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any 990FX microATX boards yet?
Friday, 10. June 2011
This is NOT Excavator ...
WARNING, this is not final Unknown product, tested in Mosambic, diffused in Singapore ... enjoy.
EDIT: Benched with new mobo ..
Gigabyte MA-990FX-UD7, first results was with MA-890FX-UD5 ... perf. difference is really small .. but, awaiting new BIOS, some Turbo related problems i have ...
48% better then Thuban ...
23% better then Thuban
32% above Thuban (?)
44% above Thuban
PS. Thats not my shots, i found them in e-mail from unknown sender ... maybe Believe or not ..
I believe there have been a handful of 970 mATX, maybe 1 or 2 990X mATX, but I don't recall seeing any 990FXs yet.FrozenCell said:any 990FX microATX boards yet?
Power
Systems based on AMD technology have long been criticized for having a shorter battery life than systems based on competing technology. This is no longer the case with Sabine. Yes. In fact, internal testing demonstrates our Sabine platform will yield as good or better battery life than our competitors current platforms. In our labs we were able to exceed our expectations in terms of battery life using the Windows 7 idle test on the very same platform that we sampled to the press. This battery life performance handily surpasses a competing platform that was purchased at retail.
USB 3.0 Integration
With our new Sabine platform, AMD is the first company to integrate USB 3.0 into its core logic. Because of this, were enabling the following benefits of USB 3.0 over USB 2.0:
- 10X bandwidth allowing up to 5 Gbps transfer rates
- Full Duplex and Asynchronous operation
- More power available through the ports
Translation: USB 3.0 enables the use of 1080p cameras! This means a new level of realism for video conferencing and other forms of tele-presence. We have been working with our partner, Point Grey who have developed a very small USB 3.0 based camera which they call Flea3. This camera can stream uncompressed 1080p60 video. As you can see in the linked video <link>, while an AMD system using Flea3 is able to request and process the same frames per second rate as the Intel system, its also able to display up to 4x the Hz enabling a much sharper, jolt-free visual experience. There are other benefits to integrating USB 3.0 as well, including the availability of 4 ports instead of the current 2 found in most discrete solutions today.
slidewinder said:A 2500k does SuperPI 1M at about 11.5 seconds stock, and 8.5 seconds OC'd to 4.4 GHz. The screenshot on this page shows the "unknown CPU" finishing at 15.4 seconds, and the Malaysian review posted earlier has the A8-3800 at about 24 seconds with a core running at 5.4 GHz. Of course that's just one benchmark, but that doesn't seem very promising for gaming.
I should've put quotes around that 5GHz+ speed because it's a display error (not unlike the 6GHz Bulldozers clocks floating around). The CPU wasn't running at that speed. Keep in mind that the A8-3800 and other desktop/mobile Llanos don't have L3 cache, will mostly have stock clocks below that Intel (A8-3800 @ 2.4GHz, 2500K @ 3.3GHz), and, being very similar to Athlon IIs, will be outperformed in CPU heavy tasks. Fusion is still low-mid level at present.slidewinder said:A 2500k does SuperPI 1M at about 11.5 seconds stock, and 8.5 seconds OC'd to 4.4 GHz. The screenshot on this page shows the "unknown CPU" finishing at 15.4 seconds, and the Malaysian review posted earlier has the A8-3800 at about 24 seconds with a core running at 5.4 GHz. Of course that's just one benchmark, but that doesn't seem very promising for gaming.
PALO ALTO, Calif., June 14, 2011
HP today expanded its consumer and business notebook portfolios with 11 new models utilizing AMDs latest VISION Technology for exceptional performance at an affordable price.
Powered by AMDs A-series Accelerated Processing Units (APUs) that combine leading-edge CPU cores and powerful discrete-graphics onto a single die of silicon, HPs new notebooks offer solutions for consumers, small and midsize businesses (SMBs) and large corporations.
Model specific info and prices at the above HP link.Pricing and availability
Pricing and availability varies. Not all models are available in all regions.
The HP Pavilion dv6 starts at $599.99 and the Pavilion dv7 starts at $699.99. The Pavilion dv6 and dv7 are expected to be available in July.
The HP Pavilion g4 starts at $449.99, the Pavilion g6 starts at $498 and the Pavilion g7 starts at $499. The HP Pavilion g-series is expected to be available in July.
