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Person of Interest |S2 OT| Not For The Weak-Kneed

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this show. That gif post perfectly sums up my feelings/reactions as well.

Edit: Also, some good music in this episode from the main soundtrack.
 

Leeness

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THAT ENDING

GO AWAY
 

trinest

Member
I'm glad old bud didn't take John hostage or something and stretched it out over episodes I was just thinking "sigh", though it did feel a bit flat that scene.
 

Wiktor

Member
The way this shows mixes procedural episodes with long arc is absolutely brilliant. It's on completely different level to anything ever done before.

Also..dat ending...wow.
 

excaliburps

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John and Zoe hooking up! Who would have thunk??!

So, we have Zoe, Kara and Root as eye-candy? Me likey! :D

Can't wait for next week! Jonathan Nolan will be handling that one, right? I expect it will be BIG.
 

tirminyl

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John and Zoe hooking up! Who would have thunk??!

So, we have Zoe, Kara and Root as eye-candy? Me likey! :D

Can't wait for next week! Jonathan Nolan will be handling that one, right? I expect it will be BIG.


I don't think Kara can classify as eye candy anymore....eye sore maybe.
 
The way this shows mixes procedural episodes with long arc is absolutely brilliant. It's on completely different level to anything ever done before.

Also..dat ending...wow.

Seriously. I think this is the best long arc series on U.S. television since Whedon's run with Buffy & Angel, and yet they fit those elements in seamlessly with the procedural. It never feels forced.
 

adelante

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I think it helps that they have more than one antagonist (root, HR, Elias, Kara, etc) and an intriguing flashback story (Ingram), plenty of characters to delve into, all of whom have a place in the long arc
 

excaliburps

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I don't think Kara can classify as eye candy anymore....eye sore maybe.

I'd do her in a heartbeat. She has that cougar thing going on with the attitude to match. XD

Seeing as John and Finch has a ton of enemies, whom do you guys predict will be the main baddie for the season ender? Don't tell me it's going to be Root again?!
 

Nobility

Banned
I'd do her in a heartbeat. She has that cougar thing going on with the attitude to match. XD

Seeing as John and Finch has a ton of enemies, whom do you guys predict will be the main baddie for the season ender? Don't tell me it's going to be Root again?!

The man/organization that turned Kara against the machine is my feeling for the finale.
 

Apoc29

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I love how Fusco continues to randomly be a badass. Also Finch sticking it to the hotel manager by recommending an outside restaurant. I was high-fiving him in my heart.
 

Niraj

I shot people I like more for less.
Great episode. Loved the twist at the end (and John being a player). The kitchen fight was awesome too.
 
What a fucking AWESOME episode. I think someone called the secretary being Root like... months ago, great call. So many things about this episode twisting and turning in my head. Fusco being baller as usual. John being badass. The moment with Finch sticking it to the manager was awesome. Knife fight with Hersh. Wonder if that moment of mercy will come back into play. Again, DAT ENDING. Suit skirt is a good look for Root. Got my engine revving. Zoe + John, nice.

The part with Carter and Beecher was meh... but it brought the HR stuff back into play, so then it became interesting.

So fucking good.

So I was enjoying this episode and then my spider sense went off when I heard the secretary. I was like:

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Then she started walking in

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The camera panned up to reveal her. I was like

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Then the episode ended...so I tried to fast forward time by speeding up the earth

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I failed

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Great episode! This show continues to leave me wanting more and NEVER lets me down.

This perfectly encapsulates my emotions for that ending.


BRING IT ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sooooo good the new ep :D

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Such a badass shot.

This show.

Next week is Sarah Shahi!
 
Holy shit guys. The blue flashes in the Machine. They're code.

http://personofinterest.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Embedded_Codes

This category page summarizes all pages pertaining to flash frames of code embedded in the video-link view of the Machine.
They may be attributed to the fact that the employer of Kara Stanton, Greer, uploaded a virus into the very internet, potentially in an attempt to track the Machine, hi-jack or shut down. ("Dead Reckoning")

The first three embedded codes appeared in the episode "One Percent".

