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Gowans · Dec 23, 2015

The top post on R/Gaming is

Here's one reason why Fable Legends is going to suck
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/3xwtho/heres_one_reason_fable_legends_is_going_to_suck/

With this photo and nothing else

And everyone is really going in on the comments on how this is terrible for Fable, what's next Zelda etc?

The thing is Fable Legends is a free to play multiplayer Moba-etsc game where you buy characters like In Smite or League of Lengends. There is plenty of debate if you like this model as part of his genre but sitting reading this this morning with the comments and assumptions made by people are for this micro transactions being in place on top of a real Fable Game.

With things like this what the fix? Devs and community to step in and challenge the comments or is the narrative already written?

Edit: the game is free to play, 4v1 (or AI) dungeon crawler/Warframe/Hero battler(read the thread).

Poodlestrikesums it up here
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=190277424

Frozenprince · Dec 23, 2015

At this point there is no going back.

They need to just embrace it, maybe adjust their pricing model, and eat the negative press.

TheChewyWaffles · Dec 23, 2015

Nemo · Dec 23, 2015

It's the BEST OFFER tho

Vinterbird · Dec 23, 2015

You're telling me that a free to play multiplayer action game has a way for the developer to make a profit?

Outrageous.

tattooed_dwarf · Dec 23, 2015

At first I was against of Fable being f2p, but after going trough Warframe, Smite and especially Neverwinter, I have grown to like some of these games. I have no problems with this business style, IF handled with common sense.

Now I just need new Guardians of Middle-Earth, I loved that game.

Sayad · Dec 23, 2015

Fable Legends is a f2p game?!

zeox · Dec 23, 2015

an image like this is pretty pointless without knowing how much gold you earn on average just by playing the game (if any?), how much gold stuff actually costs, what you can buy for only gold etc.
I'm not a huge fan of microtransactions, and never will be, but this doesn't really tell me anything one way or another

Sayad said:
Fable Legends is a f2p game?!

yep. they announced it a while back (more than a year ago I think?)

jfoul · Dec 23, 2015

I figured it was going to have micro-transactions, since it's a F2P title.

NullPointer · Dec 23, 2015

On one hand I wouldn't doubt this for a moment, but on the other hand I'm reminded of those early microtransaction pics from Just Cause 3 that turned out not to be true.

And isn't Fable Legends free to play? If so, we already know they're going to micro/macro the place up. How else is it supposed to work?

EBE · Dec 23, 2015

there are plenty of reasons its going to suck, believe me. this isnt the worst of them

Joey Ravn · Dec 23, 2015

A F2P game has Michael Transactions?

ZELDA IS DOOMED.

r/gaming lol

Frozenprince · Dec 23, 2015

We kinda need to see just how much shit each tier can buy you.

piccio_ssl · Dec 23, 2015

Sayad said:
Fable Legends is a f2p game?!

Yes

kadotsu · Dec 23, 2015

I need the goods side of the in game economy first before I get outraged. How much does a hero cost? How grindy is the acquirement of gold by playing?

The problem with Fable Legends isn't F2P, it's the complete shift of genre and tone. Just like Syndicate, The Bureau and B&K Nuts and Bolts it shits on the legacy and fans of the games that made the brand matter. Legends also is launching in a market of fierce MOBA competition that I think is already saturated. I would be surprised if it managed to be supported for more than a year.

Betty · Dec 23, 2015

this is going to flop horribly

Not because of microtransactions, but because who the fuck thinks fable has an interesting enough world or gameplay to warrent an mmo.

Omni · Dec 23, 2015

Vinterbird said:
You're telling me that a free to play multiplayer action game has a way for the developer to make a profit?

Outrageous.

The nerve of those developers

Gowans · Dec 23, 2015

kadotsu said:
I need the goods side of the in game economy first before I get outraged. How much does a hero cost? How grindy is the acquirement of gold by playing?

The problem with Fable Legends isn't F2P, it's the complete shift of genre and tone. Just like Syndicate, The Bureau and B&K Nuts and Bolts it shits on the legacy and fans of the games that made the brand matter. Legends also is launching in a market of fierce MOBA competition that I think is already saturated. I would be surprised if it managed to be supported for more than a year.

I completely agree with you there, I think there are plenty of other concerns about the game in a pretty full market and if it will be fun but yes it's not really a Fable game and judging how a really large gaming community has reacted that detail isn't out there.

Polk · Dec 23, 2015

At least it's not $99.99 right?
Or those aren't considered micro enough?

Vinterbird · Dec 23, 2015

Betty said:
this is going to flop horribly

Not because of microtransactions, but because who the fuck thinks fable has an interesting enough world or gameplay to warrent an mmo.

Not an MMO. It's Left 4 Dead in the world of Fable mixed with persistent character development and loot found in Destiny.

kAmui- · Dec 23, 2015

Betty said:
this is going to flop horribly

Not because of microtransactions, but because who the fuck thinks fable has an interesting enough world or gameplay to warrent an mmo.

It's not an mmo though, right?

Possumowner · Dec 23, 2015

Thought this was always going to be the case being a F2p game.

deadman69 · Dec 23, 2015

ive been spoiled by dota 2 and path of exile that i just don't like the other f2p models. i feel they should have used this as a lossleader to get people to actually use their store on pc.

dragonelite · Dec 23, 2015

Vinterbird said:
You're telling me that a free to play multiplayer action game has a way for the developer to make a profit?

