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NeoGAF Creative Writing Challenge #88 - "Rough Luck"

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Ashes

Banned
I've been feeling too restless about some apartment nonsense and such to actually sit down and write a story this week.
And no bakemono! I might break into the top half this week! Woot!

Oh yeah sorry about the apartment stuff. Studies used to say the most stressfull thing in life, after splitting or the death of a long term partner, is moving. Hope it works out for you mate.

 

bengraven

Member
And no bakemono! I might break into the top half this week! Woot!

Oh yeah sorry about the apartment stuff. Studies used to say the most stressfull thing in life, after splitting or the death of a long term partner, is moving. Hope it works out for you mate.

I know it's sad, but I thought that, too. "No Dunbar? Damn, I might stand a chance to get into the top 3". haha

Disclaimer: I have not read any of the stories yet, so please don't take that as a reflection of their quality - I'm not like "Oh my story is so much better than you assholes'..."
 

Ashes

Banned
I know it's sad, but I thought that, too. "No Dunbar? Damn, I might stand a chance to get into the top 3". haha

Disclaimer: I have not read any of the stories yet, so please don't take that as a reflection of their quality - I'm not like "Oh my story is so much better than you assholes'..."

If we're being honest, I stopped caring about positions a long while ago. But competition is what it's supposed to be about on some level, so I don't really want to belittle that either. I'd rather an author write a great story rather then a winning story.
 
I had this idea about something golf-related (rough), using a child golfing with his father and then having him grow up and taking his own son and father golfing.

Yeah.
 

bengraven

Member
If we're being honest, I stopped caring about positions a long while ago. But competition is what it's supposed to be about on some level, so I don't really want to belittle that either. I'd rather an author write a great story rather then a winning story.

I was teasing anyway.

For me, I just like having people to read my short stories and not the three or four usual friends who rarely respond except with a "nice!". I really need to sign up for a workshop somewhere again.
 

Ashes

Banned
ha ha, mine has somehow turned into a magazine article, so what fuck, I'm gonna go all out. :p

Super massive spoilers up in here, so don't read till you've read the stories, or are only going to read reviews of your own stories. Yes, reviews, not crits - don't ask me what the difference is. I'll just say perception.
 

bengraven

Member
ha ha, mine has somehow turned into a magazine article, so what fuck, I'm gonna go all out. :p

Super massive spoilers up in here, so don't read till you've read the stories, or are only going to read reviews of your own stories. Yes, reviews, not crits - don't ask me what the difference is. I'll just say perception.

I'm glad you could get yours to work! During one of the epistolary objectives I wanted to write a short story that felt like a National Geographic article but about something fantastic or sci-fi, but in my brain storming could never get it to work and still keep in the drama and conclusion. I'll think of your story as an example of doing it right.
 

Ashes

Banned
I'm glad you could get yours to work! During one of the epistolary objectives I wanted to write a short story that felt like a National Geographic article but about something fantastic or sci-fi, but in my brain storming could never get it to work and still keep in the drama and conclusion. I'll think of your story as an example of doing it right.

no I mean my critique/reviews. You'll see what I mean in a bit. :p
 

batbeg

Member
Wait, when does voting end? I'm about to pass the fuck out for 12 hours followed by 9 hours of work, but I was planning on reading them all then (I'm swamped for time this weekend!).
 

bengraven

Member
Wow, a lot of really great stories. I started making an "honorable mentions" list, but when I got to five I decided to stop...

1. Alfarif - Iron Timothy
2. ShockingAlberto - Crush
3. Grakl - Terror

This was hard. There are three others that I really wanted to add to the list.

One of which had a bastard of a weather man...


no I mean my critique/reviews. You'll see what I mean in a bit. :p

Now I see what you mean. :p Sorry, I was up really early today.


Hm... I'm kind of worried that I might not be able to vote this time around. My weekend is crunched solid with all kinds of work and I don't think I'm going to have time to read this week. :(

You better! You just got three points from me!
 

