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Robinspain · Mar 10, 2006

ADESE presented the results few days ago:

(...)
ventas de hardware en España este 2005,
55% de dominio para PlayStation 2,
20% para Game Boy Advance,
10% para PSP,
10% para DS y un
5% para X360.

(...)

Today we received some news about hardware sales of 2006. Since January PSP and xbox 360 are the first and second best sold platforms. February has been an excelent mont for the two platforms, and both are expected to increase his sales even more this month with the release of 2 packs for psp (console + f1 or console + medievik, both for 249e) and a bunch of new games for xbox360 and psp. In the rest of europe, both platforms are also leading hardware sales since january. Congratulations to Sony and Microsoft

Striek · Mar 10, 2006

Kinda mirrors what we heard about UK (PSP+X360 top 2 for 2006).

But I thought Nintendo released some image showing DS outselling PSP by ~150k in Spain.

Taker666 · Mar 10, 2006

Er..why no GC/Xbox?

ThirdEye · Mar 10, 2006

Taker666 said:
Er..why no GC/Xbox?

55% + 20% + 10% + 10% + 5% = 100%

Striek · Mar 10, 2006

Taker666 said:
Er..why no GC/Xbox?

Statistically irrelevant

Oldschool · Mar 10, 2006

Source?

ThirdEye · Mar 10, 2006

Striek said:
Statistically irrelevant

Or maybe incorporated into the Xbox 360 figure as 5% in 2005 looks a bit high only for 360

Striek · Mar 10, 2006

ThirdEye said:
Or maybe incorporated into the Xbox 360 figure as 5% in 2005 looks a bit high only for 360

Hmmm...just taking a closer look, it really makes no sense unless they're software sales anyway.
55% PS2? No way. We know the PSP+DS sold ~500k apiece, and the PS2 didn't sell 5M in Spain last year, we can be guarenteed that much.

Fuzzy · Mar 10, 2006

I noticed this and thought the Pro Evo fans would enjoy it.

Source: http://www.adese.es/pdf/Consumo_Videojuegos_2005.pdf

Someone with better Spanish comprehension than me should go through the rest of the report.

ThirdEye · Mar 10, 2006

Striek said:
Hmmm...just taking a closer look, it really makes no sense unless they're software sales anyway.

I'm no expert on Spanish but:

ventas de hardware en España

says something I guess.

Mmmkay · Mar 10, 2006

Striek said:
Hmmm...just taking a closer look, it really makes no sense unless they're software sales anyway.
55% PS2? No way. We know the PSP+DS sold ~500k apiece, and the PS2 didn't sell 5M in Spain last year, we can be guarenteed that much.

If they're software then I think they're wrong. According to this study on 2005 from the adese website, software is:

[fake edit]Bah, beaten already.

Striek · Mar 10, 2006

ThirdEye said:
I'm no expert on Spanish but: says something I guess.

I saw that. It was my bad maths partly (2.5M not 5M), but the PS2 sales still seem extra-ordinarily high.

maxmars · Mar 10, 2006

I don't see anywhere hardware numbers by platform.
An interesting tidbit is this:

European Top 5 - console hardware (milllllion units sold)

Code:

Total - 13,14
UK    -  3,90
DE    -  2,92
FR    -  2,76
ES    -  2,01
IT    -  1,55

ThirdEye · Mar 10, 2006

Striek said:
I saw that. It was my bad maths partly (2.5M not 5M), but the PS2 sales still seem extra-ordinarily high.

Seeing the software graph Mmmkay posted the Xbox/GC software sales are rather tiny, the hw sales should match.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Mar 10, 2006

I don't see those percentages anywhere in the report.

Total hardware sales are 2.012.000 units (4th market in Europe). There is also a % of software sales that was posted above. Top10 software for entire 2005 is also there, and also posted here. (Source: GfK)

Monorojo · Mar 11, 2006

First UK and now Spain....

DS's lead is decreasing everyday in Europe, its truly only a matter of time

jarrod · Mar 11, 2006

Monorojo said:
First UK and now Spain....

DS's lead is decreasing everyday in Europe, its truly only a matter of time

Vive la France!!

