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OMG in heaven it's here, and my launch Wii can apparently still play dual-layered discs. Happiness!
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OMG in heaven it's here, and my launch Wii can apparently still play dual-layered discs. Happiness!
Aveyn Knight
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For quest 3, you apparently need 3 star affinity inExterminieren said:
Frontier Village
Can you give more information about that end of game quest? As far as I know,Indyana said:
there's a Giant's treasure at Satorl (quest from Nopon Camp), Makna forest (quest from Lupa at Frontier Village) and the final one from Tephra Cave (from Shura, found in one of the new locations).
EDIT
You can "control" other characters in two ways AFAIK:
1. Perform a chain attack with max party gauge. All 3 party members get to perform a move and there's a chance of looping back and continuing.
2. When you get a
vision of the future
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The game explains it that way because you can control either character by switching them outside battle (obviously). But the AI is usually pretty good about toppling a broken opponent as long as the Art is available to do it, so you don't really need much control there.Tiktaalik said:
RPGCrazied
Member
Guess I'm going to grind a bit, wee. There is a lot of quests in the
I hope to level up a few more times on these.
The Mechon Capital
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Early Wiis had cheap lasers that could easily get dirty and stop reading dual layer discs. Was a big deal around the time Brawl came out since it was the first dual layer Wii game. Some could be fixed with a cleaning kit, others had to be sent in.ivysaur12 said:
Doesn't seem like a widespread issue though.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, particularly the story mode since I think that's what is on the second layer (or the FMVs at least).ivysaur12 said:
Diprosalic
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chaosblade said:
i know a guy who repairs multiple wiis a day since launchtime and he never had one that had this issue.
Aveyn Knight
Member
Okay, then the information I was posted was kind of relevant for your needs.Indyana said:
I'm guessing the "Giant's Knowledge" is the item "Truth of the Giants". You can find it in Tephra cave, by going through the new road in Villa Lake until you find Bafalgar's Tomb (it's just a bit north from Villa Lake). Shura should give you a quest chain that results in you getting this item. Although I should mention the quest requires to fight a Level 80+ boss.
Champomade
Member
Guys,
Stupid question: is it impossible to rotate the camera manually? I can't figure it out and it's making me crazy
It's the first real game I play since FFXII...
Stupid question: is it impossible to rotate the camera manually? I can't figure it out and it's making me crazy
It's the first real game I play since FFXII...
Aveyn Knight
Member
Are you playing with the Wii remote? You need to first hold the C button on the nunchuck. Then you can move the camera with (I think) the D pad (if I got it wrong, there are button prompts on screen to help you anyway).Champomade said:
Champomade
Member
Aveyn Knight said:
Thanks!
I just bought the wii for this game, i guess i will buy a classic controller next
hlhbk said:
Yes the game is really THAT good, basically everybody loves it so far. It is a real masterpiece (and I rarely use that word)
As for the story, I am 65 hours in and imo it just keeps getting better. Another new part just opened up for me and I am fascinated by the whole world and everything it contains. And for the first time ever I don't have to go facepalm at the story or the characters, they are all great (with one arguable exception).
You will really love it if you like JRPGs.
RPGCrazied
Member
Unless the ending is trash or stupid, this is my favorite jRPG this generation, maybe all time. Question about a weapon.
Does the Manado only transform once?
Aveyn Knight
Member
RPGCrazied said:
Monado III is the best version.
RPGCrazied
Member
Oh nice, so it does again? Thanks.
Oh, it doesn't? Does it or not? lol.
Oh, it doesn't? Does it or not? lol.
RPGCrazied
Member
Any old zones with mid level 60 stuff? I don't remember. I do remember lots of 90's and 70's.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Just reached
Field, level 63, done around
sidequests, and at 95 hours on the clock
Oh man the music is awesome here
Mechonis
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Oh man the music is awesome here
RPGCrazied
Member
BlazingDarkness said:
I beat you.
Of course I don't have a life. lol. Don't have that much time on the game clock though. Only 65hours.BlazingDarkness
Member
HahaRPGCrazied said:I beat you.
