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Macron Campaign Emails Hacked and Posted Online

digdug2k

Member
Do people just have an inherent belief that every campaign is doing incriminating stuff and openly e-mailing about it?
I think they just think that about the "other guys" campaign.

It's fucking dumb. If you find someone doing something illegal, by all means whistleblow on them. I you just downloaded a bunch of stolen shit with nothing in it, turn yourself in and go to jail. You failed.
 

Pedrito

Member
It's the wikileaks effect.

Dump gigabytes of data on the web, create a catchy hashtag and hope no one bothers looking at what's really in there and you can make anyone look nefarious.
 

iddqd

Member
This is an interesting dilemma where a media organization, by combing through those emails and possibly finding dirt, makes itself somewhat of an accomplice to whoever hacked and leaked them in the first place.
- Report on it and help the bad guys get another bad guy elected
- Not report on it and ignore news and possible wrong doing by the hacked party.

FUN TIMES
 

sikkinixx

Member
Russia continues to suck. News at 11.

I hope this doesn't lead to Le Pen getting in. The last thing the world needs is another piece of shit like her getting into power.
 

20cent

Banned
It is SO WEIRD this keeps happening to candidates who are running against far right candidates. Just like, SO WEIRD.

It's so weird that the story about Fillon's wife came out when the Democrats knew they had no chance against him when the candidate they expected to win the primaries didn't. So they could focus all their resources and convert their allegiances to Macron who is the total opposite of French socialist values, because they knew that Melenchon wouldn't give any single of them a seat at the government while being the closest to the historical French left.
They picked Macron and gave up on their official runner (Hamon) months before the elections btw because they knew he had no chance. Talk about beliefs...
 

AngryMoth

Member
If this ends up being linked to Russia I feel like the western world needs to massively increase the sanctions against them. We can't just sit by and let them continue to fuck with our elections.
 
It's so weird that the story about Fillon's wife came out when the Democrats knew they had no chance against him when the candidate they expected to win the primaries didn't. So they could focus all their resources and convert their allegiances to Macron who is the total opposite of French socialist values, because they knew that Melenchon wouldn't give any single of them a seat at the government while being the closest to the historical French left.

Am I supposed to understand this incoherent rambling?
 

20cent

Banned
Am I supposed to understand this incoherent rambling?
You blame Russia (hello cold war) without anything backing it up. This hacking won't change anyone's mind. Especially 2 days before the election. We are talking about French elections, people here have political beliefs and education. They don't make their mind up based on one TV channel telling them what to think nor from a video-game forum.

They conveniently found something about a candidate (Fillon) who had chances to beat the socialists (Macron had no chance at that time) and no one find this suspicious. Macron has always have been supported by Hollande to create his party etc while they should be completely in opposition in terms of ideology.

Sorry I am not a native English speaker. This is racist to mock me by replying my message about the fact that you don't understand it.
 

mo60

Member
You blame Russia (hello cold war) without anything backing it up. This hacking won't change anyone's mind. Especially 2 days before the election. We are talking about French elections, people here have political beliefs and education. They don't make their mind up based on one TV channel telling them what to think nor from a video-game forum.

They conveniently found something about a candidate (Fillon) who had chances to beat the socialists (Macron had no chance at that time) and no one find this suspicious. Macron has always have been supported by Hollande to create his party etc while they should be completely in opposition in terms of ideology.

Sorry I am not a native English speaker. This is racist to mock me by replying me about the fact that you don't understand it.
Um. Fillon was always in danger of having skeletons in his closet because the main center right political party under various political party names has been involved in scandals in the last decade or two.There was always a chance something would pop up that killed his campaign.
 

Afrodium

Banned
Has anything seriously incriminating been found?

Similar to the reopening of the investigation into Hillary's emails just before the election, the mere existence of a story like this could be enough to affect the vote. Whether or not anything incriminating is found could be irrelevant. We'll know soon enough.
 
Sorry I am not a native English speaker. This is racist to mock me by replying my message about the fact that you don't understand it.

Or it could be that you were posting some conspiratorial theory and bouncing all over the place in your reasoning.

Similar to the reopening of the investigation into Hillary's emails just before the election, the mere existence of a story like this could be enough to affect the vote. Whether or not anything incriminating is found could be irrelevant. We'll know soon enough.

You're comparing the reopening of an FBI investigation by the Director of the FBI with someone posting a bunch of data on the internet?
 

mo60

Member
Similar to the reopening of the investigation into Hillary's emails just before the election, the mere existence of a story like this could be enough to affect the vote. Whether or not anything incriminating is found could be irrelevant. We'll know soon enough.

How are french people going to hear about this besides the ones that use social media since no one in france is covering the election in the next day or so
 

Pedrito

Member
14 Macron threads on the front page of T_D. Good on them for opening up to the world!

the desperation...
 

mo60

Member
14 Macron threads on the front page of T_D. Good on them for opening up to the world!

the desperation...

They have been posting threads on Macron for ages now. They are just more active in their thread creation now since the election is close.Sunday will be fun on r/the_donald
 

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
Yeah grey hats have been very quiet lately outside of the Panama papers.
It's hard to expect an independent hacker to commit such a high profile crime, a lone hacker is a lot easier to prosecute than Russia is. We live in a world where they're trying to send someone to prison for laughing, I totally understand why nobody wants to jump on that grenade.
 

hawk2025

Member
You blame Russia (hello cold war) without anything backing it up. This hacking won't change anyone's mind. Especially 2 days before the election. We are talking about French elections, people here have political beliefs and education. They don't make their mind up based on one TV channel telling them what to think nor from a video-game forum.

