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Anime Mafia |OT| My Little Scum can't be this cute! ()
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Dusk Soldier
Member
There are 4 players in the game right now that knew i was bullshitting yesterday, and you want to waste time policy lynching?
All of our PRs are dead Kawl-senshu; we don't have time for this.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Tell us all your checks and stop using it as a bargaining chip
Poltergust
Member
...All?
Yes.
This isn't about this game. I'll gladly give this game away if you are truly town who made a dip shit gambit. This is about making sure people STOP DOING THIS FUCKING GAMBIT. It throws games. And it has become incredibly prevalent in our community.
No one respond to an obvious ploy to hunt out PRs.
what are your checks?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Yeah no fuck this shit so instead of going for the sure thing you got cocky. No screw you anyone with half a brain cell that was town would have taken the sure thing, instead you go for a gamble and lost us another PR.
Poltergust
Member
I'm also getting fed up with Dusk. I trusted him, but it seems that that trust was misplaced.
Stop being so cryptic and tell us what you know.
Stop being so cryptic and tell us what you know.
if you were town wouldn't you give him a little leeway since ya know you would be lynched right now if it weren't for him
Poltergust
Member
I don't matter as much. If I knew with 100% certainty of Kyanrute's true identity, I would have gladly sacrificed myself over Kyanrute because he's a PR and I am not.
With our doctor gone now, if Dusk really is town there is next-to-no chance that he'll survive the night. That's why I'm particularly frustrated by his attitude right now. It's nonsensical.
Poltergust
Member
Dusk Soldier
Member
If you guys want to know who I checked N2, then just lynch me. I'm not going to tell you otherwise. I'm not scared to be lynched I've already done everything I can.
Instead of getting angry about Kyanrute. Stop and think. Walk away from the game for a bit if you have to.
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If I had claimed cop and was wrong. I could have come back today and say I don't know what happened. That my target must have been switched on me, and left it at that.
But I didn't. I claimed ROLE COP. The chances of me correctly guessing one of the scum cosplays was essentially zero. And there was no way I could bluff being a role cop for more than one day.
What that means essentially is that there were 4 players in the game that knew FROM THE START that my claim was bullshit.
The most important thing isn't whether Kyanrute was town or scum. The most important thing to take away from D3 are the reactions people had to the claim.
Instead of getting angry about Kyanrute. Stop and think. Walk away from the game for a bit if you have to.
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If I had claimed cop and was wrong. I could have come back today and say I don't know what happened. That my target must have been switched on me, and left it at that.
But I didn't. I claimed ROLE COP. The chances of me correctly guessing one of the scum cosplays was essentially zero. And there was no way I could bluff being a role cop for more than one day.
What that means essentially is that there were 4 players in the game that knew FROM THE START that my claim was bullshit.
The most important thing isn't whether Kyanrute was town or scum. The most important thing to take away from D3 are the reactions people had to the claim.
was that the plan?
Poltergust
Member
There are two things I really do not get, coming from you:
1. Why are you acting this way? What's the point?
2. Why have you not told us anything about what you did last night?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Poltergust
Member
Oh, and one other thing: why, Dusk, do you assume there are exactly four remaining scum members left? It could be 3, or it could be 5. From what I know about the game, the number of Mafia members isn't 100% determined.
???
You're really not making any sense. Are you saying you're not bothered, then?
???
You're really not making any sense. Are you saying you're not bothered, then?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
unvote
Alright, Dusk. I'll play your game. Let me go back and read.
Alright, Dusk. I'll play your game. Let me go back and read.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
So...okay. If, by your logic, the people who must've known you were bullshitting and doubted your claim are scum, then here are most of the reactions:
Squiddy doubts you right off the bat.
Kyan, now confirmed town, wants to figure it out. At the time I read this as desperation, and in a way it was, but for the wrong reasons.
More problem solving. I read these kinds of reactions as a willingness to think through the situation at hand through careful analysis, and is therefore, a slight town read.
Again, asking questions and thinking it through.
Never really comes back with any real thoughts, as far as I saw. Just a lot of mud slinging, and BB also isn't very active throughout the day. Maybe he's more surprised about their being a cop at all, and his lack of reads indicates he already knows Dusk is lying.
Something about this feels too appeasing.
This piqued my interest because I feel like it's very pre-emotive. And he also never engages Kyan for answers later on.
A lot of doubt thrown at Dusk. If we're going by the thought that automatic doubt is a scumtell, then this is and the other posts like it are very suspect. Dusk also breadcrumbed Cabot and Kyan in a chat.
Gives Kyan the benefit of the doubt. I null read this, as it would be very easy for scum to appeal to Kyan's sensitivities to get him to talk.
Why did you believe Kyan over Dusk? I read this as FEP knew from the start he was lying about there being a Psylocke.
More doubt. I've been watching Oreo for a while and I don't really like his reads or anything else he posts.
Squiddy doubts you right off the bat.
Kyan, now confirmed town, wants to figure it out. At the time I read this as desperation, and in a way it was, but for the wrong reasons.
