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"I need a New PC!" 2011 Edition of SSD's for everyone! |OT|
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Baller. PhD
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I'm sitting here control-R'ing as well.Funky Papa said:
opticalmace
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Didn't they already do a Vertex 3 review? Or was that a preview...
Baller. PhD
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Preview. This is the real review with the finalized components. Last night they teased on Twitter that there were some big differences between the 120GB and 240GB models.
opticalmace
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Funky Papa
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opticalmace said:
Damn it. I intended to use it as a OS/gaming drive, leaving the actual work to my conventional HDD. Now I'm not completely sure if the Vertex 3 is going to be a good option.
Edit: It looks fine, but still.
Edit 2: It is clear that the Vertex 3 is a fast drive, but performance is pretty damn embarrassing in this particular test.
opticalmace said:
Only partway through the review so far. Anand does it again. The background info and explanation of the problems the SandForce drive makers are facing is very insightful.
Thankfully, sequential write speeds are pretty much the least important in terms of real world performance. I suppose it could have a big impact when it comes to compressing files, but that's about it.
Random writes are apparently pretty important though, according to TheSSDReview...haven't gotten to the benchmark portion of the review yet.
Correct, you cannot put AM3 procs in AM2+ boards. Also yes, if you buy a retail box of a CPU, it comes with a heatsink.Pandoracell said:
It's probably a fan. Listen close to figure out which one. Components generally don't make noise outside of HDDs.caliblue15 said:
You're suffering from chart-itis. Those are still good #'s, and in a benchmark that won't really effect your OS/Gaming experience.Funky Papa said:
Yeah after looking over the review, the Vertex 3 120GB model sufferers everywhere, including reads. Definitely not nearly as good as the 240GB drive. Given the fact that the 240GB drive is also a much lower $/GB, I probably wouldn't go with the 120GB model.
No idea until we see reviews of the lower end models.
If it's anything like the X25-M series, you may expect half the write speeds under the worst case scenario. Not a huge deal in most real world applications.
Sarcasm said:
No idea until we see reviews of the lower end models.
If it's anything like the X25-M series, you may expect half the write speeds under the worst case scenario. Not a huge deal in most real world applications.
shouamabane
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I've got the 240g Vertex 3 coming in tomorrow. Is enabling TRIM a good idea? I'm brand new to this SSD business.
Sanic
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mkenyon said:
Motherboard's that old, huh? :/ really was hoping I wouldn't have to touch that for awhile. So there's nothing at all worthwhile that I could get? I'd like to weigh my options, at least.
My little $500 pc project is balooning to $800+. I'll need to go about this better next time.
edit: Wikipedia is telling me that an AM3 proc will work on an AM2+ MB, but i'm assuming that's wrong? My motherboard is from late '09.
Case and PSU arrived today from Amazon. My first thoughts were DAT damn box. The box is huge. I'm looking at it like what the fuck? Is this a full tower, did Amazon fuck up? Turns out they didn't. Took it out of the packaging and looked at the case. Pretty damn nice and solid. Also a long case but it looks like there will be plenty of room. Fans everywhere. Thanks for the recommendation Exodu5!
And yes...I will be keeping the wrapping on the window hood style :lol J/K
GTX 580
HDD
SDD
RAM
is all that remains now.
Baller. PhD
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FML
Time to find a new SSD then...
Time to find a new SSD then...
black_vegeta
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Smokey said:
Damn, that case looks sexy.
You also got dat Modular 850w Corsair PSU.
Check with your manufacturer whether or not it supports it. Some do, but it does lock out some abilities of the proc, and gives you reduced performance. A nice AM3 board is only $70-80. Also, upgrading to an AM3 board will be a one time deal, as AM3+ will be out in June. No more AM3 procs.Pandoracell said:
Otherwise, your choices for the best of the AM2+ are the 9xxx series of Phenom II X4's. I had a 9850 until last fall, as it was bottlenecking my performance in just about everything. Really, you'd be doing yourself a disservice by going with one unless you just can't find room in your budget.
Oh yes, that's a great little board. Have the same exact one in my Media Center PC. Yes, that guy supports AM3.Pandoracell said:
Funky Papa
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Notice that Anandtech still has to receive a final 240GB unit. This doesn't sound good at all.
black_vegeta
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BloodySinner
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I fucking hate windowed side panel, but that case will last you years.
Smokey said:
Hehe. You were worried that it would be small since it's a mid tower. Told you, it's actually a full tower disguised as a mid-tower.
irishcow said:
Not much, I think. Functionally, they're mostly the same thing. I'd personally get the FT-02 just because it looks so much nicer. It looks like a much nicer build overall.
Looking at some posts online, apparently the FT02 has sound dampening.
Funky Papa said:
He didn't ask for one, as far as I can tell. edit: nvm he did...waiting on it.
The final 240GB unit should be like the preview. The main reason the 120GB unit suffers is because it has half the number of NAND units, so with big parallel loads, the worst case scenario is achieved giving it half the total throughput.
Funky Papa
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Quoting so somebody may help us all in the same situation.shouamabane said:
Funky Papa said:
try this http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2010/02/04/windows-7-ssd-performance-and-trim/1
hope it helps and sorry for not summarizing for you
vexvegaz said:
my WC parts came in..
EK supreme WB
EK GTX580 WB
Black Tygon 7/16 tubes
swiftech pump with new casing and top
multiport res
several barbs and fittings
still waiting on my 1200w PSU
Damn
shit looks fierce. I'll keep my "watercooling" contained to the H70
vexvegaz said:
my WC parts came in..
EK supreme WB
EK GTX580 WB
Black Tygon 7/16 tubes
swiftech pump with new casing and top
multiport res
several barbs and fittings
still waiting on my 1200w PSU
Make sure to post some pics when it's set up!
This your first watercooling build?
Realistically, what type of overclock should I be expecting from the H70? As I mentioned before it was an impulse buy. I originally had the 212+ in my basket, but liked the way the H70 looked (lol) so I went with it.
I know it's not "true" watercooling, but what speeds do you guys think I'll see from the 2600k?
I know it's not "true" watercooling, but what speeds do you guys think I'll see from the 2600k?
Smokey said:
Should be just as good as the best air cooling. Anywhere from 4.6-5.2GHz, depending on how high you want your voltages. Voltages are what keep me from going higher on my overclock, not temps. I could go higher, but I don't want to risk it for performance gains that I don't actually need currently.
Supposedly legit AMD Bulldozer and Fusion engineering samples:
AMD Bulldozer 1 desktop (socket AM3+ aka AM3b)
AMD Fusion desktop quad-core (socket FM1)
Assuming these are real, and also not just early samples, but potentially representative of final parts, the AM3 vs AM3+ plot thickens.
BD Fusion should be interesting, however FM2, and Bulldozer 2 really need to switch to LGA.
AMD Bulldozer 1 desktop (socket AM3+ aka AM3b)
AMD Fusion desktop quad-core (socket FM1)
Assuming these are real, and also not just early samples, but potentially representative of final parts, the AM3 vs AM3+ plot thickens.
BD Fusion should be interesting, however FM2, and Bulldozer 2 really need to switch to LGA.
Could easily be the Corsair H70's biggest problem. To get in the range of performance and sound levels you get from a Noctua NH-D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow, you need to make an additional investment, making it that much more expensive than the top air coolers than it already is.vexvegaz said:with proper air circulation inside your case and replace the stock fans, you should be able to hit 4.7 - 4.8Ghz
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