The HP ProBook b-series starts at $679. The HP ProBook b-series is expected to be available on June 27.
The HP ProBook s-series starts at $519 and is expected to be available on June 27.
i've seen tons of FM1 ones but can you help me find a 970 or 990X mATX board?·feist· said:I believe there have been a handful of 970 mATX, maybe 1 or 2 990X mATX, but I don't recall seeing any 990FXs yet.
Pouring over a few thousand products from Computex, I must have "misremembered" things. I thought at least Jetway or ECS had some on display. My mistake.FrozenCell said:i've seen tons of FM1 ones but can you help me find a 970 or 990X mATX board?
i wonder about the lack of 990FX mATX - its 4 card slots would easily saturate the capacity of the chipset regarding PCIe lanes. Out of the 7 ATX slots, most are useless x1 slots, ancient PCI ones or fake full lenth slots, who on earth fills all those 7 with addon cards? Hoping MSI or someone has a nice 990FX mATX hidden somewhere waiting for BD launch :|
Microsoft Going All-in on GPU ComputingPreviously, I blogged about key trends in software development starting with concurrency/parallelism, and indeed today multi-core systems are everywhere. You can target multi-core systems from many mainstream programming languages, and with Visual Studio 2010 we delivered market leading tooling for parallel development and debugging. You can see my post on our concurrency enhancements to C++ for VS2010 and here for a walkthrough of our parallel debugging tools.
In the last few years, we have been seeing an additional trend of heterogeneous hardware where, for example, developers take advantage of the GPU for computational purposes for their data parallel algorithms. This has been successful in narrow verticals using niche programing models. Microsoft wants to bring to the mainstream the ability to write code that takes advantage of heterogeneous hardware like GPUs. So like weve done with multi-core before, we are bringing this ability to the next version of Visual Studio.
Im excited to announce that we are introducing a new technology that helps C++ developers use the GPU for parallel programming. Today at the AMD Fusion Developer Summit, we announced C++ Accelerated Massive Parallelism (C++ AMP). Additionally, Im happy to say that we intend to make the C++ AMP specification an open specification.
By building on the Windows DirectX platform, our implementation of C++ AMP allows you to target hardware from all the major hardware vendors. We expect that it will be part of the next Visual C++ compiler and fully integrated in the next release of Visual Studio experience.
In addition, there is more work that we are doing on parallel computing. We also announced new enhancements to the next version of Parallel Patterns Library (PPL) and the C++ Concurrency Runtime. You can find easy-to-use C++ templates and runtime support to express algorithms for your domain expertise which scale on any provided hardware with PPL, Agent and the C++ Concurrency Runtime. With C++ AMP and PPL, we aim to make the next version of Visual Studio the most productive environment for targeting heterogeneous hardware available.
We will be making the session recording from Herb Sutters keynote session and Daniel Moths break-out session from the AMD Fusion conference available shortly. Please check the Visual C++ Team Blog or Channel 9 for those videos.
Namaste!
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At AMD's ISC stand one could find several 2U and 4U servers built with older Opteron chips, but it was a 1U pizza box server made by Supermicro that housed two 16-core Bulldozer chips running live demonstrations of POVRay. This is the first time that AMD has publicly displayed its next generation Opteron processor, codenamed Bulldozer.
The chaps manning AMD's stand said that Bulldozer still has a Q3 2011 launch date and, judging by the fact that it has started to display working machines, we can assume that timeframe is not too optimistic. Asked whether AMD will be coming up with a Llano style Opteron featuring an accelerated processor unit (APU), AMD told The INQUIRER that "an Opteron APU still at least two years off".
One thing that surprised us was how cool the chips were running. We were able to touch the heatsinks with our bare hands. Given that this is a 1U server where cooling capabilities are stretched to the limit, that is a mighty impressive showing from AMD.
why is that? is AMD getting intentionally the short end of the stick? can't recall there being any 890FX mATX boards either :\·feist· said:There should be 970 mATX on sale, and one of AMD's own slides show 800-series boards (some mATX) with an IGP still being produced. Just like s-1366, I wouldn't expect to see many high end 990FX options available in that form actor.
