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Official video: Xbox One coming to China.
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Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
Return of the king? For realsies this time?
Nah, but I hope both Microsoft and Sony have success opening up a new global market for gaming.
Nah, but I hope both Microsoft and Sony have success opening up a new global market for gaming.
HORRORSHØW
Member
good luck.
krypt0nian
Banned
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
What makes you say that? Maybe they're going to announce it at E3. If Microsoft is not personally localizing games and mandating the over the top publication requirement in China, you can bet that publishers will knock at Sony's door to ensure their launch is close to Xbox's.
With that said, I'm not sure if this is good or bad news for gaming in general. This can do more damage than good. I am very optimistic that this will be great for the industry as a whole, but expect to see a lot of hurdles. Quite a few agree that localization and diversification is not the answer to conquering Chinese market.
Good move by Microsoft for taking this step.
Those poor 6B other people D:
I think the majority has not enough money, 300M is realistic.
Microsoft will beat them, but I'm sure Sony will launch there not long after.
Just choked on my drink.
ChosenPredator
Banned
you've masterfully directed how this thread will be directed, lol.
To the video though it seems like this will be a pretty interesting venture for Microsoft but I do agree...something about Yusuff.. I don't click with that dude.
It was just a number in my head, 100M > is more realistic.
china isn't exactly a new market. AFAIK XB1 and PS4 has been sold in china through unofficial channels for awhile now. there are also quite a lot of people from China on Steam.
hell, there is even a CS GO China Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Csgo-China
hell, there is even a CS GO China Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Csgo-China
BlackBuzzard
Banned
You are high if you think 300M will buy an Xbox One.
He means 300M of potential buyers who have the disposable income for an Xbox One. Not 300M sales in China.
Nealand Liquor
Member
Pretty sure he was estimating the population that could afford an xb1; Not the amount that will purchase it.
I realize that, and I still choked,
Check the proportion of Americans who bought Xbox 360. And there you go.
brickarts295
Member
Waste of time imo, should release to more t2 and 3 countries.
People tend to buy the best product for bragging right, and Sony is known for quality in Asia.
And the PlayStation brand is really strong in Asia, some of my family asked me to send them ps4 instead of money for lunar new year.
People tend to buy the best product for bragging right, and Sony is known for quality in Asia.
And the PlayStation brand is really strong in Asia, some of my family asked me to send them ps4 instead of money for lunar new year.
Hidden One
Member
Microsoft gonna own the china market. GG Sony.
It's complete insanity to assume that 300M are even close to having disposable income for this.
The average annual income in 2012 for the country was a measly $2,100 dollars, while even in Shanghai it was $4,700.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/world/asia/survey-in-china-shows-wide-income-gap.html?_r=0
"it would be cool to buy games legitimately."
Is piracy that big in their culture? The world likes to joke about knock off and piracy being rampant in China.
The market is huge. If it proves to be worth it Sony will join sooner than later. But there could be the need for some education. Also, is content going to be full price in this territory or region?
Is piracy that big in their culture? The world likes to joke about knock off and piracy being rampant in China.
The market is huge. If it proves to be worth it Sony will join sooner than later. But there could be the need for some education. Also, is content going to be full price in this territory or region?
Could be a game changer. Could be nothing. We'll see. The gaming market has needed something catered to the chinese market for a long time. If even just a fraction of Chinese are interested in the console gaming market, they will easily overtake Japan, seeing as China is 10 times bigger.
shinra-bansho
Member
More than half the population still live on less than $5 a day. I don't think they're buying an XBO anytime soon.
I imagine those that can afford this sort of luxury good are already importing this sort of luxury good, tbh.
I imagine those that can afford this sort of luxury good are already importing this sort of luxury good, tbh.
plasmawave
Banned
Speak American damnit!
You do know the console market exists already as a grey market that the government doesn't give an eff about?
And China probably don't care about console gaming. PC is king, KING, of the gaming industry. They love their MOBA, and MMO.
Yea but a grey market probably doesn't get much awareness via advertising or other forms of marketing.
Also are their genre preferences and general favour of PC gaming not likely to be a direct result of consoles not being distributed there? Seems a bit silly to say that they all prefer PC gaming, when its the only legitimate option.