More problem solving. I read these kinds of reactions as a willingness to think through the situation at hand through careful analysis, and is therefore, a slight town read.
Again, asking questions and thinking it through.
Well this got interesting fast, i need to wrap my brain around all these shenanigans.
Never really comes back with any real thoughts, as far as I saw. Just a lot of mud slinging, and BB also isn't very active throughout the day. Maybe he's more surprised about their being a cop at all, and his lack of reads indicates he already knows Dusk is lying.
Something about this feels too appeasing.
This piqued my interest because I feel like it's very pre-emotive. And he also never engages Kyan for answers later on.
A lot of doubt thrown at Dusk. If we're going by the thought that automatic doubt is a scumtell, then this is and the other posts like it are very suspect. Dusk also breadcrumbed Cabot and Kyan in a chat.
Gives Kyan the benefit of the doubt. I null read this, as it would be very easy for scum to appeal to Kyan's sensitivities to get him to talk.
Why did you believe Kyan over Dusk? I read this as FEP knew from the start he was lying about there being a Psylocke.
Had a weekend that involved attending to personal urgent stuff, so again, I was a no show for most of the day
Read from several pages ago up until here, and my thoughts are WHAT THE HELL, TOWN??
How did Dusk just drive the entire conversation with a single claim that can't be fully verified?
Also, what happened to Blargo? Did he turn out to be scum?
More doubt. I've been watching Oreo for a while and I don't really like his reads or anything else he posts.
flatearthpandas
Member
It's explained in the quotes.
Kyan's claim was a potential explanation for there not being a nightkill n2. Dusk not revealing gender before kyan's claim hurt his credibility. And then dusk conveniently couldn't confirm himself to anyone because he targeted the n1 nk? And then happened to have targeted a possible explanation for n2 no kill?
I followed kyan down the rabbit hole until he went mental and then ultimately decided his claim only made sense as cop or as lyncher.
Or as a jester.
Dusk Soldier
Member
If you guys want to know who i checked N1, N2, or N3,
You will just have to lynch me.
Dusk Soldier
Member
To answer your questions.
i. SkyOdin-kun is dead.
Palmer-kun is dead.
Nomadic-kun is dead.
Kyanrute is dead.
I will likely be lynched today.
Ultron87-kun is going to be dragged off into a white-panel van tonight.
And dragon-chan is the most likely night target tonight.
That means going forward tomorrow, There most likely will not be any town PRs in play.
It's not very likely we got more than 8. No more answers are coming. No more protection from night kills. The only thing town has left to find scum are wits.
I know it's hard to accept what I'm saying, but once I'm gone it'll all make sense.
I'm just saying it now, because it's likely my only chance.
ii. The only thing that can answer that question now is my Role PM unfortunately.
iii. It's typical on Gafia to have a five-scum team, but you're right, technically I don't actually know how many scum are left.
Poltergust
Member
...I can't make heads or tails of this. Those "answers" to my first two questions sound like complete nonsense.
The only way this makes any lick of sense, if he is town, is that Dusk is not allowed to give specifics about what he has investigated. But then that would make his claim of investigating SkyOdin on the first night a complete lie.
Poltergust
Member
Dusk, tell me if you're allowed to answer the following question:
Are you able to tell us who you investigated while you're alive?
Are you able to tell us who you investigated while you're alive?
Dusk Soldier
Member
I'm certainly allowed to. And i will if I'm still alive at LYLO.
But if i die, I guarantee you'll be able to figure it out, so there's no point in telling you now.
Poltergust
Member
Well, so much for that theory. I thought your role prevented you from divulging any information while alive, but if you die everything you've learned would come spilling out.
That was pretty much the only way I could make an argument that justifies keeping you alive. Now all I see is you being scum. There is absolutely no reason for you to now withhold information from us unless the information is wrong.
Vote: Dusk Soldier
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
So was I on the right track at least, Dusk?
This is bullshit and scummy. Not answering is not helping town.
Sorry sorry guys I will be able to play tomorrow. But here's the sparknotes version
I agree with Dragonz that Cabot was probably the actual red check (assuming Dusk is telling the truth).
Starting to think Polter is town, therefore will not lynch him.
Scum reading BB. Also Kawl.
Dusk, can you at least give us an updated reads list, given Kayn and Palmer both flipped town?
If Dusk is town, i understand the sentiment behind his actions. But Honestly if you had just told us the real red check yesterday we could have worked together to figure out interactions between that red check and other players, to catch them. Dusk is certainly not a neutral lychee though, as he didn't leave the game after Kyab did.
I agree with Dragonz that Cabot was probably the actual red check (assuming Dusk is telling the truth).
Starting to think Polter is town, therefore will not lynch him.
Scum reading BB. Also Kawl.
Dusk, can you at least give us an updated reads list, given Kayn and Palmer both flipped town?