Ashes

Banned
Nope... I'm giving way to sleep... Will finish off tomorrow after I come from work. Strange what a free afternoon does, eh?
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
Ok... I managed to read all of them... but I'm not going to tell you WHERE I read them (on the toilet; my ass hurts):

1) Bengraven
2) Cyan
3) texasairhead101

There were a lot of good stories this time around. It was REALLY hard to pick, so it boiled down to whether it was easy for me to make a mental image in my head and/or it threw me for a complete loop until the end.
 

Tangent

Member
Ashes – “Last few thoughts on a journey” or “Are we there yet?” Um, this was absolutely amazing. It read so well. While reading it, I realized I was using an English accent. And I think using an English accent automatically makes any story sound better. But even when I (tried to) stopped using one, it was still fantastic. The word choice was impeccable. By the way, was this your own experience? I’m glad the oil spill didn’t cause an accident. Phew. :eek:) Also, I loved the way the main character described his thoughts about his mom, dad, and his sister. It felt very real and honest. I liked his Google obsession. The one thing that might be helpful: sometimes I found it unclear whether the dialog was separate from his writing. It was clear that the snoring was in his journal and he was recording what happened in real life. But anyway, it’s not a big deal, and actually, any lack of clarity might even enhance the flow, believe it or not. You should work on this and make a huge novel about this kid in the back seat. I would definitely read it.

LiQuid! – “Black Thirteen” I liked this line: “Probably some suave hero that never failed to pull the unlikely win from the jaws of bitter defeat.”  I liked the setting and the characters of your story, and I liked the ending but maybe try playing around with the idea of building up on his hunger earlier. Maybe you can even relate hunger to loneliness or something – and contrast this with the obnoxious PDA couple. But this is just an idea; perhaps talking too much about how his stomach growls during the game might make the ending have less of an impact.

texasairhead101 – “The Country Life”
Welcome! Congrats on your first story! I hope you come back with more! This story was a fun read and I have to say: way to go with that final paragraph. You did very well with shifting around how I imagined the characters. I wonder if there is a way to work it around so the final sentence – not just the final paragraph – reveals the switcheroo that you create. That would be fun to read, but probably be difficult to work out. Sometimes the spelling errors made it difficult to read rather than enhancing the main character’s voice. But other than that, it was a fun read and easy to picture in my mind.

Bootaaay – “Sacrifice”
I liked the dream in the middle of the story and the descriptive word choice. I liked how you described Tiro as a spider, and then kept with that – like when you said, “So with careful steps he silently made his way across the forest floor, weaving between bush and tree, jumping trickling streams, his tired feet headed eagerly towards home.”

Batbeg – “All Kinds of Messed Up”
I really liked the theme of your story and the descriptions were quite dream-like. There were points for me that were hard to follow but that might speak more about my reading than your writing. I like your brain flow style and how your last line begged me to go back to the beginning, and imagine everything happening again.

Alfarif – “Iron Timothy”
This was very fun to read and had a great flow. I liked how casually you described how Timothy woke up the next morning. Great story idea – this would be really fun to turn into a longer piece too, or a video short. I was thinking too that it might be interesting if the red/green bracelets could be expanded too. Like if it meant something for the boss, or to Carlina, if they had bracelets for what they do, etc. Though I’m not really sure how that would work and it would definitely deter from your story line, so, yeah. I’m trying to think of something.

Ronito – “The Trinity Completed”
Glad to have you back! And how classic is this: completely Ronito style. Donkey incidences and all. I wish this had a soundtrack to it. I can’t really think of ways to improve this offhand, but maybe the one area that might have been fun to have more tension was when the priest was getting searched.

Grakl – “Terror”
I really like how the last line came on subtly but powerfully. I do wish there was a bit more of a back drop as to why they were on their journey, but maybe it’s not important to the story. Just my curiosity.  If anything though, maybe it would build up more character.

ShockingAlberto – “Crush”
Wow this was a really cool read. I liked the whole story line but I was also thinking that a good ending would have been when Julie said
she was not a lesbian
.