I been doing the sidequests too, don't want the game to end!
RPGCrazied said:I beat you.
I finished the game at 60 hours...and yeah, I work 40 hour weeks and live with my girlfriend who HATES the game (lol).
How did I manage it? No sleep. Oh yes. I slept for an hour the night before last, woke up at 1am, and played until 10am when I finished it. Not the first night like that, but alas its the only time I get to use the TV here
now...for rest.
RPGCrazied
Member
richisawesome said:
Well, right now, no job.
And no other half, so I have plenty of free time. Its nice to sit and play Xenoblade all day. Which I've been doing.HiddenAway
Member
Help! I decided to have a look around the official UK website for the game and I noticed the sound samples near the bottom of the page. The first 2 I can figure out where they're from but I can't remember hearing sample 3 anywhere in the game and I've finished it .
Anyone know where it comes from because it's going to bug me now!
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/games/wii/xenoblade_chronicles_32583.html
Edit: Never mind. It's "Unfinished Battle" and only used (presumably) in a scene about a quarter of the way into the game.
A shame really, because it's great to listen to...
.Anyone know where it comes from because it's going to bug me now!
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/games/wii/xenoblade_chronicles_32583.html
Edit: Never mind. It's "Unfinished Battle" and only used (presumably) in a scene about a quarter of the way into the game.
A shame really, because it's great to listen to...
BlazingDarkness said:
I'm headed there myself.
Level 66
165 hours
Just finished up the quest to unlock the 4th skill tree for the last party member. It's good to hear that there's some more great music to look forward to in the next area. The battle music in
Fallen Arm
So I finished the game today, slightly over 100 hours in, lv. 95 characters, all locations at 5 stars, (mid-game location spoiler)
, all the sidequests I'd seen completed, though I definitely missed some.
Whoa at some of the ending plot points - I definitely didn't see them coming, though they're something you'd expect from Monolithsoft. Despite that, I think this is probably their tightest, most polished, and least convoluted game plot-wise - it has less crazy ambition and scope than Xenogears or Xenosaga (though as you play throughout you'll definitely notice the similarities in motifs and themes, so changing the game's name from "Monado" to "Xenoblade" was a fair one, I think), and instead tries to focus more on telling its story well. And that's a good thing.
Overall, just a great game - definitely RPG of the generation for me, really of the past two generations - haven't enjoyed an RPG this much as a complete package since Xenogears on the PS1. Fun battle system with good challenge, even at higher levels, addictive loot / monster drops, strongly presented plot with some surprising and interesting twists, great music, and gorgeous explorable environments of awesome size and scope.
Biggest weak point is an overwhelming number of (optional) sidequests, too many of which are simply "fetch this, fight 5 of these, run around and hope you collect 10 of these" - I'd have liked 100 or 200 fewer quests, and more of an emphasis on the stronger quests that fleshed out the dynamics of the world and hinted at its history and its civilizations, or gave insight into the characters. They could also have made the quest / NPC system more user-friendly (the same goes for the menus and gem and equipment management), though I appreciate the features they included like fast-travel, changing the time, and not having to go back to quest givers for certain types of quests.
Wouldn't mind another game in this universe / mythology. Major spoilers, meant only for those who've completed the game:
Also, a question about New Game+:
Which reminds me, is there a "spoiler tag-free" / post-game discussion / review thread for this game, e.g. the Japanese release?
Colony 6 at lv. 5
Whoa at some of the ending plot points - I definitely didn't see them coming, though they're something you'd expect from Monolithsoft. Despite that, I think this is probably their tightest, most polished, and least convoluted game plot-wise - it has less crazy ambition and scope than Xenogears or Xenosaga (though as you play throughout you'll definitely notice the similarities in motifs and themes, so changing the game's name from "Monado" to "Xenoblade" was a fair one, I think), and instead tries to focus more on telling its story well. And that's a good thing.
