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Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice - Review Thread
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Sangetsu-II
Member
In before Jimquisition hate:
He would've gave it an 8 if the game didn't bug out on him.
He would've gave it an 8 if the game didn't bug out on him.
Holy shit, Jim Sterling was savage
http://www.thejimquisition.com/hellblade-senuas-sacrifice-review-for-the-damaged/
http://www.thejimquisition.com/hellblade-senuas-sacrifice-review-for-the-damaged/
There is a permadeath state, yes.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yes there is a permadeath system.
Jawbreaker
Member
Yeah, it should be noted that Jim enjoyed the game enough that he would have scored it a 7.5-8/10 — if not for a late-game bug that tarnished the entire experience. I think the 1/10 is reasonable given his experience.
According the the Jimquisition review, I doubt it. He died over and over on the same section and never mentioned anything about deleting the file.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Before people complain about Jim's review. He enjoyed the game, would have been ~8/10 but he ran into a gamebreaking bug.
It is in the game yes.. and as someone on twitter put it.
but it sucks if you encounter a bug that makes you die over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and again and the file gets deleted because of that.. then you get a score of 1/10 ..
Kenzodielocke
Banned
You get this curse everytime you die and if it's too much, permadeath.
Is that an option or is it just forced on you?
xrnzaaas
Member
What? I refuse to believe that happens on the default difficulty setting.
E after all.Metro GameCentral. 6/10
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/08/hellblade-senuas-sacrifice-review-the-road-to-hell-6836027/
Destructoid. 7.5/10
https://www.destructoid.com/review-hellblade-senua-s-sacrifice-452614.phtml
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/08/hellblade-senuas-sacrifice-review-the-road-to-hell-6836027/
Destructoid. 7.5/10
https://www.destructoid.com/review-hellblade-senua-s-sacrifice-452614.phtml
GhostTrick
Banned
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I think it happens on any setting. How deaths you get is tied to difficulty.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
For anyone curious on Jim's review, for the moment he gave it a 1/10 because he encountered a game breaking bug which made it where he couldn't continue, and he ran into it multiple times. If they fix it, he says he'll change his score.
His score up to the point he got to before running into this bug would've been an 8/10 he says.
His score up to the point he got to before running into this bug would've been an 8/10 he says.
Yeah i would give the game 1 out of 10 aswell if this is forced upon you.
Sangetsu-II
Member
I doubt many could die the way Jim did, so you'll be fine.
I'll copy my post in here too. :d
I gave the game a 6.5 (out of 10) on Everyeye.it
Honestly, as a fan of Ninja Theory (who particularly LOVED DmC) I was quite disappointed by Hellblade. As I wrote in my quote, some of the elements are definitely there and are also very high quality - above all the audio design is simply stellar, with David García proving to be one hell of a sound designer after his already amazing work on RiME, but the performance by Melina Juergens in the role of Senua is basically at the same impressive level of the audio department - but unfortunately the gameplay is just pretty mediocre and absolutely not on par with the rest: it's by far the worst aspect of the project, and considering we're talking about a video GAME I think it's a significant problem.
More so if you consider that this is a traditional "gamey" game, not something along the lines of a walking simulator (despite sharing quite a few things with those).
Simply put, the puzzles - or I should say the puzzle, considering it's basically just one kind of puzzle repeated all over the adventure, with some minor twists to the formula here and there - are simplistic, uninspired, repetitive and never particularly rewarding, and the very same adjectives could be used to describe the shallow combat system (which is however NOT the focus of the game, with combat being probably around the 30% of the experience). And the slow rhythm unfortunately doesn't make things better in that sense.
Honestly I know that time and money were probably big constrains for a project like this, one that proudly sits between AAA and indie, but I can't help but feel that all the gameplay elements could and should have been better for Hellblade to truly shine. And it's truly a pity because the studio is clearly full of talent and the project is nevertheless a fascinating one.
I gave the game a 6.5 (out of 10) on Everyeye.it
Honestly, as a fan of Ninja Theory (who particularly LOVED DmC) I was quite disappointed by Hellblade. As I wrote in my quote, some of the elements are definitely there and are also very high quality - above all the audio design is simply stellar, with David García proving to be one hell of a sound designer after his already amazing work on RiME, but the performance by Melina Juergens in the role of Senua is basically at the same impressive level of the audio department - but unfortunately the gameplay is just pretty mediocre and absolutely not on par with the rest: it's by far the worst aspect of the project, and considering we're talking about a video GAME I think it's a significant problem.
More so if you consider that this is a traditional "gamey" game, not something along the lines of a walking simulator (despite sharing quite a few things with those).
