LabouredSubterfuge
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Andy said Hairworks should work on AMD GPUs as well since it's a tessellation technique.
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Far Cry 4 PC performance thread
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Some AMD guy on Beyond3d claimed isoline tessellation is used for Hairworks because it hurts AMD cards more.
I would not put that past Nvidia.
https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/nvidia-game-works-good-or-bad.55289/page-17Sorry for the off-topic but if there is one thing NVIDIA is good at it is marketing, and that includes their own effects. The Hairworks authoring pipeline they have shown indeed seems fairly complete, but my (obviously biased although informed) opinion is that the effect in itself lacks in quality and performance. It really requires MSAA enabled to start looking OK, which I think is an unreasonable requirement to ask of (usually deferred) game engines. The use of isoline tessellation is also a performance hog (especially on AMD hardware where the effect can be up to 7x slower compared to equivalent NV parts). Finally the lack of a proper OIT solution can make it look like "spaguetti rendering" since without MSAA hair strands thickness becomes an issue (you may get away with it with very dark hair/fur though). I would encourage anyone to try out the fur in COD Ghosts and observe the quality of the effect when MSAA is disabled.
I would not put that past Nvidia.
Nvidia drivers here and no crushed blacks whatsoever. Are you sure you're updated?
kinaesthete
Member
It's still not perfect but this fix got it playable enough for me. Thanks!
Ah yeah, Steam is downloading the patch for me too. Just left out of my latest session tho (well... blackscreen crash with only the sound working after about 90mins just like yesterday. They should really fix that...). Will give it a shot later, time to tank that framerate again after reaching a steady 60.
It's a bug related to SLI. I get the same thing on my system with two GPUs.
There are various other glitches with the SLI AFR mode, flickering shadows, incorrect shader rendering and if you drive a boat, the waves are rendered above the boat's model.
Hopefully they'll revise SLI compatibility sooner rather than later. The scaling is really great at the moment though.
KCroxtonJr
Member
Get nvidia inspector if you don't already have it. Can cap FPS as well as do much more tweaking.
Something definitely weird going on with the texture settings. I have to put it to medium to stop these crazy fps drops while moving around, but nvidia recommends I set it to Ultra...
lordfuzzybutt
Member
I have a weird pet peeve that if a program cannot be minimized to task bar I refuse to use it.
:S
It can be minimized.
lordfuzzybutt
Member
I must have missed it then, well it was 3 am, I guess I can reinstall it.
BloodMoney
Banned
razgriz417
Member
Damnit, so I picked Far Cry 4 as my free game with my 970 and while I was able to purchase the game with the voucher and preload fine, the game is still locked for me, asking me to redeem the activation key. When I try to do so, it says the key is already in use...contacted Uplay support last night but who knows how long until I get a response
I have it running at a pretty locked 60fps using Afterburner to cap it (OSD off or it crashes), and in-game Triple buffering/Vsync. Turning shadows down to high netted me an additional 7-9 fps in heavily shadowed areas where it would dip below 60 on anything higher, and it really isn't noticeable quality-wise. Turning HBAO+ to SSBC also got me another 8-9fps (I still have HBAO+ on as I didn't need the extra frames), so I'd try turning those two settings down before anything else.
The only problem I'm having now is the stuttering while driving. It's pretty bad, and it seems like it's just streaming new assets in, so I don't know if anything can be done about it. While on foot, it runs really smoothly, though. Only occasionally stuttering in the same way.
The only problem I'm having now is the stuttering while driving. It's pretty bad, and it seems like it's just streaming new assets in, so I don't know if anything can be done about it. While on foot, it runs really smoothly, though. Only occasionally stuttering in the same way.
marlowesghost
Member
Damnit, so I picked Far Cry 4 as my free game with my 970 and while I was able to purchase the game with the voucher and preload fine, the game is still locked for me, asking me to redeem the activation key. When I try to do so, it says the key is already in use...contacted Uplay support last night but who knows how long until I get a response
Check your email from ubishop. I had the same thing and it turned out the code was in an email from them and I think was different than the one used to preload.
Do you know if you're hitting any kind of VRAM wall when you get the driving stutter? Using a 970 with a comfortable amount of VRAM to spare, I haven't made it to a point where I can drive yet, but I do get slight loading hitches when moving between areas. I guess it's worse while driving, just like in Watch Dogs?
noomi
Member
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/955119-Far-Cry-4-patch-1-4-0-Online-590-MB
And apparently reverted quickly after...
And apparently reverted quickly after...
Would love to hear more about this 500MB update, excited to see nvidia hairworks
It doesn't seem to be available via uPlay yet. I've tried launching the game couple of times, it's not finding any patches.
razgriz417
Member
the ubishop email key was the same as the one I got in the purchase confirmation though. I screenshotted both and sent it to support, hopefully they can sort it out
lordfuzzybutt
Member
Exit uplay completely, not only the game.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
This is why l don't like NVidia gameworks. This is not good for consoles either assuming other effects are being used there.
Yes. But I had submitted a ticket to UBI last night. Their first message stated that they know of a problem and are working on it. They sent me a message this morning stating that they've unlocked it for my account. I checked before I left for work and I had the wonderful PLAY button.