Overall, just a great game - definitely RPG of the generation for me, really of the past two generations - haven't enjoyed an RPG this much as a complete package since Xenogears on the PS1. Fun battle system with good challenge, even at higher levels, addictive loot / monster drops, strongly presented plot with some surprising and interesting twists, great music, and gorgeous explorable environments of awesome size and scope.
Biggest weak point is an overwhelming number of (optional) sidequests, too many of which are simply "fetch this, fight 5 of these, run around and hope you collect 10 of these" - I'd have liked 100 or 200 fewer quests, and more of an emphasis on the stronger quests that fleshed out the dynamics of the world and hinted at its history and its civilizations, or gave insight into the characters. They could also have made the quest / NPC system more user-friendly (the same goes for the menus and gem and equipment management), though I appreciate the features they included like fast-travel, changing the time, and not having to go back to quest givers for certain types of quests.
Wouldn't mind another game in this universe / mythology. Major spoilers, meant only for those who've completed the game:
maybe a "Caprica" type prequel on Klaus's Earth, and exploring what influenced his creations? I don't know, I got a very BSG vibe from the ending; it also reminded me a bit of Xenogears, with Fei's earlier life as a scientist. Or maybe something similar to Baten Kaitos: Origins, going some years back or to earlier civilizations such as the Giants / White Spiders, or to earlier "cycles".
Also, a question about New Game+:
the tutorial said to try exploring different party members in order to change affinities, and seemed to suggest it would have an impact on plot alternatives? Did I read that wrong? Does anyone know if the plot changes at all - e.g., whether Shulk ends up with Fiora or Melia? And I didn't really understand the explanation about the new "True Monado" weapon and making sure to have it equipped if you clear the game again.
Which reminds me, is there a "spoiler tag-free" / post-game discussion / review thread for this game, e.g. the Japanese release?
KarmaCow said:
Yeah, I think if I were doing it again, I'd focus on maxing out only the Arts I actually use, and not leveling up the rest at all. There are only a limited number of AP points you can get in a first run-through, and you definitely won't use every Art (you can only put a limited number in your "pallette" anyway).
BlazingDarkness
Member
There's no real healer until you get the fourth character, Shulk's heal is the best you'll getAnabuhabkuss said:
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yes, different characters definitely have their own strengths due to stat growth and arts. Plus their arts will give you an idea of what their strengths are and what their role should be in battle. Reyn gets a lot of arts that build and keep aggro and has very high defense and hitpoints, so that makes him a good tank, for example. It's pretty obvious who is good at what as you work your way through the game.Anabuhabkuss said:
Yeah, that's a great song, wish it was used more than once. I liked that particular scene though.HiddenAway said:Help! I decided to have a look around the official UK website for the game and I noticed the sound samples near the bottom of the page. The first 2 I can figure out where they're from but I can't remember hearing sample 3 anywhere in the game and I've finished it
Anyone know where it comes from because it's going to bug me now!
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/games/wii/xenoblade_chronicles_32583.html
Edit: Never mind. It's "Unfinished Battle" and only used (presumably) in a scene about a quarter of the way into the game.
A shame really, because it's great to listen to...
The ideal role for each character is somewhat obvious from how the AI plays them. Look up the tutorial section for each character, too. They'll explain their strengths and weaknesses. For those three, Shulk is the allrounder, he does okay damage, and has a heal. Reyn is the tank, he can take a lot and he draws aggro. Fiora is DPS, a rogue, basically. Let Reyn grab aggro, maneuver Shulk for a backslash and let Fiora do what she does.Anabuhabkuss said:
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I have a question about quests, I'm only a few hours into the game.
Thanks!
I have just triggered the scene where the Mechon attack, and obviously all my quests went away. Will I be able to complete these later, or should I reload and finish all those quests first?
Thanks!
BlazingDarkness
Member
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
You can finish them all later
L0st Id3ntity
Member
Can't help but remember That's So Raven whenever shulk sees a vision. :lol
BlazingDarkness
Member
Melia likes the dobercorgi itemWiseblade said: