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Dick Justice · Oct 22, 2015

Curiosity was piqued by a few threads on the Steam forums and Reddit. Apparently, the TOS now threatens to block access to the game if it detects any tampering with the game files. So if you're using a mod to bring back

Quiet

, or just using model swaps, might wanna be careful. Haven't had much time to look through properly, but I did notice some interesting things, like how Konami reserves the right to delete your save data if it's dormant for long enough. Also, you apparently lose access to MB coins if you uninstall your game (that's probably just them stating the obvious that the coins aren't usable outside of the game)?

Wario64 · Oct 22, 2015

The winning move is not to play

Lupin the Third · Oct 22, 2015

Wario64 said:
The winning move is not to play

One and done.

NullPointer · Oct 22, 2015

Declined.

JadedWriter · Oct 22, 2015

Wait so on the ps4 when I shelve this game for eternity they'll delete my save file? I take very long breaks from games at times.

Dick Justice · Oct 22, 2015

JadedWriter said:
Wait so on the ps4 when I shelve this game for eternity they'll delete my save file? I take very long breaks from games at times.

This is taken from the PC version. No idea if the console versions have similar terms.

NinjaMouse · Oct 22, 2015

Wario64 said:
The winning move is not to play

Deal.

Rockk · Oct 22, 2015

I think it might be more to combat the hackers in FOB. I dunno. I guess we'll see when people start getting banned.

The Cool One · Oct 22, 2015

I feel like they shouldn't have the power to do that

Mac the KNife · Oct 22, 2015

Wario64 said:
The winning move is not to play

I'm still not to the bad parts yet, but I feel like I'm getting close.

JigglesBunny · Oct 22, 2015

Eh. I'll never touch the game again, and Konami won't see a penny from my wallet for the rest of our mutual existences, so I'm fairly ambivalent to the whole thing, but still...

What a buncha' dicks.

StrikeFirst117 · Oct 22, 2015

So they can delete saved date after a "long" period of time, only problem is they then don't specify the amount of time before it does it.

Also save file that was edited with quiet modded, still works completely, I have a got a separate backup on my external hard drive.

Zombegoast · Oct 22, 2015

Konami are now the fucking Patriots.

Se7enSword · Oct 22, 2015

Time to remove that mod then. Gotta keep it clean for MGO.

Enter the Dragon Punch · Oct 22, 2015

You guys would be surprised at what's in the majority of ToS you agree to without reading, isn't just Konami.

konjak · Oct 22, 2015

Now, are we sure this is exclusive to this agreement, or are we just looking for more reasons to shit on only Konami?

They're shitty, but just asking. You should worry a lot more about Microsoft/Google/Facebook agreements. They can remove your life, almost.

brandonh83 · Oct 22, 2015

This game is a circus.

commissar · Oct 22, 2015

I was going to say that it's a good thing agreeing to T&Cs don't waive consumer rights under my local laws, but with the TPPA, who knows :/

Heimbeck · Oct 22, 2015

Zombegoast said:
Konami are now the fucking Patriots.

That's the real twist of MGS V.

LoveCake · Oct 22, 2015

What are they hoping to gain by this?

Some of the things Konami have done in regards to MGSV are frankly unbelievable.

I regret getting the PS4 collectors edition, but i'll never buy another Konami game again.

Drkirby · Oct 22, 2015

Enter the Dragon Punch said:
You guys would be surprised at what's in the majority of ToS you agree to without reading, isn't just Konami.

Yeah, the only thing that looks unique is the Save game part, which reads to me "If your save gets corrupted or deleted you can't sue us"

Nzyme32 · Oct 22, 2015

Isn't this common in so many other games' TOS?

Enter the Dragon Punch · Oct 22, 2015

Drkirby said:
Yeah, the only thing that looks unique is the Save game part, which reads to me "If your save gets corrupted or deleted you can't sue us"

Nzyme32 said:
Isn't this common in so many other games' TOS?

Pretty much. I dislike Konami as much as the next guy but anyone actually being upset over this is reaching IMO

Lonnie413 · Oct 22, 2015

Pretty sure Destiny's ToS says similar things. Freakin' Bungie.

Scientist Supreme! · Oct 22, 2015

Enter the Dragon Punch said:
Pretty much. I dislike Konami as much as the next guy but anyone actually being upset over this is reaching IMO

They got to try. How else are you going prove this game is "evil."

TemplaerDude · Oct 22, 2015

Zombegoast said:
Konami are now the fucking Patriots.

I'm so confused.

Opto · Oct 22, 2015

Is Konami going to block Bunnyhop and anyone who criticized MGSV?

Åesop · Oct 22, 2015

TemplaerDude said:
I'm so confused.

it's the La Li Lu Le Lo! ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)ง

jacobeid · Oct 22, 2015

Enter the Dragon Punch said:
You guys would be surprised at what's in the majority of ToS you agree to without reading, isn't just Konami.

.

Dem arbitration clauses.

Replicant · Oct 22, 2015

"DECLINE"

thesonovabeach · Oct 23, 2015

Zombegoast said:
Konami are now the fucking Patriots.

And the deleted file is the phantom pain.

DeaviL · Oct 23, 2015

Oh my god, a ToS with tons of shady stuff in it.
Now where have i seen those before...

Oh wait, every single piece of software on this planet.

hydrophilic attack · Oct 23, 2015

Wario64 said:
The winning move is not to play

but the game is so good

fertygo · Oct 23, 2015

Not seeing big deal of this, especially the saving part..

FranXico · Oct 23, 2015

Decline those TOS. Your single player experience will be better for it.

Spaghetti · Oct 23, 2015

this is all dependant on if they act on the TOS or not. until then, this is just jumping at shadows.

that said i wouldn't be surprised if they do actually start to do things once the mgo update is finally pushed on PC.

moffattron9000 · Oct 23, 2015

TemplaerDude said:
I'm so confused.

Konami is Tom Brady. Fuck Konami and their deflating Metal Gears.

No_Style · Oct 23, 2015

moffattron9000 said:
Konami is Tom Brady. Fuck Konami and their deflating Metal Gears.

Kudos. Ya beat me to it!

Golnei · Oct 23, 2015

Spaghetti said:
that said i wouldn't be surprised if they do actually start to do things once the mgo update is finally pushed on PC.

I'm surprised they haven't tried to enforce this a little earlier, with the amount of people attempting to pirate DLC and illegally restore FOB resources without using the official service.

JadedWriter · Oct 23, 2015

Dick Justice said:
This is taken from the PC version. No idea if the console versions have similar terms.

Either way this is shady as fuck. I've never been this soured on a game post release before.

lawnchair · Oct 23, 2015

brandonh83 said:
This game is a circus.

if by circus you mean game of the generation i agree

RevolverRoden · Oct 23, 2015

To me it seems people are now just trying to find anything about the game to make it look bad. confirmation bias tbh
I could be wrong, but I'm sure if you read the TOS of pretty much anything with a TOS, you'll see some "interesting" things.

Enter the Dragon Punch said:
You guys would be surprised at what's in the majority of ToS you agree to without reading, isn't just Konami.

Right. This thread is a joke.

Novocaine · Oct 23, 2015

Wario64 said:
The winning move is not to play

Except the game is awesome. And all EULA's/ToU's are usually full of crazy shit like this, it's just that now Konami is in the spotlight people happen to pay attention to the details.

Dick Justice · Oct 23, 2015

RevolverRoden said:
To me it seems people are now just trying to find anything about the game to make it look bad. confirmation bias tbh
I could be wrong, but I'm sure if you read the TOS of pretty much anything with a TOS, you'll see some "interesting" things.

Right. This thread is a joke.

Really, any thread becomes a joke when the defensive fanboys come to the rescue of their beloved game/company.

RevolverRoden · Oct 23, 2015

Dick Justice said:
Really, any thread becomes a joke when the defensive fanboys come to the rescue of their beloved game/company.

Not really. I just think it's silly to bring up standard TOS stuff and act like it's anything more than that.

Scientist Supreme! · Oct 23, 2015

RevolverRoden said:
Not really. I just think it's silly to bring up standard TOS stuff and act like it's anything more than that.

Don't worry he's always cranky.

pmx7 · Oct 23, 2015

I've got issues with this game, but this isn't one of them.

Giever · Oct 23, 2015

Dick Justice said:

That's what it means to create context.

TheSpoiler · Oct 23, 2015

Dick Justice said:
Really, any thread becomes a joke when the defensive fanboys come to the rescue of their beloved game/company.

I don't think anyone sees Konami as beloved these days.

TOSes always contain stupid, weird shit, and none of it is enforced or can be enforced. It's legal mumbo jumbo. I know you want to take a stand against Game Company but this is a strange way to do it, unless they enact it and actually fuck someone over.

Dick Justice · Oct 23, 2015

TheSpoiler said:
I don't think anyone sees Konami as beloved these days.

TOSes always contain stupid, weird shit, and none of it is enforced or can be enforced. It's legal mumbo jumbo. I know you want to take a stand against Game Company but this is a strange way to do it, unless they enact it and actually fuck someone over.

Who said it was taking a stand? I came across some stuff, decided to post it out of interest.

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