Ward – “If it Wasn’t for Bad Luck, I Wouldn’t Have Any Luck at All”
This was so fun to read and very action-packed. I like how you could keep the fast pace even with all the description. I also like how you described the pile of trash before Marc realized what it was. I liked the haircut scene, but it did seem a little superfluous. Nevertheless, it was a fun beginning.

Cyan – “Contract”
This was such a fun read! I really liked how you described the fight scene and how you set the stage, describing the casino in Iulia City. I did want to know more about the significance of Alna and if it tied into how Thomas felt about what was going on with Carl Rawlins.


Votes: (Complete toss-up in how I ordered these. Sooooo hard to vote! Argh!)
1. Ashes
2. Shocking Alberto
3. Ronito
HM: Alfarif, Ward, Cyan


Ok... I managed to read all of them... but I'm not going to tell you WHERE I read them (on the toilet; my ass hurts)
Wait wait wait. You're telling me that you read ALL these stories on the loo?! Either you're insanely fast reader, or you're on your way to the hospital right now. How is that POSSIBLE?! LOLFR.
 

Grakl

Member
Grakl – “Terror”
I really like how the last line came on subtly but powerfully. I do wish there was a bit more of a back drop as to why they were on their journey, but maybe it’s not important to the story. Just my curiosity.  If anything though, maybe it would build up more character.

Thanks! Whenever I try to write for these threads, I always have little time (because of school and such). For the next one I'll try to start when the thread starts instead of near the deadline, because I always lack some type of context (which is key to connecting to a story, I think).
 

Cyan

Banned
Votes:
1. ShockingAlberto - "Crush"
2. ronito - "The Trinity Completed"
3. Bootaaay - "Sacrifice"
HM: Tangent, Grakl
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
Alfarif – “Iron Timothy”
This was very fun to read and had a great flow. I liked how casually you described how Timothy woke up the next morning. Great story idea – this would be really fun to turn into a longer piece too, or a video short. I was thinking too that it might be interesting if the red/green bracelets could be expanded too. Like if it meant something for the boss, or to Carlina, if they had bracelets for what they do, etc. Though I’m not really sure how that would work and it would definitely deter from your story line, so, yeah. I’m trying to think of something.

I'm glad you liked it. The way I was visualizing it was a lot of camera dollies. The opening is pretty stationary with just a view of the toilet rim and a little bit of the tile floor and the side of the stall and all of a sudden BAM there's a head getting SMASHED against it. Then again, then again, then we're looking up from just under the toilet to see this guy getting his brains bashed in and someone standing over him doing it. Then we're behind them, dollying backwards, just watching this guy METHODICALLY bash this dude's head in.

Wait wait wait. You're telling me that you read ALL these stories on the loo?! Either you're insanely fast reader, or you're on your way to the hospital right now. How is that POSSIBLE?! LOLFR.

I did honestly read about six of these on the john. The other ones I read while my main editing computer was busy rendering something out for this film I'm working on... so sometimes I had breaks of 5-10 minutes.
 

Ashes

Banned
Just got in. But I'm too tired to get my votes out in the next fifteen minutes. I know I've said fifteen minutes before and came back forty minutes later, so this time I'll just bow out. Count up the votes cyan, the show's over. I have one last story to crit [I've read and made notes on it already at work], but I can't be rushed. Especially since, this time round, I've given all the others a decent breathing space.
 

Cyan

Banned
The Results:
1st Place (tie): Alfarif - "Iron Timothy"
1st Place (tie): ShockingAlberto - "Crush"
3rd Place: bengraven - "The Bad Batch"

Vote Count:
Alfarif - 8 (2)
ShockingAlberto - 8 (1)
bengraven - 6 (2)
Ashes1396 - 5 (1)
Grakl - 4 (1)
Cyan - 4
ronito - 3
batbeg - 2
Bootaaay - 1
texasairhead101 - 1

Congrats, Alfa! Look forward to see what you come up with. Up to you if you want to follow suit on the Friday due date, but I think it worked pretty well this time around. At least, it worked for me. ;)

Nice to see so many new faces. And returnees! Hope to see you guys sticking around.
 