If Dusk is town, i understand the sentiment behind his actions. But Honestly if you had just told us the real red check yesterday we could have worked together to figure out interactions between that red check and other players, to catch them. Dusk is certainly not a neutral lychee though, as he didn't leave the game after Kyab did.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DAY 4 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Dusk Soldier (6)
BlackBuzzard 2079
WhereAreMahDragonz 2080 2171
TheExodu5 2150
Kawl_USC 2176
squidyj 2178
ultron87 2180
Poltergust 2183
Poltergust (1)
squidyj 2101 2178
rac 2112
No active vote for Day 4: 30yearsofhurt, cabot, Cewyn, Dusk Soldier, flatearthpandas, hatmoza, oreomunsta, Swamped, WhereAreMahDragonz (has previously voted)
Day 4 Postcount: 30yearsofhurt 0, BlackBuzzard 5, cabot 14, Cewyn 2, Dusk Soldier 9, flatearthpandas 2, hatmoza 3, Kawl_USC 14, oreomunsta 0, Poltergust 13, rac 5, squidyj 15, Swamped 1, TheExodu5 4, ultron87 4, WhereAreMahDragonz 18
Day 4 ends:
Automated vote tally here
9 votes for majority
Dusk Soldier (6)
BlackBuzzard 2079
TheExodu5 2150
Kawl_USC 2176
squidyj 2178
ultron87 2180
Poltergust 2183
Poltergust (1)
rac 2112
No active vote for Day 4: 30yearsofhurt, cabot, Cewyn, Dusk Soldier, flatearthpandas, hatmoza, oreomunsta, Swamped, WhereAreMahDragonz (has previously voted)
Day 4 Postcount: 30yearsofhurt 0, BlackBuzzard 5, cabot 14, Cewyn 2, Dusk Soldier 9, flatearthpandas 2, hatmoza 3, Kawl_USC 14, oreomunsta 0, Poltergust 13, rac 5, squidyj 15, Swamped 1, TheExodu5 4, ultron87 4, WhereAreMahDragonz 18
Day 4 ends:
Automated vote tally here
9 votes for majority
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Vote: Cabot
I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here, Dusk.
I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here, Dusk.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I forgot to add it to my reads, but I wanted to mention that Exo straight up jumps on the Kyan bandwagon. There's no real reaction, and that worries me.
oreomunsta
Banned
Vote: Dusk Soldier
Dusk, I'm open to discussion and possibly changing my vote, but your behavior has been severely anti-Town. I have zero reason to trust you right now, and the master Keikaku you claim to have.
I didn't get to vote D3 due to the turbo, so I'm making this my default stance. That gamble doesn't seem like a gamble at all, and trying to convince us to look for your bread crumbs is only diverting the conversation to your favor
/dead
But seriously, is there a way for scum to have found the doctor? That death seems unmerited
I'll understand if you don't want to publicly share, Dragonz, but I'd like to know why you're not liking my posts.
I'm suspicious of you, too, especially with the way you're regarding and trusting Dusk. It's nuts at this point to believe in his Keikaku
Dusk, I'm open to discussion and possibly changing my vote, but your behavior has been severely anti-Town. I have zero reason to trust you right now, and the master Keikaku you claim to have.
I didn't get to vote D3 due to the turbo, so I'm making this my default stance. That gamble doesn't seem like a gamble at all, and trying to convince us to look for your bread crumbs is only diverting the conversation to your favor
/dead
But seriously, is there a way for scum to have found the doctor? That death seems unmerited
I'll understand if you don't want to publicly share, Dragonz, but I'd like to know why you're not liking my posts.
I'm suspicious of you, too, especially with the way you're regarding and trusting Dusk. It's nuts at this point to believe in his Keikaku
oreomunsta
Banned
Messed up my wording a little, Dusk. I meant to say that your gamble, as you call it, was highly reckless towards Town, and now we're down a doctor
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Vote: Dusk Soldier
Dusk, I'm open to discussion and possibly changing my vote, but your behavior has been severely anti-Town. I have zero reason to trust you right now, and the master Keikaku you claim to have.
I didn't get to vote D3 due to the turbo, so I'm making this my default stance. That gamble doesn't seem like a gamble at all, and trying to convince us to look for your bread crumbs is only diverting the conversation to your favor
/dead
But seriously, is there a way for scum to have found the doctor? That death seems unmerited
I'll understand if you don't want to publicly share, Dragonz, but I'd like to know why you're not liking my posts.
I'm suspicious of you, too, especially with the way you're regarding and trusting Dusk. It's nuts at this point to believe in his Keikaku
I cannot think of a scenario in which scum!Dusk claims cop, mislynches a townie, and does not expect to die the next day. As a scum play, why bother? It's easy enough to get a mislynch going without this weird cop gambit.
oreomunsta
Banned
Fair enough, but in what scenario would Dusk's move have been a great play if he was Town? If you can think of one, then I'd ask why we didn't get that outcome. If the answer is, as Dusk himself puts it, he fucked up, then that can go either way by which we can equally say he fucked up as scum.
Another alternative is that he's some kind of neutral role that isn't aligned to town either, and so he's already proved himself as a danger in that regard
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I have a few ideas but I've got a raging headache and I really need to poop so I'll get back to you
oreomunsta
Banned
No worries, we've still got time to talk this out, unless a turbo happens overnight.
Gonna go to sleep now, so I'll catch up and respond in the morning