Familienoberhauptvogel
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looked more midrange with Brimaz and Resto angels.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT9| Kaladesh - Cruisin' Down the Street in my 6/4
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looked more midrange with Brimaz and Resto angels.
What I saw of it looked miserable. Multiple game deciding coin flips that go way above the variance you normally find in card games. Blizzard don't make any good truly competitive games (maybe Starcraft 2) but it's clear being accessible and having money to burn is much more important in esports.
It had Ghostly Prison.
They had the list up in the middle of the round (r2), watch the replay to see
Well, decided to trade some spare rares, the Kaladesh masterpieces I did pull, my vials, and some extra cash to go in for the playset, and, man, these things looks so gorgeous in person:
Now, my only concern is whether these will be a problem at competitive REL events. They'll be the only foils in my D&T deck, so I don't know if players will think that I'm basically "marking" them in the deck in case they feel a little different.
Now, my only concern is whether these will be a problem at competitive REL events. They'll be the only foils in my D&T deck, so I don't know if players will think that I'm basically "marking" them in the deck in case they feel a little different.
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I was aware of that.
I was looking at the schedules of my local game stores. Just one out of three stores is hosting this event, and only on two consecutive saturdays.
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charlequin
Banned
I approve of dumping "Suicide Zoo," but there has got to be a better name for this deck than "Death's Shadow Aggro."
Kamikazoo!
SigmasonicX
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Joining in with this game, Corey's Grixis Control completely dismantled Zach's TitanShift deck. Surgical Extraction on Through the Breach, Snapcaster Surgical Extraction on countered Primeval Titan.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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it would have been the other way around if he hadn't had the KCommand.
SigmasonicX
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I like how when they went over the decks, Zane's deck was labeled Golgari, but on the screen now, it's labeled B/G Rock.
SigmasonicX
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First time watching Dredge in action, and I hadn't realized that Faithless Looting and dredge interacted that way ("draw" the dredge cards, then discard them back into the graveyard). Pretty gross.
Golgari Grave-Troll is likely going to be re-banned, but I wonder, would a card like this be good against Dredge?
Methane Spark - 1R
Instant
Deal 3 damage to target player and exile all cards from that player's graveyard.
Whenever an opponent puts five or more cards into his or her graveyard, you may exile Methane Spark from your graveyard and cast a copy of it targeting that player.
Golgari Grave-Troll is likely going to be re-banned, but I wonder, would a card like this be good against Dredge?
Methane Spark - 1R
Instant
Deal 3 damage to target player and exile all cards from that player's graveyard.
Whenever an opponent puts five or more cards into his or her graveyard, you may exile Methane Spark from your graveyard and cast a copy of it targeting that player.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Grixis control is not a control deck. Wins way too fast and 1 mana 4/5 is not a control card.
Relative to the format it's a control deck.
It has only 9 win conditions.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It has burn and snapcasters. It's even running countersquall over negate.
Speaking of countersquall I'm surprised that card is barely being played in EDH. Negate is in a ton of decks and countersquall is just a 2nd copy of negate.
It is not a tempo deck. It's not playing nearly enough threats.
Control = Disrupt, then drop threat and protect. Tempo = Drop threat, then protect and disrupt.
This is the former, not the latter.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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The deck drops tasigur on turn 3 regularly. It can be the latter just as much as the former.
Do you have a decklist I was looking for it and I only found an article from wotc that while named deck tech isn't a decktech at all
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/...grixis-control-with-corey-burkhart-2016-11-06
charlequin
Banned
Yeah, control decks in 2016 don't run 2 threats anymore. You need a mini gameplan in around 10 cards that can support and synergize with your overall control strategy but which has some ability to win the game on its own without complete control of the game. The key point is that every one of the cards has some way to contribute to both gameplans.
Take Efro's Abzan Control list. All the threats do double-duty: Den Protector (aggressive attacker and recursion), manlands (uncounterable mana sources that become threats later), Sylvan Advocate (good on its own, improves those manlands later on), Kalitas (gains you life and minorly disrupts graveyard strategies while developing your board), and a bunch of planeswalkers that cover both angles.
This deck is exactly the same way. Tasigur is an aggro threat that also has a mana-sink repeatable recursion effect; Snapcaster can go for the kill on an empty board but gives you more value for all your instants; Bolt kills creatures or goes to the face; Countersquall ticks down your opponent's life even as it disrupts their play.
Take Efro's Abzan Control list. All the threats do double-duty: Den Protector (aggressive attacker and recursion), manlands (uncounterable mana sources that become threats later), Sylvan Advocate (good on its own, improves those manlands later on), Kalitas (gains you life and minorly disrupts graveyard strategies while developing your board), and a bunch of planeswalkers that cover both angles.
This deck is exactly the same way. Tasigur is an aggro threat that also has a mana-sink repeatable recursion effect; Snapcaster can go for the kill on an empty board but gives you more value for all your instants; Bolt kills creatures or goes to the face; Countersquall ticks down your opponent's life even as it disrupts their play.
SigmasonicX
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Oh hey, I didn't realize Kiln Fiend was seeing Modern play. That's one of my pet cards.
SigmasonicX
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Skred is up!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
What are the Twisted Images in Infect for? In case you attack with the Hierarch? In case the opponent has a beefy blocker?
Kill Spellskites i assume.
charlequin
Banned
Chandra TOD makin' it happen!
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Like Kirblar said, I'm a fan of Kamikazoo myself. It fits the decks Idea of hurting itself to hurt you more, plus it fits the recent additions of Goyf and Nacatl to the deck.
Kiln Fiend Combo(KFC) is absolutely disgusting when it goes off, but damn if it isn't a sweet deck.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
How do you get to top 8 with a mono red deck but don't know how the ricochet trap counter interaction works. I know it just from EDH.
SigmasonicX
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Pretty big misplay by Kevin Mackie, having Ricochet Trap redirect the counter to the counter instead of the Trap.
EDIT: Though he was saved by the rule that he has to choose a legal target for Ricochet Trap.
EDIT: Though he was saved by the rule that he has to choose a legal target for Ricochet Trap.
Its price is limited by the fact that Snow Mountains aren't cheap, are in limited supply, and have no other use outside of the one deck
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Ajani Vengeant vs Koth Koth in the semifinals of a GP, what a time to be alive
SigmasonicX
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Yeah, Kevin is playing surprisingly sloppily considering how far he has gotten. But that makes you wonder about how the deck would go when piloted by someone better.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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They actually work really well together Seth is running a full playset of both in his free win red deck.
Skred vs Grixis Control finals, literally no one would have predicted it.
Kevin said that he would up the number of Chandras if he'd play again. But Koth is better for monored I agree.
Kevin said that he would up the number of Chandras if he'd play again. But Koth is better for monored I agree.
phazedplasma
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Skred hype
I mean, he's playing Ricochet Trap and he doesn't even know a counterspell can't target itself. Maybe he should play Hearthstone instead...
I just grabbed Sheets + SCMs, haha.
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