Ashes

Banned
Congrats Alf. A fine story well deserved. Commiserations Shockingalberto. Losing by the narrowest of margins.
 

Ashes

Banned
Wrap up reviews

This week in the Neogaf Creative Writing thread, we had an unusually long writing period, ending on a Friday, which was balanced off with a harsher shortening of the reading and voting period, lasting the rest of the weekend. Cyan, the thread winner from the previous week, decided to do this as part of his theme: Rough luck. The secondary theme encouraged writers to give their final sentence an impact, which quite possibly brought an old timer back into the fold.

The first of 13 stories [apart from my own] was a short story called Black Thirteen, by LiQuid!. The story is about a gambler at the card table and pretty much is a summation of the theme. It's written in a clear style, and is short and concise for the most part. The three symbolic parts of the story, 1, Miguel's high stake gambling, 2, the couple (almost necking), and 3, the all you can eat buffet, were the three things writers [on screen and print] are often advised to include, namely, danger, sex, and/or food. Or perhaps this just the author's subconscious coming through? Dig deeper, and one can interpret the gamblers ruin, his inability to fully understand that he can't work the odds in his favour, and his longing glances at the couple [they have something he doesn't seem to have, both luck and each other], and finally the impassive godly figure of dealer – just there in the background. [3/5].

The Country Life, by another new author texasairhead101, and admittedly a harder read, thanks to the rather laissez faire approach to editing. This is explained [I presume] towards the end by the suggestion that it has been written by a dog, which only leaves me thankful that it isn't a longer piece. Having said that, the twist did work. Even if one presumes that dogs can write in English, why should one presume that it would have a better grasp of grammar? And this is the party trick if you like of the piece. The tale of the two best friends, man and beast, separated by a maiden, is a classic tale; one that includes jealousy, and the natural change in relationships; but even so, from the grammar, I half expected the twist, and was wondering how it would turn out, and it ended better than expected. It is a simple story, and for that it is better for it. [2/5]

Bootaaay with an all new bare chested avatar, entered with the third very short entry of the week, titled Sacrifice. It is overwhelmingly more dense than the previous two above; the sentences are lengthier, but the readability is unaffected, due perhaps to his skills in poetry and experience in the poetry thread. Set in a -now trademark- fantasy land - that Bootaaay seems to like-; Tiro the hunter witnesses a ritualistic sacrifice; and this sacrifice occurs to appease the gods. Only Tiro's father suggests mercy, and this is the turning point of the piece: the leading of Tiro to wonder whether mercy is not only ethical, but the right political choice, as highlighted by the ending, where friends of the wonderer - who was murdered or shall we say 'sacrificed'- arrive looking for him. Although written well for the most part, the writing becomes clumsy in some of the middling paragraphs, making it slightly harder to work out who was doing the killing, and who it was being done to. The role and abject criticism of religion in this story challenges the assertion of what I thought was a mythical place; thus it could be an earlier period in tribal human history, or even more unlikely a post-apocalyptic scene that has seen humans return to this more basic tribalism kind of behaviour. [3.5/5]

batbeg's [another new addition to the fold] All Kinds of Messed Up, is appropriately titled all kinds of messed up. The nauseating fear was detailed by the often harsh and necessary descriptive style. Whilst lacking the rhythmic easily readable prose, and clarity seen in Bootaaay's story, batbeg does a good job of setting the atmosphere in this horrific tale. I like horror stories, and this had good length and a likeable unravel. Punishment, especially the kind of brutality of torture, was vividly shown I thought as well as being implied, and this only faltered slightly after the reveal- I wasn't quite sure whether the narrator was a mental patient in an asylum, or actually had a alien thing in side their head or whether they were to be trusted at all. The other thing that bothered me was the utter clarity at the sudden bright light, which made no sense to me. It should have been blinding, and I could not work out why this wasn't so. All in all, a good debut. [3.5/5]

