Blur DLC, then?
Hm... that could be good! I'm afraid the Bizarre of old has become too splintered, though. I'm not sure how many of the old PGR/Blur teams are clustered, but I know there's a few in Lucid and some others in Playground. Maybe Lucid will get subcontracted (or something) by PG to work on a new PGR title!That looked fantastic.
Bizarre.
Even though I doubt they'll make anymore console games, they do seem to be hinting at a racing game:
That's the thing I love about it. It feels sim-ish without feeling dumbed down at all. Sort of like what the more recent NFS games try and pull off (but IMO fail due to way-too-arcadey drift mechanics).
I'm incredibly sad Bizzare is gone. Mainly because PGR is gone, and the other is that Geometry wars is gone too
God damnit Activision. fuck
If Microsoft was smart, they would do their best to round up old Bizarre staff and re-create the studio for PGR5 as a 720 launch title.
I think a Playground Games feat. Lucid would probably cover most of it. The key people you'd be missing out on would be Gareth Wilson who's at Sumo and Nick Wiswell, who's now the main audio guy at T10.
I'm incredibly sad Bizzare is gone. Mainly because PGR is gone, and the other is that Geometry wars is gone too
This thread has all been worth it
Pretty much. There's definitely some of the "spirit" of PGR in there, but PGR was almost entirely about racing through cities... hence the "Gotham" (and previously, "Metropolis") reference in the title. It's cool to race around those roads in faux-Colorado, but there's no thrill of whizzing past landmarks down the smallest of laneways in a tightly-packed city. The closest is probably Most Wanted, but it's very much been cartooned up with powerups, police and the driving model which just feels *too* arcadey. If they could do the Horizon driving model (or even something closer to PGR4, but I'd settle for the Horizon one) set out in cities that offer enough variance to still feel civilised yet different enough from each other (the location selection in 4 was *perfect*) then I'd be happy. And no stupid metagame outside of it where you're trying to be the baddest dude in the league or some shit like that. A simple points table and faux-calendar (a la PGR4) is fine, coupled with the MP component of PGR2.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54878
From what I can remember, the texture streaming method/tech used in PGR4 (and possibly 3) was quite unique at the time because it meant that they weren't restricted by the amount of textures over the entire track, just the ones on the screen (and to allow for *some* read-ahead as well, obviously). The other kind of revolutionary thing they did (though I doubt they were the first, just the first well known dev, I guess) was using the to-be-discarded frame buffer (that was one frame old, but hardly redundant) for reflections on the car, which is how they achieved such a high level of detail with it compared to other games (I think even GT5 didn't use this, but correct me if I'm wrong... I think they opted for "true" reflections, but at a ridiculously low resolution). I have a feeling Turn 10 even borrowed this idea for Forza 3 onwards (maybe even 2).
Haha! You'll need to take up whatever issue you have with my post with David Jefferies; I thought his logic on 30fps vs 60fps was clear enough.
I just watched that video then. With the off-screen camera slightly muting (or exaggerating) the colours and the fact that YouTube only shows video at 30fps, you really would be forgiven for thinking that was real life. At least, watching it in the smaller window of the browser (and not full screen in HD).
I disagree. If you consider arcade racers such as Outrun 2006, Ridge Racer, Split Second and so on, it's easy to see why PGR can be considered sim-arcade. It's definitely not at the Forza/GT end of things but it's certainly not at the Outrun 2006, etc end of things. So if it sits in the middle, it has to be sim-arcade.
I didn't say it was a replacement, merely a spiritual successor.
Yup, FH is the best racer this gen. It's so fucking good!
i consider forza and gt to be simcade, pgr to be arcade and outrun to be a joke
Those kudos races and the cone races were the biggest bitches ever. About the only main fault I can think of with that system, is that you got the same kind of award points for a superbly taken corner (as in, at high speed, hitting the apex) as you do for fishtailing and braking. If there was, say, a "style" kudos and "hoon" kudos, it'd work MUCH better.
No invisible walls. There are shitloads of walls, just that they're all visible. And pretty much all your points apply perfectly for PGR4 as well
PGR couldn't be considered "arcade" because the very definition of it is a game like what you'd see in an arcade. Other than F355, the others that were mentioned *are* arcade. Perhaps "casual" is a better term, or at least another we can use? So we have:
Coming from TDU1/2 though... I was surprised how open it wasn't
Yeah, but those two games suck massively. The handing in those games is abysmal. As are the graphics. And sound effects. And everything else that matters!Coming from TDU1/2 though... I was surprised how open it wasn't
'Oh yeah!' as Randy Savage would say. The cone races could be very evil however the sense of satisfaction of clearing them was epic. What I love about the physics in PGR is the cars often needed to be driven in a realistic way in order to succeed at the highest difficulty levels. This meant braking for hairpins, using correct lines though corners but you could also choose to use the handbrake to elicit slides, poweslide as long as you liked and generally act like an idiot whenever you felt like it.
Wait... mods? I'd never thought to check if it was even released on PC at all. Will have to hunt it down for sure. I enjoyed what I played of it on 360, but never really put as much time into it as I wanted. Are there mods for other things as well (such as missions, handling/physics etc.) or is it really only the car mods that you need?
It should be... I haven't had to look it up for a while, but it wouldn't have been more than a few months ago I last stumbled across the Blur forum area on there.
its a much better game on PC, not sure about missions and that stuff but there are plenty of car and sound mods from here http://forum.turboduck.net/forums/75-Vehicle-Models. also wheel support is pretty limited but i got mine to work so hopefully it will be ok
