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Nintendo taking Steam approach to digital on Switch, says SteamWorld Dig dev
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Skittzo0413
Member
It would be nice to see some more evidence of this, especially from the bigger publishers. Good to hear though, as always.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
It's really gonna dent some egos, that's for sure.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Now nicalis has no excuses for european wait times
Skittzo0413
Member
I seriously doubt there is a game coming to PS4 or XB1 which flat out couldn't run on the Switch. Sure, you'd have to optimize and downgrade the game, but I don't think that would stop any publisher if they find it to be worth the investment. That being the big issue as of now I'd imagine (being worth the investment).
Crayon
Member
I don't think so. The switches cpu and memory are up to snuff. And the GPU may be slower but is modern. I see no reason yet to believe the switch can't run any game a ps4 can in a lower resolution.
That doesn't have anything to do with the budget of the game, as there are very graphics intensive indie games like Snake Pass, which in the Digital Foundry analysis they revealed the game actually requires a serious amount of horsepower, but runs well on the Switch.
Deft Beck
Member
Yes. Overall, the Switch continues the approach that NoA has been using since the Wii U; to court smaller studios who attract core players, at a fraction of the effort that it would take to get, say, Andromeda on the Switch.
I think this kind of approach is why companies such as Shi'nen and WayForward have stuck with Nintendo since the 2000s.
lwilliams3
Member
I'm liking all of these positive quotes from Switch developers.
pinkurocket
Member
What I really wanna know is why does the eShop force a language on me based on my location? If I set my Switch to English I would prefer the eShop to be English as well, or at least give me a choice between one of the multiple local languages.
Herb Alpert
Banned
OMG someone dared to say that the Switch is close to ps4 and XboxOne power wise.
Retaliation is coming.
Yeah, happy to hear that, at least for indies, Switch is a good platform. I'm really enjoying graceful explosion machine at the moment!
Retaliation is coming.
Yeah, happy to hear that, at least for indies, Switch is a good platform. I'm really enjoying graceful explosion machine at the moment!
Hamster Plugin
Member
I'm pretty sure there's no region-specific certification on Xbox either. So now Sony is the only one still doing this outdated crap. It's so stupid to have separate PSN stores for NA and EU.
AquaWateria
Member
I'm curious on how some posters will take that last line lol.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I would argue that the title is misleading if the actual point the developer is making is not one of the top, say, twenty things you might think upon reading the title.
James Scott
Banned
Is the sentiment that "if you want to port something to Switch you probably can" really that controversial?
It's more of a situation whether it's worth the investment.
That was technically more powerful but harder to develop for. Switch is easy to develop for but technically less powerful.
It's more of a situation whether it's worth the investment.
The PS3 was more powerful and there were titles that took advantage of it (Sony First party), but this isn't the same case.
That was technically more powerful but harder to develop for. Switch is easy to develop for but technically less powerful.
spyroflame0487
Member
This is pretty cool.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
I think they would know more than some forum rando with a sophomoric understanding of specs.
What is there to retaliate against? lol
Bamboo 竹
Member
I mean I can get the logic behind that decision. If you have your console in Spanish and configure your user to Japan to get into the Japanese eShop they would need to translate all games descriptions and publicity to Spanish, even those that didn't get localized.
JonnyDBrit
Member
It's a bit of interesting situation with the indie dev scene atm, on Switch. Apparently (according to Jonas Kaerlev) NoA are big on getting indies to the system, while NoJ are somewhat more reserved about the matter.
Still, regional access on the eshop is a definite step-up, and I imagine this is pretty useful for indies who know they have a scattered but global fanbase. Fans don't have to wait for a version that covers the primary language of their region, which can help the devs to be able to afford the translation to begin with.
Still, regional access on the eshop is a definite step-up, and I imagine this is pretty useful for indies who know they have a scattered but global fanbase. Fans don't have to wait for a version that covers the primary language of their region, which can help the devs to be able to afford the translation to begin with.
Buggy Loop
Member
Honestly, there's so many examples on PC where low/medium or medium/high or high/ultra are barely noticable, except for some unknown drop in performances. Graphics are hitting a curve of diminishing returns in terms of eye candies vs power required. Chasing the 4k's tail will make this even more true for years to come.
Not to mention most peoples would barely tell the differences of settings if it were not for dedicated websites analysing it. I don't know how many times i used nvidia sliders to compare witcher settings and not seeing a damn difference for minutes.
Beautiful games now are mostly dependant on the studio behind it, the art and the investment. Barely any 3rd parties out there even surpassed TLOU on PS3.
