SteveWinwood
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Wheres the review for that rachet and clank game?
You should watch the whole interview.
He just seemed barely able to concentrate long enough to get through the podcast.
I'm really shocked that so many people in the last dozen or so pages don't know who John Davison is or what he's done over the last decade in regards to covering games.
Davison, Mark McDonald and Geoff Keighley are like the three guys I think of who have been covering the industry since the dawn of the internet.
By the way, here's the review Jeff revealed started all the trouble. Sony America was pissed about a 7.5. :lol
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction Review
Dave and Jeff must have made some mad bank on this (I'm assuming Jeff invested in the company). Do we know how much CBS bought them for?
On March 15, 2012, it was announced that CBS Interactive had acquired the Giant Bomb and Comic Vine web sites from Whiskey Media.[12] CBS Interactive is the parent company of CNET, which operates GameSpot. As part of the deal, the non-disparagement agreement between Gerstmann and CNET was nullified, allowing him to finally speak publicly about his termination over four years later. Later that evening on GameSpot's On the Spot web show, GameSpot VP John Davison appeared on camera with Gerstmann, marking Gerstmann's first appearance on the GameSpot web site since November 2007. He explained that the reason for his firing was the result of long-standing tension between the editorial staff and the new marketing staff that had recently been put in place. According to Gerstmann, new marketing staff was in place that wasn't familiar with video game journalism or how to deal with annoyed publishers. He revealed that the problems began after publishing the review for Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction that went live on October 23, 2007. The review was written by Aaron Thomas and scored a 7.5 (good). The publisher, Sony Computer Entertainment America, complained to GameSpot over the score and threatened to pull their advertising money. Gerstmann, as Thomas' boss, was "called into a room" to discuss the review. He said the marketing team freaked out over Sony's threats and didn't understand how to handle threats like that. Tension continued between marketing and editorial, coming to a head after Gerstmann published his review for Kane & Lynch: Dead Men on November 13, 2007 and scored it a 6.0 (fair). His frankness of the game's quality led to the publisher, Eidos Interactive, also threatening to pull their advertising money. At the time of the review going live, the GameSpot home page was covered in ads for Kane & Lynch. Gerstmann said he was once again "called into a room" where he was sternly admonished over the review. After over two weeks of even thicker tension between marketing and editorial, Gerstmann was yet again "called into a room" and was informed he was being fired on November 29, 2007 effective immediately. He said they essentially caved to advertiser pressure despite vehemently claiming they didn't just days after the firing.
On a humorous note, during the show, Gerstmann claimed he ran into a few members of Kane & Lynch developer IO Interactive at a convention a few months after his firing. He claims one of the people he ran into said, "Yeah, Kane & Lynch wasn't a very good game." Gerstmann responded, "You should totally call up my old bosses and tell them that."[13]
From Twitter updates it sounds like Will and Brad are already looking forward to doing another Lantern Run.I think I've rolled around to the acceptance stage. I trust the GB dudes enough. I am still very, deeply cut about no more Tested crossovers though, or at least a highly decreased frequency of such.
I remember a lot of Sony fanboys being pissed, too!
I think I've rolled around to the acceptance stage. I trust the GB dudes enough. I am still very, deeply cut about no more Tested crossovers though, or at least a highly decreased frequency of such.
Vinny yelling out "what's the next endurance run?" during the pancake stream killed me. He always has the best lines.
Seems like kind of a big deal that Gerstmann called out Sony, no?
Meh. I don't think so.Seems like kind of a big deal that Gerstmann called out Sony, no?
How was he calling them out? He was just telling the story.
That's really rad.This should be the new picture in the OP:
In which he named Sony as putting financial pressure on GameSpot over editorial.
Eidos does it and GAF goes berserk, Sony does it and....meh
In which he named Sony as putting financial pressure on GameSpot over editorial.
Eidos does it and GAF goes berserk, Sony does it and....meh
In which he named Sony as putting financial pressure on GameSpot over editorial.
Eidos does it and GAF goes berserk, Sony does it and....meh
Seems like kind of a big deal that Gerstmann called out Sony, no?
I've always thought it's the publisher's prerogative to put pressure on publications for more favorable coverage... And for the publication's to tell them where to shove it.In which he named Sony as putting financial pressure on GameSpot over editorial.
Eidos does it and GAF goes berserk, Sony does it and....meh
It was four years ago. Ancient history in internet terms.
Did we even know Sony did that until today? Most assumed K&L were the problem since that was the last game he reviewed before getting fired.
The point was that the whole industry does it. It's nothing new. Most sites are used to it, and simply deal with it for while.
Gamespot fired Gerstmann because the team handling the money side buckled, where an experienced team did not. There really is no other way to interpret this, I don't see how it needs explaining.
Yes, but it is kind of ironic how Giant Bomb shitted all over the Vita during the live quick look, then just a day or two later the site is smothered in Vita ads.
In which he named Sony as putting financial pressure on GameSpot over editorial.
Eidos does it and GAF goes berserk, Sony does it and....meh
You've got people in this very thread posting that "I STILL don't want to give that piece of shit website any hits" over what happened 4 years ago.It was four years ago. Ancient history in internet terms.
I remember a lot of Sony fanboys being pissed, too!
In which he named Sony as putting financial pressure on GameSpot over editorial.
Eidos does it and GAF goes berserk, Sony does it and....meh
point being?
Norm and Will just sound so excited. Haha.
The publishers hold all the power over these sites. They don't have to support them in anyway. It's always going to look fishy no matter what.
"You see, there's this popular internet message board..."I hope Norm, Will, and Gary attempt to convince the Mythbusters crew to try and apply for GAF accounts.
I hope Norm, Will, and Gary attempt to convince the Mythbusters crew to try and apply for GAF accounts.