Familienoberhauptvogel
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wasn't she always projected to make second round?
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Obama asks the french people to vote for Macron in the presidential election
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wasn't she always projected to make second round?
I can imagine the internal conflict for a certain left audience that went from Socialists to Melanchon and are like "Macron is the worst" but they probably idolize Obama like the savior of humanity.
This is always a cursor problem. The left went pretty extreme this election and Macron is now the worst satan's capitalistic creature when there was way way worse on the right. Yet the republicans still think macron is wayyyyy not on the right enough for them, and some sort of dangerous communist.
Everything is too much on the left or the right for french people now. It's really difficult to have a middle ground moderate path, as it's already seen as some unbearable hell.
This is always a cursor problem. The left went pretty extreme this election and Macron is now the worst satan's capitalistic creature when there was way way worse on the right. Yet the republicans still think macron is wayyyyy not on the right enough for them, and some sort of dangerous communist.
Everything is too much on the left or the right for french people now. It's really difficult to have a middle ground moderate path, as it's already seen as some unbearable hell.
Mass_Pincup
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The "polls" as you said had her leading at the start of the campaign though. The fall she experienced in the polls was represented in the result of the first round as well.
No one questioned that Le Pen was advancing to the second turn, people are actually saying that her result in the first turn was disappointing compared to expectations. She only had a 1% and a 1,8% lead against the third and fourth candidate. It was a bad result for her.
I don't think you really followed the election to be honest.
She completely fucked it up.
The article doesn't seem to convey a bad she did last night. Not answering question and choosing instead to attack Macron, spreading 19 false information as well as spreading a russian hoax concerning an alleged off shore of Macron, confusing industrial cases and this gem (disregard the text, its a unrelated joke).
Lol, what the hell are you talking about? Every poll was giving Le Pen qualifying for 2nd round, she was even leading for a long period of time. We said she had no chance to win the second round, that's a huge difference.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Obama is not left in the grand scale of global political ideologies, he's as centrist as they come.
Lol even some mods fell for it.
Yet french socialists were like "the world is finally saved hallelujah" when he was elected. But more for symbolic reasons of course.
Karsticles
Member
No, it isn't, and I challenge you to argue otherwise.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Well Bush was that shitty so I understand the appeal from a relative starting point
It's not USA getting involved in elections in France. It's Obama the citizen getting involved. And I think many French citizen like him.
hydrophilic attack
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KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Holy shit dude, you quoted his whole post. At least read the second sentence.
I think you have a problem that would impede your ability to argue on a forum.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
You're so full of shit. The polls were clearly pointing to Le Pen making it to the second round for a year+, she made it through by beating two other people by a meager 1.5 percent.
Some of you have such a fetish for disparaging statistics for not being perfect all the time that you're now rewriting history to conform with your narrative.
Obama is what Tony Blair wishes he could have been.
Vyse The Legend
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? I don't see how that changes my comment whatsoever.
iRAWRasaurus
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That's what we said about trump winning.
hydrophilic attack
Member
reading is hard
Vermillion
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This is where we are now... Sad!
sixteen-bit
Member
Damn, just like Hillary
hydrophilic attack
Member
But France doesn't have the world's dumbest election system
Moving on, it actually is sort of nice to see a more international effort combating the worldwide rise in protectionist/nationalist rhetoric. The diehards will see it as meddling but we do need to remind normal people that there's an active component to being part of the global community and at its bare minimum that is voting.
FreedomFighter
Member
Of course he does. So Le Pen will win.
That depends on who wins. If Macron wins, all is well. If Le Pen wins, Russia meddled. It's really that simple. Russians are ex post facto responsible for Brexit too.
LePen literally quoted a russian hoax about macron on last nights debate
Amazing.
Omegasquash
Member
I admit to being fooled. Excellent work, Panda.
Vyse The Legend
Member
My post says I wish I could think in such simple terms (like an alt-right person).
It's wholly irrelevant that his post was satire. Thus, the second sentence doesn't change my comment.
Y'all are thirsty for a "gotcha" moment, huh?
Obama: It was me, I was wikileaks all along.
This is the dumbest post I have seen this month. Congrats!
Edit: Boo, you aren't a name I recognize for this stuff.
My bad for misinterpreting...but nah I couldn't care less about a gotcha moment.
Omegasquash
Member
This would not surprise me in the least.
I rarely saw such an uninformed post. Which doesn't even seem to be ideologically motivated. Just unadulterated ignorance.
FreedomFighter
Member
Didnt Trump already say something in support of Le Pen or am l mistaken?
"I love France. I really do. I ate french fries yesterday.
I support Mary El Pen for president.
From what I've heard on cable TV, while working very hard, she's tremendous. See, I know some french.
She's gonne be great. I can't wait to see her at Mar-a-lago. She's gonna love it."
You might have just won GAF>Internet>GAF through satire, panda.
Vyse The Legend
Member
Wow. You got his speech down perfectly. Amazing.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
The only reason Trump hasn't done all that already because he's worried she will lose. He only jumps on the bandwagon when it looks like he can take credit for something.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
France, unlike the US, actually cares about its democratic systems and principles.
Perfect Blue
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That would lose her the election instantly lol
We already have links between her party financement and Russia, there was no need for her to win to find them.
Intellectually, I can acknowledge that this is a good post.
Emotionally, though, that second line might as well not exist. Too real, man.