Outrageous.

This.....

Triggerhappytel · Dec 23, 2015

I mean, I loathe this kind of shit, but it's not surprising in a F2P game. Is anyone really surprised, beyond just wanting to create a controversy?

Betty · Dec 23, 2015

Vinterbird said:
Not an MMO. It's Left 4 Dead in the world of Fable mixed with persistent character development and loot found in Destiny.

It's garbage, the presentation at E3 was the definition of boring.

Robin64 · Dec 23, 2015

This is only ever shocking when you've already bought a $60 game. Fable Legends is free, though, so this is fine.

aspiegamer · Dec 23, 2015

OP, you might wand to clarify that it's a f2p game before even more people get confused.

Vinterbird said:
Not an MMO. It's Left 4 Dead in the world of Fable mixed with persistent character development and loot found in Destiny.

Spoken like a proper PR person attempting to namedrop as many appealing things as possible to gather interest! Kudos!

wapplew · Dec 23, 2015

I think we have been trained enough for this to become none news 5 years ago.

Fortinbras · Dec 23, 2015

The picture doesn't show everything. You should see the prices for the characters and the other stuff.

Rosur · Dec 23, 2015

as a f2p game not surprised it has this sort of thing.

dragonelite · Dec 23, 2015

Fortinbras said:
The picture doesn't show everything. You should see the prices for the characters and the other stuff.

Can you unlock a character in a reasonable time then,
lets say 10 hours of gametime.

Gamezone · Dec 23, 2015

Wasn`t we told that the F2P mechanics in Fable Legends was going to be great?

This is terrible. The "best offer" is the price of a full retail game in microtransactions.

Skele7on · Dec 23, 2015

It's F2P what on earth did you expect?

A COMPLETELY free game in 2015/16

I'll have what you're on please, but for free.

Theorry · Dec 23, 2015

Well yeah its F2P.

AppleMIX · Dec 23, 2015

We need more context.

What does the gold buy? How much do things cost?
How fast does it take to unlock them via in game credit?
Do characters go on rotation?

Posting a screen shot with money values doesn't really mean anything and all it does is drum up unnecessary hate for a game.

justsomeguy · Dec 23, 2015

aspiegamer said:
Spoken like a proper PR person attempting to namedrop as many appealing things as possible to gather interest! Kudos!

And yet you choose not to call out Betty for misrepresenting and then downplaying the game. So is it only bad (in your opinion) if someone is positive about a game?

edit: Or are you actually literally accusing the poster of being PR? in which case you'd better pm a mod and back it up with facts.

TheSpoiler · Dec 23, 2015

aspiegamer said:
OP, you might wand to clarify that it's a f2p game before even more people get confused.Spoken like a proper PR person attempting to namedrop as many appealing things as possible to gather interest! Kudos!

He sounded pretty impartial to me. I get that people are already picking up those pitchforks and wanting to poke at developers, but this shit is uselessly mean spirtied when the dude was just answering somebody.

Anyway, I'd like to wait and see how bad it is gameplay wise and how the coins affect balance. Right out of the gate, high prices don't inspire much confidence, and loot based drops aren't an easy thing to balance.

Gamezone · Dec 23, 2015

AppleMIX said:
We need more context.

What does the gold buy? How much do things cost?
How fast does it take to unlock them via in game credit?
Do characters go on rotation?

Posting a screen shot with money values doesn't really mean anything and all it does is drum up unnecessary hate for a game.

https://www.fablelegends.com/news/free-to-play-faq

Vinterbird · Dec 23, 2015

aspiegamer said:
OP, you might wand to clarify that it's a f2p game before even more people get confused.Spoken like a proper PR person attempting to namedrop as many appealing things as possible to gather interest! Kudos!

Or it's the easiest way to describe the game by saying it's taking elements from some games a bunch of people are familiar with?

I find it easier to say it's like X and Y rather then just describing the same mechanics a ton of other games have.

Iced Arcade · Dec 23, 2015

..... it's a f2p game so kind of expected (actually totally expected)

justsomeguy · Dec 23, 2015

Vinterbird said:
You're telling me that a free to play multiplayer action game has a way for the developer to make a profit?

Outrageous.

Indeed.

Kenzodielocke · Dec 23, 2015

So they say you can earn those things, question is, how long would it take with no money investment.

leeh · Dec 23, 2015

Vinterbird said:
You're telling me that a free to play multiplayer action game has a way for the developer to make a profit?

Outrageous.

.

It's a F2P MOBA style game, what do people expect? Seriously?

EVIL · Dec 23, 2015

Not that outraged, gold doesn't grow on trees you know!

jesu · Dec 23, 2015

Gowans said:
With things like this what the fix? Devs and community to step in and challenge the comments or is the narrative already written?

Probably mentioning it's F2P in your title would probably helped a little.

AppleMIX · Dec 23, 2015

Gamezone said:
https://www.fablelegends.com/news/free-to-play-faq

The only thing that answers is that there is a character rotation.

indosmoke · Dec 23, 2015

Beaten a hunded times but yeah, it's f2p. So what?

Not seeing the point of this thread, tbh.

Marvel · Dec 23, 2015

Some people thought it would not have microtransactions?

Tntnico · Dec 23, 2015

Gowans said:
Here's one reason why Fable Legends is going to suck
With this photo and nothing else

League of Legends and Smite don't suck, why Fable Legends would ?
What's the matter with Free to Play ?

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