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This is text, converted into ASCII hexadecimal, with A-F replaced with Greek letters. The mapping from Latin letters to Greek letters is as follows:
A == Omega (Ω)
B == Pi (Π)
C == Gamma (Γ)
D == Delta (Δ)
E == Xi (Ξ)
F == Phi (Φ)

20 20 20 4c 61 64 79 20 4d 2e 20 20 4f 75 74 2c 20 64 61 6d 6e 65 64 20 73 70 6f 74 21 20 6f 75 74 2c 20 49 20 73 61 79 21 20 4f 6e 65 3b 20 74 77 6f 3a 20 77 68 79 2c 20 74 68 65 6e 2c 20 27 74 69 73 20 74 69 6d 65 20 74 6f 20 64 6f 20 27 74 2e 20 48 65 6c 6c 20 69 73 20 6d 75 72 6b 79 21 20 46 69 65 2c 20 6d 79 20 6c 6f 72 64 2c 20 66 69 65 21 20 61 20 73 6f 6c 64 69 65 72 2c 20 61 6e 64 20 61 66 65 61 72 64 3f 20 57 68 61 74 20 6e 65 65 64 20 77 65 20 66 65 61 72 20 77 68 6f 20 6b 6e 6f 77 73 20 69 74 2c 20 77 68 65 6e 20 6e 6f 6e 65 20 63 61 6e 20 63 61 6c 6c 20 6f 75 72 20 70 6f 77 65 72 20 74 6f 20 61 63 63 6f 75 6e 74 3f 20 59 65 74 20 77 68 6f 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 68 61 76 65 20 74 68 6f 75 67 68 74 20 74 68 65 20 6f 6c 64 20 6d 61 6e 20 74 6f 20 68 61 76 65 20 68 61 64 20 73 6f 20 6d 75 63 68 20 62 6c 6f 6f 64 20 69 6e 20 68 69 6d 3f 09 0d 0a 20 20...


Converted back into text, this is (not a complete conversion):
Lady M. Out, damned spot! out, I say! One; two: why, then, ’tis time to do ’t. Hell is murky! Fie, my lord, fie! a soldier, and afeard? What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our power to account? Yet who would have thought the old man to have had so much blood in him? ...

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42 49 4e 20 4c 41 44 45 4e 20 44 45 54 45 52 4d 49 4e 45 44 20 54 4f 20 53 54 52 49 4b 45 20 49 4e 20 55 53 0d 0a 0d 0a 0d 0a 0d 0a 41 75 67 75 73 74 20 36 2c 20 32 30 30 31 0d 0q 0d 0a 0d 0a 0d 0a 41 66 74 65 72 20 55 2e 53 2e 20 6d 69 73 73 69 6c 65 20 73 74 72 69 6b 65 73 20 6f 6e 20 68 69 73 20 62 61 73 65 20 69 6e 20 41 66 67 68 61 6e 69 73 74 61 6e 20 69 6e 20 31 39 39 38 2c 20 62 69 6e 20 4c 61 64 65 6e 20 74 6f 6c 64 20 66 6f 6c 6c 6f 77 65 72 73 20 68 65 20 77 61 6e 74 65 64 20 74 6f 20 72 65 74 61 6c 69 61 74 65 20 69 6e 20 57 61 73 68 69 6e 67 74 6f 6e 2c 20 61 63 63 6f 72 64 69 6e 67 20 74 6f 20 61 20 2d 2d 20 2d 2d 20 73 65 72 77 66 93 65 2e 0d 0a 0d 0a ...


Converted back into text, this is (not a complete conversion):
BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN US August 6 2001. After U.S. missile strikes oh his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a -- -- service ...

One would assume that this text was copied from a transcript of the August 6, 2001, presidential daily briefing, likely from the online version posted by CNN.