Calidor · Mar 11, 2006

where is Nintendogs?

btw i found that pic interesting:

50% of videogames are pirated :lol

Fuzzy · Mar 11, 2006

Calidor said:
where is Nintendogs?

btw i found that pic interesting:

50% of videogames are pirated :lol

That is bad. :lol
I also like one part you didn't keep in that pic, the source: FAP. :lol

thestopsign · Mar 12, 2006

Edit: Nevermind. I was looking at the Gamecube sales.

Frankfurter · Mar 12, 2006

Robinspain said:
ADESE presented the results few days ago:

(...)
ventas de hardware en España este 2005,
55% de dominio para PlayStation 2,
20% para Game Boy Advance,
10% para PSP,
10% para DS y un
5% para X360.

(...)

Today we received some news about hardware sales of 2006. Since January PSP and xbox 360 are the first and second best sold platforms. February has been an excelent mont for the two platforms, and both are expected to increase his sales even more this month with the release of 2 packs for psp (console + f1 or console + medievik, both for 249e) and a bunch of new games for xbox360 and psp. In the rest of europe, both platforms are also leading hardware sales since january. Congratulations to Sony and Microsoft

Great, that is more or less drastically different than what we have heard about ~1.5 months ago.

So a 59% marketshare for DS and a 41% marketshare for other next gen handhelds (i.e. the PSP), or ~425k DS (announcement made by Nintendo) and ~295k PSP (calculated from the 59/41 marketshares).

http://www.vandal.net/cgi-bin/vernoticia.pl?n=19314

ThirdEye · Mar 12, 2006

Frankfurter said:
Great, that is more or less drastically different than what we have heard about ~1.5 months ago.

So a 59% marketshare for DS and a 41% marketshare for other next gen handhelds (i.e. the PSP), or ~425k DS (announcement made by Nintendo) and ~295k PSP (calculated from the 59/41 marketshares).

http://www.vandal.net/cgi-bin/vernoticia.pl?n=19314

Is that research company (AC Nielsen) that Nintendo cites more reliable than ADESE?

Mau ® · Mar 12, 2006

Go PSP!!! BUY PSP!!! Its sexy and fun!!! :lol

Im surprised Eye Toy Play 3 (which we have yet to see a stateside release) sells so well. I guess Eye Toy hit it off quite well in EU.

Frankfurter · Mar 12, 2006

ThirdEye said:
Is that research company (AC Nielsen) that Nintendo cites more reliable than ADESE?

I have no clue

Actually I did a quick search to find out if Nintendo bought AC Nielsen or sth. crazy like that, but as it seems they are a quite big market researcher.

Btw. taking a quick look through the report, the hardware numbers posted in the first post, aren't in it. So they are either bogus or I am blind

Robinspain · Mar 12, 2006

They come from the press note amd fom an interview with Iglesias Redondo, secretary of ADESE. An extract of this interview is also found at vandal.net

http://www.vandal.net/cgi-bin/vernoticia.pl?n=19693&p=

Gessle · Mar 12, 2006

The numbers on the first post come from a Q&A session with some ADESE rep, and they are rough estimates, so don't take them very seriously.

Best selling games of 2005 (general and by platform) here:
http://www.adese.es/pdf/top_2005.pdf

Majmun · Mar 12, 2006

Ps2 is a monster. I wonder what a pricedrop will do.

Frankfurter · Mar 12, 2006

Gessle said:
The numbers on the first post come from a Q&A session with some ADESE rep, and they are rough estimates, so don't take them very seriously.

Best selling games of 2005 (general and by platform) here:
http://www.adese.es/pdf/top_2005.pdf

Are you from Spain? If they are "rough estimates" I do think that it isn't too far fetched to say that the numbers from AC Nielsen are most likely more precise than that.
Are the hardware news for 2006 (PSP and X360 leading) also from that interview and if so is it more like "We ... guess ... that PSP and X360 are the best selling hardwares for the first two months" or more like "Our market research in various european countries shows that PSP and X360 have sold more hardware than the other consoles/handhelds in every european country"?

Vaandaviii · Mar 12, 2006

Taker666 said:
Er..why no GC/Xbox?

Seriously, I'm spanish and I can tell you the GC/Xbox sales are absolutely below pathetic here.

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