InterMoniker
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That's an understatement ugghhhhhKittonwy said:
I guess we got to wait for either Sony's gamer day or E3.
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SOCOM Confrontation - The thread (bringing back the REAL!)
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I guess we got to wait for either Sony's gamer day or E3.
I can understand Andokuky's frustration. This game has gone far too long without showing people any type of visuals or detailed info. And when you consider that this was just supposed to be a "little" PSn downloadable game that was essentially supposed to tide over gamers until Socom 4 hit it's even more disappointing that nothing has come out. I stopped following this game closely when I read that they were playing around with the idea of using radar. We are being promised that this experience would be closer to the Socom 1/2 game, I'm sorry but radar, 32 players, maps built for multiple purposes aren't what Socom 1 and 2 were based on. I'll still follow the game and hope that it's good but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Oh and there's no need play the "I played more socom than you" card because I've also lost my fair share of time in East 2 and East 10. I'm almost certain that the only people that frequent this thread are people that have played this game nonstop.
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I'm no gaming dev so i don't mean to trivialize what they do but, how hard could it have been to give us:
Socom 1 in HD w/
- somewhat updated graphics
- Guns and Maps from Socom 2
- The ability to change the time of day on the maps.
I would have been more than happy with that as PSN and I think it would sell like hotcakes.
That's all I ever really expected from the beginning.
Oh and there's no need play the "I played more socom than you" card because I've also lost my fair share of time in East 2 and East 10. I'm almost certain that the only people that frequent this thread are people that have played this game nonstop.
EDIT:
I'm no gaming dev so i don't mean to trivialize what they do but, how hard could it have been to give us:
Socom 1 in HD w/
- somewhat updated graphics
- Guns and Maps from Socom 2
- The ability to change the time of day on the maps.
I would have been more than happy with that as PSN and I think it would sell like hotcakes.
That's all I ever really expected from the beginning.
I think the major problem is that a lot of the people who are complaining aren't reading the updates I have on the front. Slant Six has addressed many of the issues that people have brought up, including the radar. *going off memory* the way it was explained was that no one will show up on the radar unless they are in your field of vision, and that they were just testing the idea out. With the backlash it got, even after the explanation, I would be surprised if it was defaulted to on, or in there at all.f3niks said:
Your list there is exactly what I wanted to. An updated SOCOM 1, with all maps/guns from SOCOM 2, and night/day/weather options. But face it, we aren't getting that. Confrontation is the best we are going to get on the PS3 and Zipper is definitely not going to give the hardcore what they want either.
Maybe I'm just too optimistic, but I think you guys need to at the very least give it a chance before brushing it off.
Doel said:
Don't misunderstand my post. I still hope that the game is going to be good but I'm not going to work to get them up too far to avoid disappointing myself when it does release. The changes could be a good thing....yet, I'm not all that excited about the 32 on 32. I'm playing CoD4 now and 9v9 can get a little out of hand.
I completely agree and I know that Slant Six is aware of our concerns of that as well.
And its hard because at this point we haven't gotten any new info or media since July, so all we are doing at this point is speculating on 8 month old news. A LOT can change in a span of 8 months.
The great developers out there tear down and change things, even if they are in and working. If something isn't as fun as the rest of the game, a great developer will toss it. This is something I hope Slant Six is doing with 32 players (and bringing it back down to 8v8, single-layout maps). They need to stop over-complicating things.
And its hard because at this point we haven't gotten any new info or media since July, so all we are doing at this point is speculating on 8 month old news. A LOT can change in a span of 8 months.
The great developers out there tear down and change things, even if they are in and working. If something isn't as fun as the rest of the game, a great developer will toss it. This is something I hope Slant Six is doing with 32 players (and bringing it back down to 8v8, single-layout maps). They need to stop over-complicating things.
Never had much of a problem with Blood Lake, but Bitter Jungle is an awesome map with the exception of the frame rate. The whole game has technical issues though. The core game, maps, and interface was so strong though that people played through the poor hit detection (of SOCOM 2) and the frame rate problems in both games.Andokuky said:
With Confrontation, I don't think we'll be running into those kinds of technical issues any longer.
hukasmokincaterpillar
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Nothing shown at GDC isn't exactly a shocker. It would have been a nice surprise (and I want to see an update as much as the next SOCOM nutter), but it ain't a games expo.
As for the delays, it sucks but keep in mind their original target was sort of ridiculous. IIRC what Slant 6 showed at E3 was barely a couple months old and they were targeting a release that would have been less than a year of development. PSN title or no thats some serious compression. I blame overly ambitious deadlines more than anything.
As for the delays, it sucks but keep in mind their original target was sort of ridiculous. IIRC what Slant 6 showed at E3 was barely a couple months old and they were targeting a release that would have been less than a year of development. PSN title or no thats some serious compression. I blame overly ambitious deadlines more than anything.
