Hmm. This does sound like a neutral role though and begs the question, is the arsonist also neutral?
...or maybe I should hinge an assumption on another assumption.
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Gafia 2: The Bride of Gafia |Mafia OT| One Wedding, Many Funerals
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Hmm. This does sound like a neutral role though and begs the question, is the arsonist also neutral?
...or maybe I should hinge an assumption on another assumption.
Xamtheking
Member
JOKE INCOMING
Yes, I am Johnnyslowknives, the Undead Arsonist.
Once per night I can set someone on fire with the power of memes
If everyone else dies I become MechaCrab and set OG on fire in order to pave the way for the true rule of Discord above all else
END OF JOKE
No, I'm not the arsonist. I'd rather not claim, but if I gotta, I gotta.
I fucked up reading fam
Rip my reading comphrension
A bit more through analysis of the end:
Ourobolus posts a votecount at 4.53PM London Time, here.
We see that weemadarthur has 4 votes (Scrafty, CzarTim, Burbeting, nin1000)
SalvaPot has 5 votes (terrabyte, Ourobolus, fireblend, Launchpad, xamtheking)
We don't know what Salva's role is. This could possibly be scum vs scum situation for all we know. What we know is that weemad was Godfather, role that scum would want to protect, especially since Scrafty the cop was suspicious of weemad.
Kalor posts 4.56PM that he "would vote weemad but don't want to tie boohoo", yet disappears once this problem no longer exists.
Terrabyte votes Weemad at 4.57PM. Now weemad has 5 votes, while Salva has 4.
Absolutbro votes for Weemad at 4.58PM. Now weemad has 6 votes, while Salva has 4.
At this point the vote leader changes dramatically. Salva would now need three votes (or 1-2 votes from weemad voters) to become vote leader again. Kalor and Scrafty are no longer in the run for the lynch. The scum who are online could think "shit, we lost this case". At this point.
Weemad votes for Salva at 4.58PM. Weemad 6, Salva 5.
And finally, Xam votes for Weemad at 4.59PM. Weemad 7, Salva 4.
Ourobolus posts a votecount at 4.53PM London Time, here.
We see that weemadarthur has 4 votes (Scrafty, CzarTim, Burbeting, nin1000)
SalvaPot has 5 votes (terrabyte, Ourobolus, fireblend, Launchpad, xamtheking)
We don't know what Salva's role is. This could possibly be scum vs scum situation for all we know. What we know is that weemad was Godfather, role that scum would want to protect, especially since Scrafty the cop was suspicious of weemad.
Kalor posts 4.56PM that he "would vote weemad but don't want to tie boohoo", yet disappears once this problem no longer exists.
Terrabyte votes Weemad at 4.57PM. Now weemad has 5 votes, while Salva has 4.
Absolutbro votes for Weemad at 4.58PM. Now weemad has 6 votes, while Salva has 4.
At this point the vote leader changes dramatically. Salva would now need three votes (or 1-2 votes from weemad voters) to become vote leader again. Kalor and Scrafty are no longer in the run for the lynch. The scum who are online could think "shit, we lost this case". At this point.
Weemad votes for Salva at 4.58PM. Weemad 6, Salva 5.
And finally, Xam votes for Weemad at 4.59PM. Weemad 7, Salva 4.
Xamtheking
Member
The vote came after Weemad's
It was indeed 6-5 by that point, but Batman and the shenanigans that happened within made me go like "let's just make absolutely fucking sure we don't have a tie"
You jerks tried to lynch me again while I was away.
But I'll forgive you since you got scum instead, nice job town!
Anyway, I think the drink guy is actually a neutral and might be inoffensive, similar to the cow lick. This is going to sound silly but I think it might be a role like cabot and his objective is to get everyone in the party to drink a nice glass of refreshing alcohol and get drunk with him, and he wins when he gets a certain number of players to drink.
As for the arsonist, sounds like our neutral killer to me, I wonder what flavor of arsonist is and if he can douse/ignite an unlimited number of times, or if he only has one chance to ignite everyone else.
As for those who voted for me, yes I think there is obviously a few scum players there for sure and I think Xam's switch at the end is the most suspicious of them all, since he had already had his vote on me and by that moment it was mostly symbolic, of course he could also might wanted to avoid a tie.,,
Also, apology accepted Terra.
But I'll forgive you since you got scum instead, nice job town!
Anyway, I think the drink guy is actually a neutral and might be inoffensive, similar to the cow lick. This is going to sound silly but I think it might be a role like cabot and his objective is to get everyone in the party to drink a nice glass of refreshing alcohol and get drunk with him, and he wins when he gets a certain number of players to drink.