Alfarif's clean pristine tidypub printed Iron Timothy, starts off with an -unusually for him- clumsy sentence. And though the rest of the piece had a much more clean run, there are occasions where there is a run of short sentences, which gave the story a stilted pace at certain points. The story about the hit-man who kills a friend, had that Alfarif comic feel, that works excellently from then on. The walk, the thoughts, the sight of strangers and red lights, all formed to give a more smooth running picture. And here the brevity works a treat, and written it feels like with greater confidence. The call girl or prostitute feels like a remnant of another story, sin city perhaps, but it works very well, and is the second best part of the story. The best part, for me being just slightly after. And the story had it ended there, when Timothy returned home would have been perfect, I feel, but that last impact or twist needed to be added perhaps [I think not though, as in the case of the Batbeg's story, you don't have to necessarily consider the secondary objective], and so I had to wonder and figure out the wristband technology – which had always been there so a circular ending of sorts. The wristband being a somewhat important part of the story, the ending made sense. It has always been clear to me that Alfarif understands colour and prose far better than I, and compared to last week the story this week came through much more stronger. [3.5/5]

And so we come to the author alluded to at the start of the article. Ronito returned with an old character, in his story, The Trinity Completed. Jose Ramon Mateo Ecazio Ines de la Trinidad claims that he will probably die within that day, and that it is because he is taking on La Moderna cartel. And he is a priest. of course. At first I thought it was near the Mexican border, and that it was the wild west, but the helicopters, snipers, oh and condoms, suggest a more modern setting. And then the high flying drama spills into customary action. If you have read Ronito's stories before, you learn to expect what is coming up and the coming of Al -fucking Roker still raises a smile for me. Lastly, the local language, the dialogue, feels authentic, and is incorporated into the story well, as are the latin prayers the priest says on occasion. Ronito is still one of the few writers on gaf that gets me to laugh, and so that ought to be mentioned as well. I will not mention the donkey incident though. I won't. You can't make me Ronito.[3/5]

Terror, by Grakl, is the story of a predator lurking in wait for the hikers[?], and the eventual gobbling up of them. It fails to scare, or even pique mystery because it is something that has been written many a time before, [rather like my own entry to be fair], so I wondered, whether there was something more substantial beneath the fold for the armchair philosopher and their pencil? The iceberg philosophy so to speak. Or was he attempting to show us something different? Or practising prose. I think the latter. The prose reads beautifully and clearly; Grakl is also a poetry thread contributor and that is evident here, in the concise use of imagery to generate the forest like setting, and the nice flowing of the sentences – an inherently good rhythm almost without conscious thought. The terror came and went, and the though the last line was certainly amongst the best last lines this week, it was predictable and so slightly dull. Still, the piece was written really clearly, and though too short, it was a half-decent story. [2.5/3]

After a long period in the wilderness, bengraven returned with The Bad Batch. His style has changed, though I'm not sure whether it is due to the story at hand or something he has been reading; [he is writing a novel, good luck ben.g!]; the prose is more parse and brevity is the order of the day, with fragmented sentences commanding the reader's attention in a flattering way. The fundamental issue of the piece is the aborted clones left to die, or killed in their millions, and the one Mary, aided somewhat by Joe, in her adoption, defend, rescue, and get justice for of this 'bad batch'. The use of religion is heavily visible, from the names of characters, to the dialogue and the rhetoric; and whilst at first glance there was no inherent criticism, I felt perhaps, that it's pretty much all criticism with the implication of the inability for a religious follower to use critical thinking skills, and/or interpret the bible how they want. The author then included a wetting scene, whose intended meaning I'm not sure of. The last passage brought the story back round the moral aspects of letting the 'bad batch' live, and I thought this the best scene, though it suddenly did awkward 180 with the incestuous ending. I'm not sure what ben was going for, and I'm not really sure, whether I want to know, but as a whole, it demonstrates what a mixed bag of a story it all was. [3/5]