High end mATX and mITX are a niche of an even large niche. In a way, 970s play Intel's H67/H61, to the 990X/990FX's P67/Z68 act. Lower spec chipsets dominate what's often viewed as a lower spec form factor. That's partially down to niche, and also owes to having less PCB to work with to construct a high end board. You'll be hard pressed to find a wide variety of X79s in mATX and mITX, for instance. To compensate for the reduced footprint, you can use higher-end (pricier) components, doing more with less. Options will always be more limited, though.FrozenCell said:why is that? is AMD getting intentionally the short end of the stick? can't recall there being any 890FX mATX boards either :\
It's expected to be somewhere in the ballpark of Intel's current lineup. Certainly closer than the current AMD:Intel disparity.terrdactycalsrock said:So is Bulldozer suppose to be more powerful than the icore 5 or icore7?
Nice. Now you just need to wait for reviews to see what overall compatibility looks like.Aurarian said:Sweet, my motherboard will be able to support the new AM3+ CPU's then according to that list(have a MSI 870A-G54).
However, with the upcoming 16-core "Interlagos" and eight-core "Valencia" Opteron chips based on the "Bulldozer" core, AMD is looking to give mainstream customers greater control over the performance and power consumption of their AMD chips, according to Kerby.
With the new Bulldozer-based Opterons, which are set for release in the third quarter, AMD is introducing TDP Power Cap, which will give enterprises the ability to set the TDP (thermal design power) of their processors, essentially customizing their chips to meet power and workload demands. Using various knobs in the BIOS, businesses will be able to reduce the overall TDP of the chipthey won't be able to increase it beyond the maximum level set by AMDwhich will help in power consumption, and then tweak the frequency of the cores as needed to get the maximum amount of performance allowed under the TDP setting, Kerby said.
"While you set the [TDP] cap, you can still operate at a high frequency," he said.
In addition, businesses can keep the TDP at the level set by AMD, and change the frequencies of the processors to add power, while keeping the overall power use under the TDP.
There's also logic built into the Bulldozer architecture, called Application Power Management, that manages the power budget and power resources, including pushing power to specific cores when needed to keep them below the TDP setting, Kerby said.
Along with TDP Power Cap, AMD in the Bulldozer-based Opterons will introduce an enhanced version of Turbo Core, a technology that was first launched last year in AMD's Phenom chips and that essentially enables users to push the chip's base speed up closer to the level of the TDP. The feature enables users to squeeze extra performance out of the chip and gain maximum clock speeds, and will complement TDP Power Cap in the area of customization, according to AMD.
APML (Advanced Platform Management Link), which allows for remote power management, also will work with TDP Power Cap, according to AMD's Kerby.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1037410890#post1037410890Join HardOCP and AMD for a day of gaming in downtown Dallas on July 16th! Raffles and tons of free stuff will be had. Free-for-all headshots will be made. Winners will be crowned. Losers will be chastised! Get hands on with AMD's "Bulldozer" FX processor! Hands on preview of Deus Ex: Human Revolution! Plenty of Fusion, Eyefinity, and Big Screen demo stations. More details coming soon. Discussion. New details start here.
Did you see the first chart in this post?Rolf NB said:This is taking too damn long. I want desktop Bulldozers this year. My rig's overdue for a significant CPU upgrade.
Finally getting the 32nm chips out is cool and all, but Llano just doesn't represent an upgrade even so.
Also the newly introduced socket split is annoying. There could have been a new socket that supports both, APUs and all the other new chips. If not now, it will have to come at some point anyway.
Get in line, Kyaw. Outside of tiles like Starcraft and Lost Planet 1/2, your CPU isn't really hampering you in most games, anyway.Kyaw said:If they are introducing a new socket for the higher end BD, i might as well wait and get w/c for my current Phenom II X4...
I want to see some BD reviews though.
Well "FMx" won't be the actual name, but if it was in fact FM1, that would have been in the chart. Something about FM1 isn't up to par with what Bulldozer requires, and it'll have to make way for another platform, new sockets, new motherboards.·feist· said:Did you see the first chart in this post?
That would've likely required a further delay, in part due to logistics, and Llano Fusion and Zambezi Bulldozer not having all the same controllers on-chip. Bulldozer 2 will address that, and assuming "Bulldozer Enhanced" is in fact BD2, you'll see it next year.
