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Osama Bin Laden's son in law caught, brought to US

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Bin Laden's son-in-law, once al Qaeda's 'mouthpiece,' held by U.S.
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(CNN) -- Osama bin Laden's son-in-law, who has served as an al Qaeda spokesman, was captured and has been brought to the United States, two administration officials and a federal law enforcement official said Thursday.

Sulaiman Abu Ghaith is being held in New York, and will appear in court Friday to face federal charges, the law enforcement official said.

A sealed indictment lays out charges against him, the administration officials said.

Abu Ghaith was captured within the past week in Jordan, according to a spokesman for U.S. Rep. Peter King of New York.

Congress was notified when Ghaith was taken into U.S. custody, the administration officials said.

The U.S. Treasury Department has described Abu Ghaith as "the official spokesman of al Qaeda since his appointment to that position after the attacks of September 11, 2001."

He appeared in videos as "the mouthpiece of bin Laden," the department said.

Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reported that Abu Ghaith was seized in Ankara "after a tipoff" from the CIA, and was held for 33 days. A Turkish court decided to release him because he had not committed a crime in Turkey. He was considered "stateless" because Kuwait had stripped him of his nationality after he appeared in videos supporting the 9/11 attacks, the report said.

Abu Ghaith entered Turkey illegally from Iran, so he could be deported to Iran or another country, the report said. After Iran did not accept him, Turkey decided to send him to Kuwait through Jordan. The CIA captured Abu Ghaith when he was passing from Jordan into Kuwait, the newspaper said.

The U.S. government did not immediately confirm the report.

Abu Ghaith was a high school teacher and preacher at a mosque in Kuwait, the U.S. Treasury says on its website. "He fought in Afghanistan, accused the U.S. government of killing children in Iraq through U.N. sanctions, and joined Muslim guerillas fighting in Bosnia-Herzegovina in the summer of 1994."

He was later banned from his mosque for using his sermons to attack the government.

Before September 11, 2001, "his mission was to recruit elements for training in bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan."

The U.S. 9/11 Commission said Abu Ghaith "reportedly" supported the idea of a major operation directly against the United States in 2001.

Bin Laden, leader of the terrorist al Qaeda network that staged the 9/11attacks on the United States, was killed in a U.S. Navy SEAL raid in Pakistan in 2011.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't know if they did, but I don't know why they would.



No, of course not. We do summarily execute people. I'm asking why we don't summarily execute him.

We summarily execute people we can't take alive. If Osama Bin Laden was caught in a speed trap just outside Chicago for doing 80 in a 65 the arresting officer would not have just shot him in the face.
 
I'm glad he is captured and not killed. If he is alive he could potentially hold information on whereabouts of various leaders and activities.
 

Bombadil

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I'm glad he is captured and not killed. If he is alive he could potentially hold information on whereabouts of various leaders and activities.

1. He won't talk.
2. The way al-Qaeda (sic) operated is through independent cells that withhold most knowledge from each other for this very reason. One of them gets caught, he knows nothing.
 
1. He won't talk.
2. The way al-Qaeda (sic) operated is through independent cells that withhold most knowledge from each other for this very reason. One of them gets caught, he knows nothing.

Many people in higher up Al-Qaeda have talked. Even if he didn't though the people closely related or associated with him could potentially be tracked in multiple ways. Even if they are just people in his close cell.

I find it hard to believe that are really that independent though. You can't run massive and world wide operations from closed off cells, you need some form of communication. Osama used couriers.
 
We summarily execute people we can't take alive. If Osama Bin Laden was caught in a speed trap just outside Chicago for doing 80 in a 65 the arresting officer would not have just shot him in the face.

The US military has a yearly budget of over $1.000.000.000.000. They can capture any person on this planet alive. If they want.
 

Balphon

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We summarily execute people we can't take alive. If Osama Bin Laden was caught in a speed trap just outside Chicago for doing 80 in a 65 the arresting officer would not have just shot him in the face.

But what about if we declared a war on speeding?

The speeders aren't just some ordinary enemy! They're in our cities! Subverting our laws!
 

Kad5

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Many people in higher up Al-Qaeda have talked. Even if he didn't though the people closely related or associated with him could potentially be tracked in multiple ways. Even if they are just people in his close cell.

I find it hard to believe that are really that independent though. You can't run massive and world wide operations from closed off cells, you need some form of communication. Osama used couriers.

They were originally a somewhat centralized organization but as the years have gone by Al-Qaeda has essentially become a brand name. It is a very decentralized organization with cells that act pretty independently. It's really as simple as a group of Islamist extremists congregating together and giving themselves the name.

This makes it harder to attack Al-Qaeda since it isn't really a central organization. It's not like in most wars where you usually have a central target to take out to end the war.
 
Gemüsepizza;49491129 said:
The US military has a yearly budget of over $1.000.000.000.000. They can capture any person on this planet alive. If they want.

The last value I took a gander at is ~$670 billion, which includes ~$80 billion for the "Overseas Contingency Operations" which are rapidly being scaled down. Where's this $1 trillion+ claim coming from, bro?

Also, that spending is divvied a million and one ways and a large value is in no way necessarily indicative of an ability to capture people overseas.
 
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