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41 6e 64 20 49 20 68 65 61 72 64 20 61 20 67 72 65 61 74 20 76 6f 69 63 65 20 6f 75 74 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 74 65 6d 70 6c 65 20 73 61 79 69 6e 67 20 74 6f 20 74 68 65 20 73 65 76 65 6e 20 61 6e 67 65 6c 73 2c 20 47 6f 20 79 6f 75 72 20 77 61 79 73 2c 20 61 6e 64 20 70 6f 75 72 20 6f 75 74 20 74 68 65 20 76 69 61 6c 73 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 77 72 61 74 68 20 6f 66 20 47 6f 64 20 75 70 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 20 65 61 72 74 68 2e 0d 0a 41 6e 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 69 72 73 74 20 77 65 6e 74 2c 20 61 6e 64 20 70 6f 75 72 65 64 20 6f 75 74 20 68 69 73 20 76 69 61 6c 20 75 70 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 20 65 61 72 74 68 3b 20 61 6e 64 20 74 68 65 72 65 20 66 65 6c 6c 20 61 20 6e 6f 69 73 6f 6d 65 20 61 6e 20 67 72 69 65 76 6f 75 73 20 73 6f 72 65 20 75 70 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 20 6d 65 6e 20 77 68 69 63 68 20 68 61 64 20 74 68 65 20 6d 61 72 6b 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 62 65 61 73 74 2c 20 61 6e 64 20 75 70 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 6d 20 77 68 69 63 68 20 77 6f 72 73 68 69 70 70 65 64 20 68 69 73 20 69 6d 61 67 65 2e ...

Converted back into text, this is (not a complete conversion):
And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image ...

As this website was used for the text present in the very first "blue screen", it is reasonable to conclude that this text was copied from the Bartleby.com version of Revelation 16, KJV.

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54 79 70 65 73 20 6f 66 20 43 57 20 41 67 65 6e 74 73 0d 0a 0d 0a 20 20 20 20 43 68 6f 6b 69 6e 67 20 61 67 65 6e 74 73 20 61 72 65 20 74 68 65 20 6f 6c 64 65 73 74 20 43 57 70 61 67 65 6e 74 73 2e 20 54 68 69 73 20 63 6c 61 73 73 20 69 6e 63 6c 75 64 65 73 20 63 68 6c 6f 72 69 6e 65 20 61 6e 64 20 70 68 6f 73 67 65 6e 65 2c 20 66 69 72 73 74 20 75 73 65 64 20 69 6e 20 57 6f 72 6c 64 20 57 61 72 20 49 2e 20 54 68 65 73 65 20 61 67 65 6e 74 73 20 68 61 76 65 20 61 20 63 6f 72 72 6f 73 69 76 65 20 65 66 66 65 63 74 20 6f 6e 07 46 86 50 72 65 73 70 69 72 61 74 6f 72 79 20 73 79 73 74 65 6d 20 74 68 61 74 20 63 61 75 73 65 73 20 74 68 65 20 6c 75 6e 67 73 20 74 6f 20 66 69 6c 6c 20 77 69 74 68 20 77 61 74 65 72 20 61 6e 64 20 63 68 6f 6b 65 20 74 68 65 20 76 69 63 74 69 6d 2e ...

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Types of CW Agents. Choking agents are the oldest CW agents. This class includes chlorine and phosgene, first used in World War I. These agents have a corrosive effect on the respiratory system that causes the lungs to fill with water and choke the victim ...

One would assume that this text was copied from the CIA.gov webpage concerning chemical agents and their role in "the continuing threat from weapons of mass destruction".

Speculation

It seems likely that all three are connected. Potentially, it could be a reference back to Code 01 involving the "disease" infecting Lady Macbeth, or the focus on blood.
Revelation: "And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea. And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood."