Crush was the story with an unravelling twist, where the use of the form, the written word is used to good effort. Its author ShockingAlberto, and his realistic gaf avatar, writes of two lovers entangled in an adulterous gay love affair, which while not being entirely original, worked a treat. ShockingAlberto worked the prose at least to some degree, as is evident of the foreshadowing, and the withholding of the crucial information; but unlike earlier examples by Zeph, Tangent [admittedly Tangent's effort that time beat out the most difficult competition I've seen in my time in this thread, so the bar is particularly unfairly high] and others, the point of the piece seems to revolve around the 'twist'. When one knows the point, the piece is overwritten -not necessarily rushed-, and fails to invite empathy by stating the obvious till the end. If the ending of the piece matched the heart of the opening, by showing us love, intimacy and tenderness, then the story would have been much better for it. However, we are simply told that age old cliché, that there is regret, and so the piece ends somewhat flat. Which is a shame, as for the most part it was a great piece [3.5/5]

Whilst ShockingAlberto was one among the new flock, Ward is one of the old stalwarts who returned to the thread, and returned he did with 'If It Wasn't for Bad Luck, I Wouldn't Have Any Luck at All'. The titles this week have been great, and this my favourite of the bunch. Ward jotted down the jotted in unfussy fashion, get right into the bad day, and bad luck of it all. Schadenfreude lovers unite, because the character is one unlucky soul. I'm not of that crowd though, I don't think, so I could do nothing by empathise. Although I don't think this is anywhere near Ward's best, there is something about the piece that makes it not only entertaining, but also allows one to interpret or reinterpret the story to ones own views. There doesn't appear to be any effort to do anything apart from telling the events from scene to scene, but it has to be said that the events throttled along a great pace. [2.5/5]


Tangent had so much time this week, she wrote two whole stories. The legitimate entry “The Gods Must Choose”, was the second time she took on the various gods of the major religions, except this time, her argument could be made sense of. A bold and deliberately outrageous piece, that will probably offend Christians, Muslims, Hindu's, all the religions, but at least it's written clearly. As a piece of rhetoric, as these things often are, it works to achieve its ends I suppose. This reviewer is probably just bored by god jokes. And that isn't really to do with Tangent's story, but rather spending too much time debating it all over the place. The story revolves around various gods that are child-like and decide who to help in the world. The choice is between a poor poverty stricken child, or a sports star, and they decide to opt for the sports star. The argument is meant to criticise perhaps sports stars who look up and thank god. Why does god X look and grant a sport star's wishes when he doesn't look at the state of suffering poverty stricken children. And in that act of mockery, it begs the question, why do people believe in stupid gods? Its an interesting debate, and one most folks should have I think. But whether it will be approached in the same way by people of all faiths is a different matter.[2.5/5]
Voila, her second piece is written in an almost stream of consciousness style about a person who wants the figure they adore to notice them. A typical teenage quandary, the prose is well written, witty and engaging. When I've said before how I felt Tangent's text was supposed to be funny, and didn't think it made me a laugh, I recall that she said, she wasn't trying to be humorous, so I'm not sure whether its worth repeating the conversation. But it was good piece none the less. [3/5]

And then we come to our thread op, Cyan's effort, Contract. Contract's lead, Thomas Hutch, an off worlder comes into conflict with somebody that broke a contract. Except as a twist, in this tale, he cannot enforce the contract and the applicable cancellation fee. Whilst it was a good twist, I'm not sure whether the last sentence is supposed to evoke a sense of irony that is present in the tale, or is actually what the lead thinks. I'd guess the former. Cyan has gone back to his trademark almost comic voice, and that lifts the piece that little bit. The addition of a secondary character to which the lead appeals to, may be a trope [? no I'm not going to look in to *that* website and lose an afternoon], but it works great here. It adds a little bit of depth, and also implies that the lead isn't necessarily the smart one; this every day man, I suppose helps to identify with the character. The sci-fi elements are there and present, but thankfully does not overwhelm the characters - the landscape does not out stage the actors, which can be a fault in some stories. I'm not sure whether the casino scene is symbolic or another trope, but my guess, is that it just sets the scene. And the prose is clear, lively and energetic; and demonstrates the author's ease in crafting such stories. [3/5]

I think overall, my favourite story this week was the first story I read, LiQuid!'s Black Thirteen. It was remarkably simple, but I found a lot there that I could work with. Batbeg's All Kind of Messed Up, was the best written piece this week. And Bootaaay's story follows those two, ahead of the rest of the pack, in my top three. That isn't of course to say the others were worse, some are technically better, and others reviewed better.
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
Thanks for the words guys. I just finished the last of these, too late to vote but Iron Timothy was my favorite anyways, so it wouldn't have mattered. Like Bootaaay's a lot too. Was getting a Princess Mononoke, fantasy/horror vibe. Would like to read more of that.