I could be totally wrong and only time will tell but for some reason I just dont see the Xbone selling well in China.. sure probably more than it would in Japan, but thats not saying much.
Also about Sony not making a move.. doesn't most of China still have a stigma against Japanese products? It sounds like to get the Xbox there they still had to partner up with a Chinese company.. I am not sure a big Chinese company wants to make a joint venture with a Japanese company.
Not claiming to be an expert on this or anything, just seems like there is still anti japanese stuff on the news from china every now and then. Figured this would affect trade surely..
Also about Sony not making a move.. doesn't most of China still have a stigma against Japanese products? It sounds like to get the Xbox there they still had to partner up with a Chinese company.. I am not sure a big Chinese company wants to make a joint venture with a Japanese company.
Not claiming to be an expert on this or anything, just seems like there is still anti japanese stuff on the news from china every now and then. Figured this would affect trade surely..
Which has a Per capita income of 50,000 USD.
5 times larger than China's, and that's even before accounting for the extreme inequality that makes the median incredibly lower.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
I'm not saying going into China is destined to fail at all, but claims on how "huge" the market is are completely absurd.
If anyone is going to "own the China market" (which I doubt is going to happen), it'll most likely be Nintendo, due to less violence on games.
wapplew
Member
PS4 have better chance of success in China to be honest.
- Better MMO and F2P support and lineup
- Better localization
- PS+ free games
- Better Japanese game support
- Cheaper
All they need to do is setup local PSN frame work and they are good to go.
Also there is rumors about MS Sony and Nintendo will have booth on China Joy (China biggest game show) this year, I think no one is late to the party.
- Better MMO and F2P support and lineup
- Better localization
- PS+ free games
- Better Japanese game support
- Cheaper
All they need to do is setup local PSN frame work and they are good to go.
Also there is rumors about MS Sony and Nintendo will have booth on China Joy (China biggest game show) this year, I think no one is late to the party.
JordanN
Banned
Not to defend Sony on this but, what's stopping Sony from releasing PS4 there?
It's not like PS4 not being sold in China =/= PS4 never coming to China ever.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
DIdnt Nintendo already try to get into the Chinese market with this?
Dreamgazer
Member
Genre preference to PC is usually due to localization and piracy.
Console games are rarely localized outside of first party titles and the "easy" stuff (ex: Dynasty Warriors.) So even till now, console gaming are reserved for those who are willing to put up with Japanese/English.
Yes, Non-localized PC titles don't sell well in China either.
As for distribution - anyone who wants a console knows where to get one.
Like every other hot and popular tech device that isn't officially released in China.
It's not grey to the point where you have to walk into some secret basement shop or something.
China isn't Japan.
The grey market is already extremely widespread and cheaper.
Chinese gamers also heavily favor F2P PC games because they're free.
Other companies have attempted to sell consoles in China and they were largely unsuccessful.
Hidden One
Member
My post was sarcasm.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
You must not have used the new Kinect. It can be super close to you and still be flawless.
Their preferences are based on F2P, and netcafe model.
People don't make that much over there, and these games allow them to spend a few coins here and there to enjoy the contents that these games offer them.
And of course, privacy on PC is easier.
We will see though if buying a console "legitimately" actually affects anything.
But if it does, the Playstation and Nintendo brand will reap the reward more than the XB. Those two brands are very well known, even to my grandma living oversea since PS/Nintendo stuff are always in their movie as reference/parody.
Dragonborn
Member
I agree but at I doubt China will do anything for the current gen consoles. The people who can afford them and want them can probably already get them anyways.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Apple now makes one eighth (12.5%) of its revenue from China, significantly above Japan, more than half of all of Europe, and around a third of what it makes in the US. And it's growing very quickly, and every single quarter they mention China in their investment calls or releases. And that's despite difficulties signing carriers to sell the iPhone.
China is also the major driver of Hollywood film revenue, as increasingly tentpole movies make their profit thanks to international BO for which China is one of the main growth areas and one of the biggest overall by size.
Every platform owner, if they have even basic sense, will be scrambling to get a foothold in China.
China is also the major driver of Hollywood film revenue, as increasingly tentpole movies make their profit thanks to international BO for which China is one of the main growth areas and one of the biggest overall by size.
Every platform owner, if they have even basic sense, will be scrambling to get a foothold in China.