CW Agents: "Blister agents are used to cause medical casualties; they affect the eyes and lungs and blister the skin. ... Blood agents are absorbed into the body primarily by breathing; they prevent the normal utilization of oxygen by the cells and cause rapid damage to body tissues. ... G-series nerve agents, developed in the 1930s, cause paralysis of the respiratory musculature and subsequent death, in sufficient concentration."
Alternatively, the four codes could be linked in a reference to the enacting of some deity's vengeance upon mankind for its misdeeds.

Even in Revelation, the people are said to have "blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds" which concurs with Lady Macbeth's concern with removing the guilt she feels rather than repent, saying "What’s done cannot be undone. To bed, to bed, to bed."

HOLY SHIT, GUYS.

What the fuck are the bad guys planning? Massive chemical terror strike?

Shit just got real.

Lady M. Out, damned spot! out, I say! One; two: why, then, ’tis time to do ’t. Hell is murky! Fie, my lord, fie! a soldier, and afeard? What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our power to account? Yet who would have thought the old man to have had so much blood in him? ...

BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN US August 6 2001. After U.S. missile strikes oh his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a -- -- service ...

And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image ...

Types of CW Agents. Choking agents are the oldest CW agents. This class includes chlorine and phosgene, first used in World War I. These agents have a corrosive effect on the respiratory system that causes the lungs to fill with water and choke the victim ...

I think we're counting down a chemical warfare/Armageddon scenario. Shakespeare, biblical references, chemical warfare handbooks, and bin Laden?

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GlassBox

Banned
Fusco is so goddamn boss! Need a gif of him easily taking out those hit men.

I love how this show has better writing than most movies.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
need to rewatch these last 2 shows again, must have somehow not seen these blue screen flashes. Are they coming during the "after commercial break" zoom ins?
 

Lonestar

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Well, we knew that this upload had something to do with the Machine. Question was, is it to take it over, to find out "where" it is, or (as I think) to blind it to something that's going to happen (meaning someone knows it's out there and what it's purpose is, to identify large threats)
 
Well, we knew that this upload had something to do with the Machine. Question was, is it to take it over, to find out "where" it is, or (as I think) to blind it to something that's going to happen (meaning someone knows it's out there and what it's purpose is, to identify large threats)

I'm inclined to agree with the latter since the embedded quote refers to destruction and chemical warfare. Whoever is responsible seems to wanna prevent it from responding by crippling it.

OH MAN

When I saw Root again I almost fainted. SHE'S SO SEXY GODDAMN

FUCK YES.


Lionel's so awesome.
 

Nobility

Banned
A fascinating article from the AV Club that is well worth a read, my POI-GAF bros:

How Person of Interest captures the national post-9/11 mood
Thank you very much, sums up my feelings about POI and how life is portrayed after 9/11 to the letter.

The fact is, 24 became a show that justified its actions because of 9/11. Though it was never intended to start out that way, 9/11 changed everything and we looked to 24 to convey our societal feelings. I know I was pumped up every time a new 24 episode was about to air, almost as if Jack embodied what it takes to protect against hostile threats, essentially by any means necessary.

I think why POI grabbed me was because I knew 24 was unrealistic when looking in the long term. I will never forget when Jack said during an early S7 episode that the world was changing and we are held accountable to our people for our actions. I think their writers knew that this show emphasized it's fine to torture or threaten in order to protect our way of life and even worse, politicians/governments was very receptive to the idea.

POI does consider the long term murkiness that no one talks about; this show demonstrates the consequences to short term devastating decisions made after a tragedy has occurred. Reese and Finch are never certain of their actions and constantly monitor their decisions to consider ethics, morals and values. POI will be remembered in future generations I think not for its memorable storytelling but how it reflects the mood of Americans after 9/11 and how it warns its audience that everyone is held accountable to what actions have been performed for the greater good.

After all, Finch did say in the pilot that the decisions they will make would never be acceptable to outsiders and it is very likely they will probably end up dead.

If I have to think of the primary reason why everyone should watch POI, it's for the show's ability to demonstrate the ramification of a single action.
 

ScRYeD

Member
Root, Finch and Reece join forces to take care of the virus/code introduced by Kara and associates for the season finale.