-shadow-
Member
Oh no they will... They'll find a ridiculous way.
franklyshankly
Member
I'd happily buy a Switch and double up on purchases of some games if they were cross save or something. Something like Destiny 2 for example would be awesome if I could play it on PC and then play my same characters on Switch when necessary.
But as it is, I personally wouldn't ever want to play the downgraded version of a game on Switch when I'm at home and have access to my tv to use my PS4 Pro or PC. Switch would really only be for the times I couldn't use my TV for whatever reason. And no, the Switch docked mode would not be a reasonable replacement for that to me.
So it's hard to imagine locking in my purchases to such a cut down version of those games for only that use case. That's personally my biggest drawback with the Switch, even if it did get ports of many AAA games (which who knows if it will).
Herb Alpert
Banned
Sorry I forgot the /s
You know how things turn out here when someone questions the power of the PS4 versus Switch, especially now Console warriors are waging their war in the Scorpio threads.
Again, I'm really glad that they chose to be so proactive with indie devs. A console with first party Nintendo games and most of indies is already awesome for me. Now some third party games are just the icing on the cake.
If GTA V comes to the Switch, I'll buy that shit for the 4th time to be able to play it on the go.
pinkurocket
Member
Bamboo 竹;233550223 said:
That's true. The thing is, if I set my Switch to a local language, the eShop chooses that language. If I set my Switch to English it defaults to a language that's not my choice without an option to change it. It definitely needs at least a choice between local languages, I'm not sure how many countries have this issue but I certainly find it annoying.
This "one version for the entire world" thing is pretty consistent with what we've seen so far. Right now you can go on the Japanese eShop and buy any game that's been localized, and you'll get the exact same game as in the west, not just a Japanese-specific version that only supports Japanese. And that game will even show up as already purchased if you browse another eShop on the same console.
It's a refreshing change from the traditional console model where language options are artificially limited to which region you buy the game from.
What remains to be seen though, is when you buy a Japanese-only game and it gets localized later, will the localization be patched in the original Japanese version? Puyo Puyo Tetris will be a good study of this, right now it's Japanese only but the localization is coming at the end of this month. Will Nintendo enforce the "one version for the entire world" policy on games that get localized later as well??
It's a refreshing change from the traditional console model where language options are artificially limited to which region you buy the game from.
What remains to be seen though, is when you buy a Japanese-only game and it gets localized later, will the localization be patched in the original Japanese version? Puyo Puyo Tetris will be a good study of this, right now it's Japanese only but the localization is coming at the end of this month. Will Nintendo enforce the "one version for the entire world" policy on games that get localized later as well??
PapaEmeritus
Member
I saw this in action at Pax East
Even Nintendos approach to how they get new indies to join the Switch family nowadays, they see a good game at a convention and they just walk straight up to them and ask them to develop for Switch.
Damon Baker was walking around and chatting up indie devs - I think he was trying to get the fighting game Fantasy Strike (Ex STreet Fighter Dev I think)
Then he was over at a few others at the Mega Booth, so they are actively recruiting.
Even Nintendos approach to how they get new indies to join the Switch family nowadays, they see a good game at a convention and they just walk straight up to them and ask them to develop for Switch.
Damon Baker was walking around and chatting up indie devs - I think he was trying to get the fighting game Fantasy Strike (Ex STreet Fighter Dev I think)
Then he was over at a few others at the Mega Booth, so they are actively recruiting.
Yep, this is in no way what I thought about when I wanted to compare a platform to steam.
Same.
You aren't going to perform miracles and suddenly get high end PS4 AAA games running the same on Switch. Or at all.
Case by case.
Better than Vita vs PS3, but probably not THAT much better.
The Horror the horror
Banned
I know the Switch is Iwata's baby, but I wonder if Tatsumi Kimishima is largely responsible for the change in culture and even ideology that is seemingly happening at Nintendo.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Of course.
RandomHopeInc
Member
That would explain why I can change the language of the system, and have a new language / voice acting for the games on my Switch.
I was able to play Zelda in spanish that easily.
I was able to play Zelda in spanish that easily.
While it may not be "big budget", as mentioned in the article Snake Pass pushed OG PS4 HARD, and still runs pretty close to parity on Switch.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Nintendo is taking a very Steam-like approach by offering games that are delivered through the internet.
Man cheesemeister must be so happy about this.
Actually, the next step would be to just allow to switch languages from the option menu (with two separate options for voices and subtitles).
Well there's nothing particularly bad in being wrong.
Actually, the next step would be to just allow to switch languages from the option menu (with two separate options for voices and subtitles).
Well there's nothing particularly bad in being wrong.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Capcom have said that they're considering a RE7 switch version
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I've never tried this. Do I need to create a Japanese account or can I just switch regions? I'd like to download the Dragon Quest Heroes demo.