I'm having huge stuttering as well. Haven't tried lowering textures to medium though but, since my 980m has 8gb of ram and I'm running off an ssd, it really shouldn't be an issue. Game runs maxed at 1920x1080 between 45 to 60 fps. Usually in the middle of the two. But the stuttering makes my fps drop by 10 or 15 for a second or two before climbing back up.
Also, anyone else having huge issues with borderless windowed mode? It locks the fps at 40 to me which is jarring. Changing the refresh rate settings doesn't help either.
That and my gpu utilization drops to 70% in the first main village. Nowhere else does it do this. Super weird.
A potentially great port but not without issues. Dragon Age runs similarly well but without any of the above problems.
Hairworks is not used on consoles, PC only.
razgriz417
Member
O glad to hear they fixed your account, hoping to get a speedy resolution in my case then
They obviously don't care enough to put forth the effort to fix it since we will all buy it. Complaints are in one ear and out the other for them since they already have our money.
My question would be, why does Ubisoft see obvious issues like this and never attempt to remedy it? Do all the thousands of developers they staff play the games without saying a word about it? Stuttering drives me fucking insane, how could it not bother them?
lordfuzzybutt
Member
They obviously don't care enough to put forth the effort to fix it since we will all buy it. Complaints are in one ear and out the other for them since they already have our money.
My question would be, why does Ubisoft see obvious issues like this and never attempt to remedy it? Do all the thousands of developers they staff play the games without saying a word about it? Stuttering drives me fucking insane, how could it not bother them?
You play games for pleasure. They make games for money.
Less effort, less time, more money.
Simple as that.
Of course there will be individual who wants to make a quality product, but the decision is not in their hands.
I am - are you on SLI? Apparently it is due to SLI, which will be unfortunate.
lucebuce12
Member
The target line should be something like this
"J:\Somewhere\Far Cry 4\bin\FarCry4.exe"
just add -skipintro outside like this
"J:\Somewhere\Far Cry 4\bin\FarCry4.exe" -skipintro
If you're using steam, right click on the game in the library, go to properties then click on set launch options. Just write -skipintro into the bar.
That's really helpful cheers, I swear I thought I did it right, but it didn't like it. But that worked fine.
stufte
Member
I get no crushed blacks on SLI.
You'll be the first. Have you played long enough for the day/night cycle to complete? You'll notice when you can't see shit.
stufte
Member
I don't think so, though shouldn't they be apparent in the shadows? Or indoors like the very beginning of the game? I'll forward time at the safehouse tonight and see if shit is bad.
DisableLoadingMipO set to 0 is the default setting which means the Mip is Enabled, setting the Mip to 1 disables it,
I posted 2 demonstration pics showing the texture quality a page back.
Both cases had ULTRA textures
DisableLoadingMipO = 0
http://i.imgur.com/2kgl9iR.jpg
DisableLoadingMipO = 1
http://i.imgur.com/QBkflRn.jpg
MickeyKnox
Member
I have no idea how but I fixed my shadow issues with SLI.
After spending a ton of time trying to fix it I gave up, disabled SLI and played on a single card for a while. Eventually decided I wanted to try and fix it again and once I re-enable the second card it just worked.
Noice! I'll see if this can be reproduced.
BloodMoney
Banned
Was there a game update or something... perhaps?
MickeyKnox
Member
The only other thing that might or might not have an impact (I have not done any more testing) is that I manually enabled HDRfp32 in the xml
Nope, this was late last night.
STILLethal
Member
GTX680, i5 3.33ghz, 8gb
Best option is to play it on the High preset, fullscreen, triple buffering off?
Currently getting 55-60fps
What are people using with a similar setup as mine?
Wondering if I can get better performance/graphics with different settings.
Best option is to play it on the High preset, fullscreen, triple buffering off?
Currently getting 55-60fps
What are people using with a similar setup as mine?
Wondering if I can get better performance/graphics with different settings.
Developers do not have access to all abilities of GPUs thus it is not possible for them to create HRAA on PC using DX or GL. (Although it might be possible with Mantle.)
N1ghtW4lk3R
Member
This is useless. With Farcry 3 Sli profile there're some texture glitch, flickering and SMAA issue is still current and obliviously...stuttering. so, that is not the solution
Not just SLI, I'm experiencing the same issue with Crossfire as well. So it's probably dual GPU related.
Edit:
So is Hairworks finally out?
Yeah, this shit is ridiculous. I'm getting annoying microstutters even with a singe GPU, just like Far Cry 3. It seems this game suffers from the same issues.
pixel monkey
Banned
Latest stuttering fix I'm hearing from the afflicted among us is to adjust the EditorGamerProfile.xml to:
GPUMaxBufferedFrames="0" to GPUMaxBufferedFrames="1"
I'm not going to be home to try it for a bit, but the word of the day with this fix is (supposedly):
"Butter"
GPUMaxBufferedFrames="0" to GPUMaxBufferedFrames="1"
I'm not going to be home to try it for a bit, but the word of the day with this fix is (supposedly):
"Butter"