I'm starting to think showing this, LBP, WOHD, ect. so early was a mistake. Although they have been in development for a relatively short period of time, people act as though they have been in development for nigh forever. Look at the complaining in this thread alone about how long the game is taking.Doel said:
InterMoniker
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Holy shit I hope it makes it by summer! I'll be playing Socom and GTA4 this summer if they both make it.Doel said:
I noticed something today when visiting 1up. SOCOM Confrontation currently sits at the #8 spot on their PS3's most popular list (which is based on most activity, as in clicks). #8 for a game that hasn't seen any new media since July with the exception of being on a couple of their 'Most Wanted' lists, is pretty impressive. And once again goes to show the draw this franchise has.
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Kittonwy said:Are dey doing a beta?
I dont need a beta, Show some media, some previews and relase the danm thing.
its Socom, not much mistery there for me.
I'm not even just talking about now, I'm talking about in general.Madman said:
When they first announced Confrontation it was almost like an after thought and the media treated it as such. When there are interviews with SCE executives, SOCOM is rarely acknowledged (with the exception of a recent interview with Scott Steinberg). For the amount of pull this franchise has on the Playstation brand it amazes me how overlooked it is by Sony and popular media outlets.
I've written a number of pieces on this before. SOCOM is a franchise that the IGNs, 1ups, and GameSpots never really "got". Joe Rybicki (of OPM/1up) and N'Gai Croal (of Newsweek) are really the only two people, that write for popular gaming publications, who seem to understand it.
In the end, that doesn't matter. I think Sony knows the popularity of the game. They made the money from it. It isn't being championed because it's tough to champion. It's graphics aren't the best, and explaining it's gameplay appeal to people isn't exactly easy.Doel said:
It's fans aren't helping either. I have heard tons of complaints about the game series from fans, from Socom 1 to Socom: Confrontation. I have also heard plenty of accusations regarding Zipper, such as them being a poor developer and not understanding their own game. It's a popular game that is attacked by it's own fanbase probably more then any game I have ever seen.
In the end, I think Sony is just trying to let the cards fall where they may with the series.
It had to be done.
I've started 'The Real SOCOM' blog, linked above. Much like this thread, it will be updated whenever there is some news or I have something more to say. I've toyed with the idea of video blogs (like David Jaffe now does) so I may consider doing that as it would be the defining factor between this thread and that blog.
Even if news is slow I'm going to try and post something every week, so don't think I'll be neglecting it. If you have an idea of something you'd like to see me do on the blog, let me know.
I've started 'The Real SOCOM' blog, linked above. Much like this thread, it will be updated whenever there is some news or I have something more to say. I've toyed with the idea of video blogs (like David Jaffe now does) so I may consider doing that as it would be the defining factor between this thread and that blog.
Even if news is slow I'm going to try and post something every week, so don't think I'll be neglecting it. If you have an idea of something you'd like to see me do on the blog, let me know.
Gamecocks625
Member
I assume there will be an option to buy Confrontation as a bluray disc, correct?
SolidSnakex
Member
Gamecocks625 said:
Yes.
Is SOCOM Confrontation going to be the next EGM cover story (or possibly May/June issue)? According to this it will.
I don't know where this interview is from. Can someone confirm this?
I don't know where this interview is from. Can someone confirm this?
Doel said:
If it's worthy of being a cover story, then I think people know something about this game is going to be huge. Even from what we know so far it can confirm it. It seems like a back-to-roots SOCOM game that expanded in proper directions this time, like even more added Clan support. The community is really strong around this series, and clans along with it's competitiveness is what puts it there. This isn't some "oh well, Rambo-respawn-rinse-repeat" game. There is some serious tactical gameplay in this series.
It's a damn shame to wait that long for info though, that's for sure
PAYBACKill
Junior Member
I haven't heard anything about it being a cover story, but so help me god if slant six fucks this game up....omg.
TylerPwnsYou1986
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Kagari said:
I'm pretty sure this game wont be overlooked Kagari.
SOCOM has it's own, VERY dedicated fanbase. I know many people who are holding out for SOCOM Confrontation to release before they pick up a PS3. You could stick Halo on the PS3, release it the same day as a SOCOM game, and it won't make a difference. It's going to sell a lot better and draw more attention than people give it credit for.Kagari said:
Both are tactical third person shooters, but even with that they are vastly different. Socom has always been grounded in reality, while MGS is much more over the top.Kittonwy said:
I agree they are for different audiences and having titles like Socom and MGS coming out relatively soon and close together is a problem you want.
What are your thoughts on how voice chat should be handled?
This is my feeling on it, feel free to comment or make a suggestion of your own.
This is my feeling on it, feel free to comment or make a suggestion of your own.
Broadbandito
Member
Kittonwy said:
Lets make sure mic chat works all the time too :lol
The Take Out Bandit
Member
Kagari said:
I was just thinking "Sent to die" period.
Summer?
Well it beats releasing everything in the last four months of the year, but I dunno.
But yeah, MGS4 will beast all over this. :\
Broadbandito
Member
The Take Out Bandit said:
NO IT WONT, 2 different audiences, 2 way different games. Everyone that plays mp on ps3 will basically get socom. Everyone will also get MGS4 (especially the people buying a ps3 just for it) but there are also people waiting to buy a ps3 for socom. Socom will be huge, and so will mgs4