As for the arsonist, sounds like our neutral killer to me, I wonder what flavor of arsonist is and if he can douse/ignite an unlimited number of times, or if he only has one chance to ignite everyone else.
As for those who voted for me, yes I think there is obviously a few scum players there for sure and I think Xam's switch at the end is the most suspicious of them all, since he had already had his vote on me and by that moment it was mostly symbolic, of course he could also might wanted to avoid a tie.,,
Also, apology accepted Terra.
You forgot me crying our that Salva is town and therefore saving the day but other than that it's very accurate thanks bear
.I always got your back mate. We hermanos
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
yeah, no. You're not pinning some half-assed flip-a-coin decision I made in the last few hours on me being scum.
Xamtheking
Member
Yarp.
Same with launch and his "wtf you guys"
I wasn't saying you are scum... your role claim still feels genuine to me.
But your reaction is interesting.
Hmm. No I think his reaction was for real. Trust me I know that fucker
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I'm also pretty sure I put Salva somewhere near my top scum in a previous post. I at least mentioned him.
I made it pretty easy to go after me tbh. I was the easiest target tbh. Well,you have to live on the edge!
Who do you think of the people pushing for Salva at that time are Scum? Or do you think there is none.
How do you feel about me now launch? Tell me that you love me.
I'm talking about Launch's vote for Salva though, not to you.
I don't really have anything to add other than I don't want to get too sidetracked by neutrals.
What? Well I for one thought he was a lying idiot asawell. I did not go that far to cast a vote for him but for me that's not a real reason to go after someone.
On the other hand, this is Gafia we can do whatever we want.
Proceed.
I have been doubting launch's role to be town aligned since the very start, but I don't know, his wtf reaction seems very genuine in the context when he posted, so I am not sure he did it to protect the town leader.
xam and oreo for me.
This is what I was going to say too. It's interesting that Ouro seems to be trying to ignore scum hunting aspect in favor of disussing the neutral instead.
Gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with me being doused last night
Yeah, I know it would be really unfortunate for the scum to lose 1-2 members in a single night to an arsonist...
sigh
Xamtheking
Member
No I agree launch was genuine lol
We will have to see you burn in order to believe you mate. Sorry
Bananaspaceprincess
Neo Member
Hey there. Whoohoo to the Wee lynch. and meh to Scrafty :/ I'm glad she cleared Bronx before she died.
This also seems like a well aimed scum target. I guess that rules out another unexpected table switch at the beginning of the night?!?
Sorry I wasn't there at the day end.
I just flew over the day start actions... have to go back and read it more carefully!
This also seems like a well aimed scum target. I guess that rules out another unexpected table switch at the beginning of the night?!?
Sorry I wasn't there at the day end.
I just flew over the day start actions... have to go back and read it more carefully!
Finally we are on the same page.
To stop shitposting ouro for a moment, we can move in with the Arsonist discussion only if we are sure that Arso can only target people in the same table. This would limit the possible arsonist to four people, but if targeting is universal, everyone is suspect again.
In the past arsonists have needed three targets to win, so we can't really wait for the third target to happen, because at that point said arsonist would win. But if we are wrong about only single-table targeting, we could end up in a wild goose chase in favor of lynching potential scum.
In the past arsonists have needed three targets to win, so we can't really wait for the third target to happen, because at that point said arsonist would win. But if we are wrong about only single-table targeting, we could end up in a wild goose chase in favor of lynching potential scum.
This is crucial
I would feel better about chasing arsonist, if more of the suspects would be suspicious in scum hunt as well. But right out of the four candidates three seem towny to me (AB and Czar voted for weemad yesterday, Launch has the roleclaim). Only Xam fits both profiles, and I wouldn't mind lynching him today.
Xamtheking
Member
Just because AB and Czar voted early for Weemad yesterday isn't a guaranteed town measure; could be a scum tactic to help in this kind of situation
If they need 3 targets to win then the safest course of action would be to lynch one of the doused players, since that would make the arsonist need to douse one more player.
AB did not vote for Weemad early, lol. He voted one minute before you.
Why did you switch from Salva to Wee?
Xamtheking
Member
Mistake #2
I think maybe a scum is in Weemad's votes
It's possible, but would scum really help in killing their own Godfather, a role that is most secure and in need of hiding?
Xamtheking
Member
1. Prevent any chance of a tie
2. The terra/nin interaction