Probably won't do (m)any more of these since I'm exceptionally unmotivated, but I'll keep my eye out and see if future contests spark an idea.
 

bengraven

Member
Wrap up reviews


After a long period in the wilderness, bengraven returned with The Bad Batch. His style has changed, though I'm not sure whether it is due to the story at hand or something he has been reading; [he is writing a novel, good luck ben.g!]; the prose is more parse and brevity is the order of the day, with fragmented sentences commanding the reader's attention in a flattering way. The fundamental issue of the piece is the aborted clones left to die, or killed in their millions, and the one Mary, aided somewhat by Joe, in her adoption, defend, rescue, and get justice for of this 'bad batch'. The use of religion is heavily visible, from the names of characters, to the dialogue and the rhetoric; and whilst at first glance there was no inherent criticism, I felt perhaps, that it's pretty much all criticism with the implication of the inability for a religious follower to use critical thinking skills, and/or interpret the bible how they want. The author then included a wetting scene, whose intended meaning I'm not sure of. The last passage brought the story back round the moral aspects of letting the 'bad batch' live, and I thought this the best scene, though it suddenly did awkward 180 with the incestuous ending. I'm not sure what ben was going for, and I'm not really sure, whether I want to know, but as a whole, it demonstrates what a mixed bag of a story it all was. [3/5]

No incest. The husband was suddenly forced to raise his own wife's young clone with fragmented memories of her own childhood. No blood between them: he's her adopted father now and she has memories of being the person she was, so if they choose to do something when she's older, I don't know. I didn't put that much thought into her future.

The original ending was that there was only one clone in the end and Tim, the husband, was forced to raise the three boys and this young, defective "bad" Mary, who was obviously not mentally there at all. And she was going to wet herself, which to me is a sign of loss of control and lack of brain functions. No humor intended. In fact, the weight on Tim was the original intention. As if cleaning and cooking for these defects that his wife adopts wasn't bad enough, he suddenly has to raise another one. It's the burden she puts on him, which is an unintended side-theme.

Suddenly I realized how Twilight Zone/Stephen King I could make the ending if Mary had a good clone and there were more, many more, of her that were forced on Tim. And she's happy because she's alive and free and her "way" wins in the end: the doctor is dead, she's been "reborn" (the main theme), and she was able to save her own defects.

And that little bit "saving every drop" was a big "fuck you" from her to the audience who, like myself, might empathize with the clinic's destruction of the clones for their own good. I based the character of Mary on Shirley Phelps, the hag like scion of the Westboro Baptist Church - hence the "Godless faggot" line.

Again, the Twilight zone ending.
 

Ashes

Banned
Haha, good call. Thanks for doing those lengthy crits, Ashes! Always appreciated.

Cheers. By the way, several of the crits refer to other stories in the topic; I just wanted I guess to see how authors relate to each comparatively speaking, and that this comparison was sometimes better than actual voting. Though that wasn't why I didn't vote. I was just too tired from work. And I wanted to be as fair to the last story as I was to all the others. The last story being yours of course. :p
 

Alfarif

This picture? uhh I can explain really!
Haha, good call. Thanks for doing those lengthy crits, Ashes! Always appreciated.

Definitely appreciated, Ashes. Looking back, I think you're right about my writing style. I went from trying to emulate Robert Jordan/Terry Goodkind to emulating more along the lines of Brandon Sanderson/James Clemens. Short, to the point, but still with a heavy focus on character. I think what's also helped is doing these challenges and the critiques you guys have given me. This critique especially highlights what I'm good at and what I need to work on.

