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|OT| French Presidential election - 2012 edition
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ComputerMKII
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Here we go.
Jimmies are gonna be rustled.
Edit: Jacques Cheminade got 0.20%.
Jimmies are gonna be rustled.
Edit: Jacques Cheminade got 0.20%.
ComputerMKII
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Jean-François Copé trying to spin the results in Sarkozy's favor, on TF1. Where is the mute button, again?
ComputerMKII
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Updated the OP.
Eva Joly is mad against the National Front.
Eva Joly is mad against the National Front.
ComputerMKII
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Potential votes for Hollande Hollande + Mélenchon + Joly + Poutou + Arthaud = 29.3 + 11 + 2 + 1 + 0.5 = 43.8 %
Potential votes for Sarkozy: Sarkozy + Dupont-Aignan = 26 + 2 = 28 %
Unsure: Bayrou, Le Pen
Irrelevant: Cheminade
Voters of Bayrou may vote either for Hollande or Sarkozy. Voters of Le Pen might equally vote for Sarkozy or not vote. If Sarkozy gets most votes from Bayrou and Le Pen, he might be elected but I wouldn't bet on it.
The thing is that ~half of the FN voters will probably not vote for the 2nd round, so the real game changer will again be Bayrou.
But nothing will be played before next week's debate, Sarkozy will be on full attack mode, Hollande will need to be strong or he will lose the election.
That would probably result in a hung parliament depending upon where the BNP voters would have voted before, then the other parties would be forced to form a coalition against the BNP.
He really is crazy. I mean I consider myself left on the political spectrum, but he is too leftist for even me.
badcrumble
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eh, he's not as bad as Le Pen.
Preparing the field for a future FN UMP alliance in 2017.
Me_Marcadet
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Because he is not racist right?
Smh
Souldriver
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What a colorful post history you have.
Smh at the number of racist fucks this country has.
badcrumble
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France has always had a small but devoted core of fascists; Marine Le Pen is of a political continuity with Pétain.
Alx
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Juste woke up to the results. No real surprise there, it's the order predicted by the polls. Still a bit disappointed though.
The FN has obvious racist undertones, but let's not oversimplify things. It's more a populist party, and there are all kind of people among its voters. I had a discussion with my young cousins a few months ago, and they were saying that they considered voting for LePen because "at least they could understand what she was saying" (they're not very educated, but no less than most of the population). It appeals to people for all kind of reasons : anti-elitist, anti-EU, and of course anti-immigration.
The FN has obvious racist undertones, but let's not oversimplify things. It's more a populist party, and there are all kind of people among its voters. I had a discussion with my young cousins a few months ago, and they were saying that they considered voting for LePen because "at least they could understand what she was saying" (they're not very educated, but no less than most of the population). It appeals to people for all kind of reasons : anti-elitist, anti-EU, and of course anti-immigration.
ComputerMKII
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Communists are certainly known for respecting minorities.
Anyway. Mélenchon and Eva Joly crashed and burn, that's the only good news for today.
Yes, remember how French communists helped deporting jews during WW2.Oh wait that was the fascists.
ComputerMKII
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And the laogai never existed.
Me_Marcadet
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By my post history, I am clearly a racist too am I right?
I just don't like people who spit on other people opinion and democracy.
If you believe there is more than eight millions people who are racist, stupid and dangerous in France, you clearly live in another dimension.
And smh at people saying marine lepen is fascist.. Wtf are wrong with you?
There is nothing in common between the nazis and the fn.
I just don't like people who spit on other people opinion and democracy.
If you believe there is more than eight millions people who are racist, stupid and dangerous in France, you clearly live in another dimension.
And smh at people saying marine lepen is fascist.. Wtf are wrong with you?
There is nothing in common between the nazis and the fn.
Sickboy007
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What's the probability of My Little Pony publicly endorsing Sarkò (or Hollande lolwut social right)? None?
What does that have to do with French communism?
ComputerMKII
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It's you who mentioned French communism, I didn't.
But I have heard more than supporters of Mélenchon saying they would put people's head on a pike. These people are French.
badcrumble
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Let us never forget the mass slaughter of immigrants that happened in 1868 at the hands of the Commune :lol
At least you are admitting to your fallacious argument.
Moundir&Tony>you
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Her father said after the results were published that he wants Sarkozy to lose.
So it's NOT happening.
Me_Marcadet
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So french communists have their hands clean but marine lepen deported Jews and worked with the nazis. Interesting...
ComputerMKII
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Please explain.
On Friday the 27th of January, the anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz concentration camp, the candidate of the French National Front at the presidential election, in response to an invitation from the FPÖ, the Austrian far-right party, attended the most controversial ball in the world, where each year Holocaust deniers receive standing ovations.
Yeah sure
UnluckyKate
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Holy crap at FN ...
Le Pen father tortured Algerians and Le Pen daughter has "enough of Franco-algerians", according to her own words.
badcrumble
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The actions of the Maoist government have absolutely nothing to do with accusations toward Mélenchon.
ComputerMKII
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Aren't all communists in favor of the dictatorship of the proletariat, class struggle and the division of the country between the bourgeois and the revolutionaries?
badcrumble
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Yes, if by 'communists' you mean 'Marxist-Leninists' (a specific flavor of socialism), but I don't see "death camps" on this list.
ComputerMKII
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My point isn't that there are labor camps in France, but that communists do not respect minorities by definition and are always looking for traitors. If Mélenchon were elected, maybe Jews would not be persecuted first but other minorities would.
Sickboy007
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Interesting speech.
Mélenchon (and other left wing candidates embraced diversity and immigration a lot of times during the campaign.
ComputerMKII
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Nadine Morano on TV.
Good, I needed a laugh anyway.
Good, I needed a laugh anyway.
badcrumble
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You're about an inch away from 'The Nazis were actually leftists because they had 'socialist' in the name of the party.' Absurd.
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