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NieR Automata - Combat Details and Developer Notes
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AlexFlame116
Member
Wow this all sounds awesome. This game will be amazing.
Has a collector's edition been announced outside of Japan yet?
Has a collector's edition been announced outside of Japan yet?
Neoleo2143
Member
I think that Dodge mechanic is perfect, sounds just the right balance between Bayonetta's big combo reward and the demand it takes to pay attention.
Mr. Smiley
Member
"There are no complex strings of combo attacks; instead, your attack will continue as it registers additional button inputs."
Just in case you forget this is an RPG first and foremost.
I'm going gauntlet majority of the game. Love giant fists.
Just in case you forget this is an RPG first and foremost.
I'm going gauntlet majority of the game. Love giant fists.
It's a basic light attack, strong attack system. They've already said the combat's more simplified compared to their usual efforts, so not surprising that they're not placing an emphasis on memorizing combos.
Jawbreaker
Member
It's not a character action game, so the attacks should be simplified. This is good.
ChosenPredator
Banned
jeez this game is bonkers, it's the defintion of pure gameplay bliss.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Can we get an update on U.S. release date? Has a worldwide launch been verified?
I don't know, that sounds like it could just as easily be describing Bayonetta - there are combo strings, but their implementation is relatively free-form and there's no particular punishment for whiffing combos. I do expect Nier's system to be simpler, but I don't think it'll be completely devoid of those aspects.
Exentryk
Member
Not yet.
I dislike long combos that you have to memorize, and probably one of the reasons I don't play character action games. What PG is doing here is perfect for an RPG action combat system.
Leona Lewis
Banned
I still can't believe this game is real.
Given how you equip two weapons at once, and the large emphasis on dodging, this does seem like a more simplified, Bayonetta-ish combat system. And it's open world as well, so I imagine people who always wanted Bayonetta to be less linear might be happy for that.
TheCongressman1
Member
I can't put my finger on what makes me so interested in this. I normally hate beat em up button mashers, but this just looks so fluid and fun.
Glad I stumbled upon it a while back, been following it since.
Glad I stumbled upon it a while back, been following it since.
Uhhhhhhhhhh
lucebuce12
Member
I'm not sure we played the same Revengeance.
Are you talking about MGR? because I think you mean another game.
â Narayan
Member
Oh good god, I'm already hyped for this game as it is. That .gif is just awesome!
matrix-cat
Member
It sounds pretty much exactly like Bayonetta, though presumably with a less intense default difficulty level. Bayonetta might be combo-string based, but there are enough combo strings that simply mashing Y and B at random will almost always result in something cool happening. With a Witch Time equivalent, the same A and B weapon switching setup, and an evade move even faster and sleeker than Bayo's, it looks like this is going to play like buttah.
LIKE BUTTAH
LIKE BUTTAH
Question for all you guys who are on top of the details about this game.
This may seem incredibly picky but bear with me. Previously (around e3 i think?) I saw footage where the NPC male follower was there pretty much all the time. I really don't like the idea of a CPU-controlled dummy "helping" you out. But in all of these gifs posted I don't see him anywhere. So: Is it known how often he is around? Is he just a selectable character or is he forced on you?
This may seem incredibly picky but bear with me. Previously (around e3 i think?) I saw footage where the NPC male follower was there pretty much all the time. I really don't like the idea of a CPU-controlled dummy "helping" you out. But in all of these gifs posted I don't see him anywhere. So: Is it known how often he is around? Is he just a selectable character or is he forced on you?
If it's like the original, you sometimes have people following you around for story reasons.
Nier had NPC followers who were important to the story, and so does this one. We know that the male follower (9S) is basically a main character, and you'll switch to him as the story dictates. No clue whether this is at certain points in the story, or if you unlock him after completing 2B's story and play his story.
User123456
Member
Metal Gear Rising uses exactly this system. It allows you to focus on the bigger picture, like just-dodging and space/positioning control.
Mr.Monitor
Member
That gameplay footage. My god. This game is gonna be legendary.
Honestly, I don't think the game would ever sell gangbusters, but I feel that Square really is sleeping on a game that could actually sell decently if they bothered marketing the damn thing.
Feels like they've almost completely forgotten about the game western wise since E3. Hell, we don't even know of it's western release date yet and we've known of its Japanese date for a month now. They originally said they wanted the game's release date to be global, so it at least is likely close to that date. The game is open world, which is basically "in" these days, the combat's there and will likely make almost every other open world title's combat its bitch, the music's clearly there from what we've heard, and the story will likely be good, if not unique at least. I don't know, just feel like Square could do so much more for the game and actually be rewarded for it if people knew about it.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Still, people should managed expectations when it comes to the sales of this game considering
1) How much the original sold
2) How much Platinum games sell
3) February Royal Rumble
DrunkShogun
Member
The dream game by the dream team seems to be going good. Just need a release date and dual audio. Dual is a bonus so won't complain if we don't get it.
When people say things dealing with gameplay and the game being legendary, I really don't think they don't care at all about how they sell, besides the company doing well to sell more games. Like as you say, how Platinum games sell. They don't, but people still call Bayonetta 2 the best action game made yet.
The ol' "press A for awesome" critique crap. Especially on a game that definitely does not do that.
Booker Dewitt
Member
Sound like the combat is gonna be basic till you can make a second weapon set. Hopefully they don't take too long to open up other weapon types.
At the very least, if there's anything that gives Nier an edge, it's that it's one of the few February Brawlers that has a PC version, as many of them don't.
Mr. Smiley
Member
I feel though that if Platinum really meant no combo strings, they'd mean it as all of their games have standard combo strings no matter how free form or simplified they are. I'm imagining MGR's system, except heavy attack is similar to light attack in attacks that don't start a combo string.
Command moves are there, it seems like, and I do think pause moves will be there too.
To be sure, MGR did have combo strings if you began attacking with the heavy button . But other than that, yeah that seems to be the case in combination with Bayonetta two-set switching.
Exciting times ahead.
Dragon1893
Member
Yeah, combo strings were the way to go in MGR, they did more damage, had useful properties (e.g. knockdown/knockback), and gave you extended zandatsu faster than strings of light attacks. At the same time, I liked that there were just a few of them. It made each one more meaningful.
Exentryk
Member
There is a new livestream planned for Oct 26th at 8 pm JST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf-tJHAuKv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf-tJHAuKv4