They conveniently found something about a candidate (Fillon) who had chances to beat the socialists (Macron had no chance at that time) and no one find this suspicious. Macron has always have been supported by Hollande to create his party etc while they should be completely in opposition in terms of ideology.

Sorry I am not a native English speaker. This is racist to mock me by replying my message about the fact that you don't understand it.


Fucking please. Around 40% of the country will vote for a blatant racist.

Congratulations, you are a few percentage points better than the US.
 

Jedi2016

Member
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Glix

Member
It's so weird that the story about Fillon's wife came out when the Democrats knew they had no chance against him when the candidate they expected to win the primaries didn't. So they could focus all their resources and convert their allegiances to Macron who is the total opposite of French socialist values, because they knew that Melenchon wouldn't give any single of them a seat at the government while being the closest to the historical French left.
They picked Macron and gave up on their official runner (Hamon) months before the elections btw because they knew he had no chance. Talk about beliefs...

Oh so France has their Bernie bros too?

SO WEIRD
 
Remain and Leave were basically tied. Anything could've happened. It was on us for not realizing that Leave was a real possibility given the polling.

Hillary ended up winning the popular vote, and the national polls were pretty decent, and 538 gave Trump a 30% chance of winning. A late swing near the end probably wasn't captured by the polls but she was only up by a few points which makes a polling swing towards your opponent more dramatic.

This is nothing like those situations. Macron is up by over 20 points. It's annoying to have people say this without any context. The French polls were also nearly perfect in the first round.

This exactly. The idea that polls are useless because they have failed before is stupid. It's clear that polling is not an exact science, but people need to understand that in both the Brexit referendum and the US election the polling did not give a clear advantage to the Remain or the Clinton campaign. A 30% chance for Trump is not negligible at all. Besides, a US election is much harder to predict given that the vote is done on state lines, Trump won despite trailing heavily in the national vote. In France it's easier given the winner of the popular vote wins the election
 

Mael

Member
You blame Russia (hello cold war) without anything backing it up. This hacking won't change anyone's mind. Especially 2 days before the election. We are talking about French elections, people here have political beliefs and education. They don't make their mind up based on one TV channel telling them what to think nor from a video-game forum.

They conveniently found something about a candidate (Fillon) who had chances to beat the socialists (Macron had no chance at that time) and no one find this suspicious. Macron has always have been supported by Hollande to create his party etc while they should be completely in opposition in terms of ideology.

Sorry I am not a native English speaker. This is racist to mock me by replying my message about the fact that you don't understand it.

Considering your knowledge of the matter it's either your 1st election or you're clearly not French.
 
Yeah grey hats have been very quiet lately outside of the Panama papers.

Well, if anything, Grey Hats have the highest propensity for being vanished unexpectedly.

Panama Papers were very... inconvenient to some very powerful individuals.

These black-hats have the backing of a state and not enough brains to realize they'll be vanished if Putin thinks they're about to be compromised.
 
By now it is known to everyone on Earth except Trump's base that the Russians did in fact leak information to influence the election. Given that, is there a single French voter who will not see this sad, desperate, 11th hour ploy for what it is? This shit ain't gonna sway anyone.
 

mo60

Member
By now it is known to everyone on Earth except Trump's base that the Russians did in fact leak information to influence the election. Given that, is there a single French voter who will not see this sad, desperate, 11th hour ploy for what it is? This shit ain't gonna sway anyone.

Like no one is covering this in france right now so it's very unlikely to influence the vote their now.
 
By now it is known to everyone on Earth except Trump's base that the Russians did in fact leak information to influence the election. Given that, is there a single French voter who will not see this sad, desperate, 11th hour ploy for what it is? This shit ain't gonna sway anyone.

It's gotten worse since last time, they are slipping in fake stuff into the mix. It's likely why WL didn't release it, they have some hilarious standard of credibility they think they uphold.
 

Dmented

Banned
Like no one is covering this in france right now so it's very unlikely to influence the vote their now.

Good. Besides, you'd have to figure with all the bullshit that happened in the US with the emails that the French would instantly understand what is going on and not be fooled by that shit. Fucking pathetic attempt Russians.
 

mo60

Member
Good. Besides, you'd have to figure with all the bullshit that happened in the US with the emails that the French would instantly understand what is going on and not be fooled by that shit. Fucking pathetic attempt Russians.

Non french media is not going to even bother to cover the contents of the leak at this point either to.
 
Like no one is covering this in france right now so it's very unlikely to influence the vote their now.
Well, the media are reporting on the fact that this happened and was propagated by far right circles, with a particular last minute push by FN officials. I'm not sure this will benefit them.

The electoral watchdog reminded every media that they should be very careful in their reporting of leaked documents, though.
 

KonradLaw

Member
Lol. Russia must be getting desperate after their entire push to Le Pen has utterly failed. Macron is the worst candidate from Russia's perspective (pro-EU, pro-sanctions) and it's too late now to change the outcome of the ellection, no matter what they do.
 
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