Simply put, the puzzles - or I should say the puzzle, considering it's basically just one kind of puzzle repeated all over the adventure, with some minor twists to the formula here and there - are simplistic, uninspired, repetitive and never particularly rewarding, and the very same adjectives could be used to describe the shallow combat system (which is however NOT the focus of the game, with combat being probably around the 30% of the experience). And the slow rhythm unfortunately doesn't make things better in that sense.
Honestly I know that time and money were probably big constrains for a project like this, one that proudly sits between AAA and indie, but I can't help but feel that all the gameplay elements could and should have been better for Hellblade to truly shine. And it's truly a pity because the studio is clearly full of talent and the project is nevertheless a fascinating one.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Well, the game has an easy mode and the default mode is dynamic, so if you die too much, it will set you to easy. Also, if this was a big problem, it wouldn't get so many good reviews. I dunno, I will wait for a sale anyway.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Metacritic doesn't allow score changes so he might as well leave at 1. Kinda messed up to be honest.
OrbitalBeard
Member
As far as I'm concerned, if your embargo ends on the day a game releases, anything is fair game. If the embargo had lifted pre-release, it would have made sense to hold back the review until launch, in order to see if Ninja Theory could address the issue before consumers can purchase it.
THe_DeiCiDe
Member
Game looks amazing. Absolutely loved Heavenly Sword as well.
Now I just need to come up with some extra cash.
The permadeath thing actually sounds cool to me, since it ties into the narrative. I mean, it's not like it's a 40 hour game, that would be brutal.
Now I just need to come up with some extra cash.
The permadeath thing actually sounds cool to me, since it ties into the narrative. I mean, it's not like it's a 40 hour game, that would be brutal.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Why? Should he not let us know about it? He found out the reason behind the bug, the bug deleted his only save (you only get one save)
Not his problem.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Lol i thought jim's score was a 10. Ouch.
"Game is great. Story is interesting, the fights are fun, visuals are awesomne but 5 minutes before the end of the game I had a save deleting bug sonI ignore everything else and just rate the bug. 1/10"
Legit
(Yeah I know, thats not exactly how it was, but turning a game from 8/10 to 1/10 because of a bug is not the right way. And it doesnt turn the game into an unplayable mess)
Legit
(Yeah I know, thats not exactly how it was, but turning a game from 8/10 to 1/10 because of a bug is not the right way. And it doesnt turn the game into an unplayable mess)
GhostTrick
Banned
As far as I'm concerned, QA can miss a bug or two. No harm to contact a small team of developpers about it. We're not talking about a huge AAA publisher here.
Why ? To fix it before release of course !
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Lol i thought jim's score was a 10/10. Ouch.
A bug that no longer allows you to play..makes the game unplayable.
OrbitalBeard
Member
In the context of a review, the consumer is always more important than the developer. The size of the team does not change this in the slightest.
Some of you are making me very sad.
Then I think he should have given it around that score or contacted the devs instead of nuking its meta/opencritic averages and having his short quote be "An unplayable, broken piece of crap."
SomedayTheFire
Member
Uh yes it does? It literally broke his game and he couldn't play it anymore other than restarting the whole game.
Why? He has his scale, he's used it. Why should he protect the developers, it shouldn't be a reviewers job to protect them.
The bug has literally made it so that he cannot finish the game.
I don't know what you would consider "unplayable" but that's about as damn close as you can get to a textbook example.
GhostTrick
Banned
Eh, that also benefit the consumer though. Say Jim got wind of the bug like 3 days ago. Maybe contacting devs about it could've meant said bug wouldn't exist anymore. And yes, the size of the devs matter because it means they might have skipped a bug that they couldn't replicate and telling them beforehand, to fix it before release, instead of keeping it as a surprise until release isn't a good thing to do imo.
Now, maybe Jim did contacted them about the issue.
Jawbreaker
Member
Yeah, this is a good point.
ChaosSmurf
Member
Y'all really, really shouldn't worry about the permadeath stuff.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Heck, I can agree to this. But if the bug isn't fixed by launch, the 1/10 should absolutely stand. And I also don't think his avoidance to do this makes his current score any less valid.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Who knows if he did or not? Seems, I say seems because I don't know for sure, he did because he knows exactly what the bug is and how it was caused.
This is only Ninja Theory's fault. The embargo ended today, release day. The bug exists. 1/10 is a fair score in light of that.
I'll take your word for it. Just seems like an incredibly odd choice that will definitely sour a fair number of people who happen to encounter it. I'd personally rather have that be an option that I can disable so that I can enjoy my experience even just a little bit more.