Yeah, "FMx" is placeholder. AM3+'s short lifespan has been know for some time now (a few of us actually discussed it in last year's PC thread), but if FM1 doesn't at least support Trinity, I wouldn't know what to make of that. There is the disclaimer that they use on certain CPU/GPU projections, along with the socket ambiguity, so we'll see.Rolf NB said:Well "FMx" won't be the actual name, but if it was in fact FM1, that would have been in the chart. Something about FM1 isn't up to par with what Bulldozer requires, and it'll have to make way for another platform, new sockets, new motherboards.
Both AM3+ and FM1 sockets will be rather short lived.
AMD's Llano platform might not satisfy everyone's power-lust when housed in a desktop, but stick one of these all-in-one beauties in a laptop and you're good to go. The new HP Pavilion dv6z Quad notebook -- one of 11 new Fusion-powered models from HP -- is a case in point, having just arrived at the company's online store. The base model promises battery life of up to almost six hours, "discrete-class" integrated Radeon graphics with 512MB of video memory, and a 1.4GHz quad-core processor that can be clocked up to 2.3GHz using AMD's Turbo technology. Oh yeah, and there's the real benefit of switching to AMD: that base configuration costs just $650, versus a minimum of $999 for the Intel-equipped dv6t. For the money, you'll also get 6GB of DDR3 memory, a 640GB 5400rpm HDD, a 1366 x 768 display (yes, a glossy one), HDMI output, and a pair of USB 3.0 ports in addition to two of the USB 2.0 variety. We ought to clarify that the sexy steel gray version on the left will cost you $25 extra, but hey, who wants to be "umber gray?"
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cqcumber said:first time to the event and just wanna share my experience.
dirt 3 demo with recaro seat, it's badassssssssssssssssssss!
Fonil said:The dirt 3 pictures you see above is one of the two machines at the venue running bulldozer Build as far as I could see
Asus Rampage V
a SINGLE 6970
Unnamed bulldozer
Corsair h50 and it was running the game flawlessly. There were more problems with the tf2 machines than those. Severely impressed and would have loved to have seen the game running on a 1100T setup next to it.
mikeohara said:
Still later in the call, when it was clear that Wall Street needed something to get excited about, AMD let slip that the Opteron 6200s would launch next month and that their desktop companion, the FX Series, code-named "Zambezi", would come out next month, as well. After clarification from AMD's press relations people, El Reg discovered that AMD's top brass meant to say that these two chips would ship for revenue next month, but it is still not clear when they will be formally announced.
On the server front, Siefert said that the 16-core "Interlagos" Opteron 6200 processor, the first server chip to make use of the "Bulldozer" core and implemented in GlobalFoundries' 32 nanometer processes, would ship this quarter to OEM partners. He added that the chip would offer about a 35 per cent performance boost compared to the current 12-core Opteron 6100s.
This new enthusiast-level will be called Corona and will feature Komodo CPUs with up to 10, yes ten, Piledriver CPU cores with AMD Turbo CORE 3.0, support for DDR3 memory and an all-new FM2 socket. Rather than continue with the current chipset naming scheme, the Corona platform will use the new Hudson D4 chipset with support for 8 SATA3 ports, 10x USB 2.0 and 4x USB 3.0. Rounding the platform off, well have AMDs upcoming Radeon HD 7000 series discrete graphics cards, which may hit the market later this year.
Moving on to the mainstream desktop, we have the Virgo platform, which will feature Trinity APUs (rumoured to be used in next generation Xbox) with up to 4 Piledriver CPU cores, AMD Turbo CORE 3.0, a DirectX 11 GPU core, DDR3 support and the same FM2 socket we mentioned with Corona interesting! On the chipset-side of things, we will see the same A75 and A55 chipsets we have today, which feature support for 4 USB 3.0 and 6x SATA3 (on the A75) as well as 14x USB 2.0.
On the base desktop, we will have AMDs Deccan platform, which uses the Wichita APU (up to 4 Bobcat CPU cores, a DirectX 11 GPU core, DDR3 support and FT2 socket) and the Yuba chipset.
Nor will they nor is AMD planning such a thing.[Nintex] said:... but I've yet to see an APU with graphics performance on par with an enthusiast standalone GPU.