The call girl or prostitute feels like a remnant of another story, sin city perhaps, but it works very well, and is the second best part of the story.

It's funny that you say that. It was part Sin City, part the Machinist with Christian Bale. Plus, I used to know a girl who was the sweetest thing but fell into a messed up situation. I wanted to kind of bring that feeling into it... to show that Timothy isn't the worst person in the world. He has feelings, but they're kind of disjointed.

Cool -- what's your film about?

Well, since I'm bumping this topic again, mgiht as well lay it out. It's called A Shift of Soldiers and it's a science fiction short film (about 8 minutes) about a girl, Samantha, who sits in a holo-room playing with floating flat screens, bored out of her mind. Time passes and she reads books, watches TV, etc, constantly checking her watch. Then she takes a nap. When she wakes up, the alarms are going off and she jumps up and is fitted with samurai styled armor and a hand cannon to defend against extra-terrestrial invaders coming to Earth.

We filmed it last year as a kind of showcase piece of our VFX/production talent, but it was sitting on the back burner until we finished a bunch of paid gigs first. So we're trying to finish it up in the next two months because we have a 40 minute VFX/compositing heavy film that we're going to be shooting starting in March. Probably won't finish that and put it out until October or November, though.
 

bengraven

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Let me add that I'm also very greatful to Ashes for the nice long critique. It opened my eyes to some things I need to change and also re-evaluated my choice to start writing more to the point and less pretentious, less filler.

Again, thanks a lot Ashes.
 

Grakl

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Wrap up reviews

Terror, by Grakl, is the story of a predator lurking in wait for the hikers[?], and the eventual gobbling up of them. It fails to scare, or even pique mystery because it is something that has been written many a time before, [rather like my own entry to be fair], so I wondered, whether there was something more substantial beneath the fold for the armchair philosopher and their pencil? The iceberg philosophy so to speak. Or was he attempting to show us something different? Or practising prose. I think the latter. The prose reads beautifully and clearly; Grakl is also a poetry thread contributor and that is evident here, in the concise use of imagery to generate the forest like setting, and the nice flowing of the sentences – an inherently good rhythm almost without conscious thought. The terror came and went, and the though the last line was certainly amongst the best last lines this week, it was predictable and so slightly dull. Still, the piece was written really clearly, and though too short, it was a half-decent story. [2.5/3]

Yep yep, thanks very much. I'm aware of the problems that I have whenever I write a story for these threads, and hopefully in the next one I can rectify them. I simply don't have enough time right now to make these all that I want them to be. It really is just practicing prose right now, haha, and I'm just developing my voice since I don't write very often (which I resent!), at the detriment of creating actual characters (or fleshing out the situation, which I shall do for the next challenge). Thanks for the compliments, of course, and even more for the criticisms.
 

Tangent

Member
Well, since I'm bumping this topic again, mgiht as well lay it out. It's called A Shift of Soldiers and it's a science fiction short film (about 8 minutes) about a girl, Samantha, who sits in a holo-room playing with floating flat screens, bored out of her mind. Time passes and she reads books, watches TV, etc, constantly checking her watch. Then she takes a nap. When she wakes up, the alarms are going off and she jumps up and is fitted with samurai styled armor and a hand cannon to defend against extra-terrestrial invaders coming to Earth.

We filmed it last year as a kind of showcase piece of our VFX/production talent, but it was sitting on the back burner until we finished a bunch of paid gigs first. So we're trying to finish it up in the next two months because we have a 40 minute VFX/compositing heavy film that we're going to be shooting starting in March. Probably won't finish that and put it out until October or November, though.

Whoa, that sounds pretty dang awesome. March sounds like it'll be really fun -- through November. Wow, that's great! Keep us posted on how it goes!
 

Alucard

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When is the next challenge? I've started writing short stories this week, and am planning on making it a regular activity. I've written two and a half in the past two weeks, and am feeling pretty proud of myself. The quality may not be spectacular, but I'm just happy to be doing something creative.
 
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