I'm extremely sceptical but we'll see.
http://gaming.msi.com/article/msi-is-ready-for-windows-10-are-you-2
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MSI - The Witcher 3 and Batman Arkham Knight to support DX12
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I'm extremely sceptical but we'll see.
http://gaming.msi.com/article/msi-is-ready-for-windows-10-are-you-2
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Yeah dunno how reliable this is...
DouglasteR
Member
Hopefully.
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JoJo UK
Unconfirmed Member
I agree this seems like a stretch but didn't AMD leak that MS is pushing for a July released for Windows 10 / DX12 (ie. sooner than most thought) so I suppose it's not outside the realms of possibility...
I think they were disputing the claim that DX12 = automatic 1080p for Xbox?
dgrdsv
Member
On the contrary, both games are using NV tech including PhysX and both are likely to be severely GPU limited.
In March CDPR said they had "no plans" for DX12.
http://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=73
Maybe Nvidia money made them change their mind.
Slightly Mad Studios are also "considering" Directx 12.
http://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=73
Maybe Nvidia money made them change their mind.
Slightly Mad Studios are also "considering" Directx 12.
martino
Member
I think it's not impossible to see it in free "the witcher 3 enhanced edition" patch
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JoJo UK
Unconfirmed Member
I believe it's Win10 only, perhaps another reason why MS are pushing the free update from 7/8 to 10?
W10 only.
ashecitism
Member
Sounds like they're just making assumptions, but it wouldn't surprise me if either of them imlemented it down the line after their games' launch.
Dictator93
Member
I think this sounds reasonable.
LegalEagleMike
Member
Windows 10 not out until Late July. Witcher out in May. Arkham out in June.
SliChillax
Member
Why is this surprising? Lot's of games last gen got DX10 and DX11 patches after their release why should it be any different now?
ashecitism
Member
And I think the same goes for Vulkan, since both of those will come out on Linux and Mac. Wonder if they'll bother with Vulkan on Win though.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
We won't see DX12 with The Wild Hunt until possibly the Enhanced Edition.
Hell. We still aren't even sure if we will see DX11 stuff that looks like this.
http://youtu.be/kpP8BRE63PY
Haven't seen physics, fur, or fidelity in general of this caliber since this trailer. Since the game is gold now, not holding my breath.
Hell. We still aren't even sure if we will see DX11 stuff that looks like this.
http://youtu.be/kpP8BRE63PY
Haven't seen physics, fur, or fidelity in general of this caliber since this trailer. Since the game is gold now, not holding my breath.
ScepticMatt
Member
Why would Nvidia pay for DX12? Their main driver advantage is better CPU utilization in DX11 multi-thread.
So I'd wager Nvidia's opinion on DX12/Vulkan for gaming is something like "yeah, sure, we'll do it too".
From what I've read DX12 requires significantly more effort than dx11. Much more responsability on the part of developpers. Which is why I'm sure certain games designed with dx11 in mind can easily be ported to DX12.
See my post above. It will no doubt take a significant amount of work to have a stable, efficient dx12 layer. I don't see either games supporting it unless Nvidia or AMD pay for the expense.
JeffG
Member
I can't see any software adopting a new API after release.
Doesn't make any sense.
Why spend money on development/testing for a completed project.
DX12 will hopefully be pretty good but will take a good 2 years before the pickup rate and gains from it are decent. From my basic knowledge it seems like DX12 is a lot different to code for so you either port your DX11 code over to DX12 making the minor optimisations here and there or you rewrite for 12 in a totally new mindset of what the driver is capable of.
That would mean doubling the work load from the graphic developers as they would have to write for DX11 and 12 also the coders themselves would have to think out of the box on how their game can get the best performance with the new driver which would probably mean even more development time just for concepting etc.
Hopefully with just the DX11 ports games will gain a bonus 10-20% performance increase in certain areas
Especially with massive textures and shaders can be used hopefully some nice optimisation can be made to boost them.
That would mean doubling the work load from the graphic developers as they would have to write for DX11 and 12 also the coders themselves would have to think out of the box on how their game can get the best performance with the new driver which would probably mean even more development time just for concepting etc.
Hopefully with just the DX11 ports games will gain a bonus 10-20% performance increase in certain areas
Especially with massive textures and shaders can be used hopefully some nice optimisation can be made to boost them.La Noire, Shadow Warrior.
Grimgrillz
Banned
These PR pieces are so far removed from reality it begins to hurt. Here's what CDPR's engine guy said about Dx12
“I think there is a lot of confusion around what and why DX12 will improve. Most games out there can’t go 1080p because the additional load on the shading units would be too much. For all these games DX12 is not going to change anything,”
>LINK<
Here's what CDPR's game designer said just recently
“I think there is a lot of confusion around what and why DX12 will improve. Most games out there can’t go 1080p because the additional load on the shading units would be too much. For all these games DX12 is not going to change anything,”
>LINK<
Here's what CDPR's game designer said just recently
These PR pieces are so far removed from reality it begins to hurt. Here's what CDPR's engine guy said about Dx12
“I think there is a lot of confusion around what and why DX12 will improve. Most games out there can’t go 1080p because the additional load on the shading units would be too much. For all these games DX12 is not going to change anything,”
>LINK<
Here's what CDPR's game designer said just recently
He was talking about the Xbox One. We are talking about PCs were DX12 will make a massive difference if you are CPU limited.
Extreme amounts of draw calls also exhibit an extraordinarily large delta between DX11 and DX12. See Anandtech's DX12 numbers.
dgrdsv
Member
It's possible of course but TW2EE didn't have any changes in the renderer at all even though it launched with D3D9 in times when D3D11 was available.
The question is - would a D3D12 renderer benefit these games at all? I'm thinking that a straight D3D11->D3D12 port would be rather pointless and since both games are to be released soon any increases in LODs and such CPU heavy stuff which may be possible in D3D12 with no loss of performance aren't likely in a post-release window.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
We like to call that false advertising
Grimgrillz
Banned
Fair enough!
I'm just tired of hearing that DX12 is going to practically swap out the XBO and replace it with new hardware. That's a very real and growing misconception outside of gaf. But my mistake I thought it was another console click bait piece lol
No problem. Feel free to read the OP next time.
Because they'll be supporting this game in next year or two after release and they're developing their next game using the same engine.
Horsemama1956
Member
Would DX11 have made a difference in the same way as the switch to 12 could for 3? You wouldn't need to add anything to these games to justify DX12 with upcoming games. It's not just "CPU heavy" stuff that benefits from the newer APIs.
Playing BF4 or Inqusition in DX11 and Mantle can result in a huge performance difference for people.
Uhh, it could be a fairly significant difference. Adding even 15-20% increase in performance or increase in fidelity would be like adding new hardware.
Journey
Banned
I haven't seen that lately, there may have been one or two nutjobs, but all I see today are real discussions of the benefits, because afterall, there will be some benefits even for X1 because of where it stood compared to PS4's GNM solution. Can we just let that go unless it's happening on the current thread? I think I see more of these complaints than the actual offenses.
UnrealEck
Member
No. People must know and understand the PS4's powah!