ashes1396 said:
I found a video of GT4's Trial Mountain running in an emulator in HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTA3ss26bWU&hd=1
They altered the colors for GT5 but the polygonal mesh of the track looks remarkably similar.
jett said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHktF1jmX18
Hmmmm, it's weird. It's obviously the same track assets, but the lighting makes it look a lot more modern/realistic in GT5.
RustyNails
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From the GT5 Photo thread, I present
santi_yo said:
Windom Earle
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I leave to play the game for a few hours and this thread exploded! :lol
Good way to pass the time for people still waiting for the game I guess.
Good way to pass the time for people still waiting for the game I guess.
Relaxed Muscle
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You know, after playing again the Forza 3 demo and watching more GT5 material, you know what makes the deal in favor of GT5?, that dat lightning, Forza3 looks like a videogame all the time, GT5 sometimes manage to trick you and for some moments it looks your watching a real car in your TV.
Also GT5 ingame cars dosn't have tinted glasses that only let you see darkened interiors, I mean that shit belongs to the last gen..., I couldn't play the demo in other perspective that wasn't the interior one....
And why the fuck trial mountain looks so bad in GT5, it was my favorite GT track and it seems like they put the GT4 track model in there and call it a day...
Edit:Wow, it's a bit scary to see what I did resurrecting this thread....I hope the Gt5 OT it's safe thanks to this... :lol
Also GT5 ingame cars dosn't have tinted glasses that only let you see darkened interiors, I mean that shit belongs to the last gen..., I couldn't play the demo in other perspective that wasn't the interior one....
And why the fuck trial mountain looks so bad in GT5, it was my favorite GT track and it seems like they put the GT4 track model in there and call it a day...
Edit:Wow, it's a bit scary to see what I did resurrecting this thread....I hope the Gt5 OT it's safe thanks to this... :lol
brotkasten
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Wrong thread. Awesome, I know.
Metalmurphy
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brotkasten said:
http://www.gran-turismo.com/local/jp/data1/products/gt5/courselist_en.html
*edit* I answered anyway.
Windom Earle
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Bebpo said:
I've not seen many of the tracks based on my limited play time but I can tell you that Madrid and Tokyo are mindblowing. Knowing Madrid quite well, little details and accuracy are ridiculous. Some seem on par with Prologue tracks (e.g. Cape Ring, awesome track!!!!) and some are disappointing in certain areas (e.g. trees on the ring). Could the game be more consistent? Yes! That said, it is still the best looking racing game BY FAR and it is not surprising that certain fanboys act all surprised over some bad captures.
I used to defend bad Forza 3 captures in this very thread, I will do the same for GT5.