Im calling it.
 

Lonestar

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My guess: The virus blocks the Relevant List, from whatever they're planning on doing. The Machine realizes this, and decides to put the info on the irrelevant list, as it's the only way to warn someone.

Finch and Reece, Saving the World.
 

Nobility

Banned
I like this theory but I have a feeling that Root will help. Though she wants to capitalize on its potential, she understands what happens if the machine is left in the wrong hands...well, at least anyone besides her or Finch.
 

Lonestar

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yeah, if it's some sort of massive amount of evildom, then POI INC. will need all the help it can get.
 
Root helping Finch and Reese sounds interesting, maybe Reese even gets to tap it lol.

But seriously, I don't think Root working with Reese and Finch would happen. Her previous crimes are just too evil/sinister for Reese and Finch to even consider working with her.
 

Nobility

Banned
Root helping Finch and Reese sounds interesting, maybe Reese even gets to tap it lol.

But seriously, I don't think Root working with Reese and Finch would happen. Her previous crimes are just too evil/sinister for Reese and Finch to even consider working with her.

The necessary evil.

Terrorist attack trumps murder...just sayin'.
 

Wiktor

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Root helping Finch and Reese sounds interesting, maybe Reese even gets to tap it lol.

But seriously, I don't think Root working with Reese and Finch would happen. Her previous crimes are just too evil/sinister for Reese and Finch to even consider working with her.

They have no problem working with Elias. If it will be necessary I don't think any of them will hesitate to do whatever it takes
 
I like this theory but I have a feeling that Root will help. Though she wants to capitalize on its potential, she understands what happens if the machine is left in the wrong hands...well, at least anyone besides her or Finch.

She will double-cross the fuck out of them the second the threat is neutralized.

Root helping Finch and Reese sounds interesting, maybe Reese even gets to tap it lol.

If anything, Finch would tap that. Root's so nutty about him and his Machine, she probably doodles his name in hearts all over the wall while naked and covered in wires and cables.

But seriously, I don't think Root working with Reese and Finch would happen. Her previous crimes are just too evil/sinister for Reese and Finch to even consider working with her.

More heinous than Elias? Dude threatened to murder a baby by freezing it to death and he systematically murdered off the Russian and Italian crime families. Took Carter's kid hostage. What'd Root do? Frame an innocent man, murder a politician, kidnap Finch, poison a lady (non-fatally), kill a dude (who tried to kill Finch) after torturing him, threatened to murder innocent people, and...

Well, okay, it's kind of a crapshoot.

They have no problem working with Elias. If it will be necessary I don't think any of them will hesitate to do whatever it takes

Pretty much. Besides, Root actually seems to be nuts about Finch (non-romantically, but still, she actually respects him and likes him a ton, much like Elias to John).
 

Lonestar

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More heinous than Elias? Dude threatened to murder a baby by freezing it to death and he systematically murdered off the Russian and Italian crime families. Took Carter's kid hostage. What'd Root do? Frame an innocent man, murder a politician, kidnap Finch, poison a lady (non-fatally), kill a dude (who tried to kill Finch) after torturing him, threatened to murder innocent people, and...

Murdered Alicia Corwin, who didn't even see it coming.
 
My guess: The virus blocks the Relevant List, from whatever they're planning on doing. The Machine realizes this, and decides to put the info on the irrelevant list, as it's the only way to warn someone.

Finch and Reece, Saving the World.

My problem with this theory is that the only shot we had of jonathan nolans uncle from inside the machine was with a white box, showing that he didnt know about the machine as late as 2011. its possible he learned about in 2011 or 2012 though.
 
Murdered Alicia Corwin, who didn't even see it coming.

Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Also had that guy who killed her friend murdered by drug dealers, but I'll let that go cause he was a monster who had it coming.

Hm. Root and Elias should hook up. That'd be hilarious. She also hired the actor to frame him as a psycho and Reese could have easily fucked him up.
 
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