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The Order: 1886 - New Gameplay Footage Released Before Embargo

jet1911

Member
I saw some cape clipping! :(

Looks amazing, texture work on some of the environement is kinda "eh" but everything else looks great, they naiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiled the lighting.
 

Xenon

Member
Could you post a link to all those videos you've been watching so that we can judge for ourselves?

Tons of responses talking about how this is best looking greatest game ever go unchallenged. Yet negative opinions get called out for not having enough information and quality media to go on, too funny.
 
For all those who chime in and say gears. I want you to go into the TitanFall thread and tell the truth and shame the devil and let it be known. That TitanFall is a rip off of "StarHawk". Go in there and say it with conviction and pride, say it with your chest.
 
ITT ppl get blinded by good graphics and cinematic visuals.
gameplay-wise it looks like a generic 3rd person corridor shooter with QTEs.

You have to remember, not all games need to have innovative new gameplay. Just look at Uncharted, look at the last of us, bioshock etc etc they dont do any radical change in gameplay mechanics but they do tell the story, draws you in and creates a world 100% better than anyone else. The Times of Innovative gameplay is gone, there will always be some other game that has done it before..

I dont mind if they use the duck and hide gun gameplay, as long as the tell the story well and draws the player in to the world they have created, as long as the gun play is up to par with the best of them. That is what makes a game good or not IMO,
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
Tons of responses talking about how this is best looking greatest game ever go unchallenged. Yet negative opinions get called out for not having enough information and quality media to go on, too funny.

Well, that's because we can see the visuals ... (?)

What an odd thing to say.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Gorgeous. The actual footage fell into the trap I was hoping they would avoid, just showing combat with human enemies, bland weapons, and no destruction, but it looks absolutely insane visually and still has plenty of time to improve.

The motion blur implementation is pretty incredible. It was a bit distracting and overdone in the reveal trailer but here it looks awesome and makes the animation look smooth as hell.

The melee QTE was cool but I was hoping it would be more interactive than that.
 

Mengetsu

Member
Wow...I knew it was gonna be impressive but to see the game is basically the CG scenes we have seen is amazing. Dat cloth and such.
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gaming_noob

Member
For all those who chime in and say gears. I want you to go into the TitanFall thread and tell the truth and shame the devil and let it be known. That TitanFall is a rip off of "StarHawk". Go in there and say it with conviction and pride, say it with your chest.

Pretty sure this is bannable.
 

TheMan

Member
i'm cautiously optimistic. graphics are spectacular, but the gameplay looks pretty ho-hum so far. of course, we've only seen a small snippet of in-game footage, but it does not lookninnovative.
 

RulkezX

Member
I like how it's expected that this game is somehow the second coming. It's a game. It's just one of the first PS4 exclusives with a lot of development money and talent behind it. I very much admire what they're doing stylistically and technically and it'll probably be jaw-dropping to see in person, but it's a 3rd-person action game. It wont solve all your problems or get you pregnant.

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Prine

Banned
For all those who chime in and say gears. I want you to go into the TitanFall thread and tell the truth and shame the devil and let it be known. That TitanFall is a rip off of "StarHawk". Go in there and say it with conviction and pride, say it with your chest.

Ehh i see Gears inspiration through and through, its borrowing Gears implementation of stop/pop mechanic, its not a bad thing,
 

Ricky_R

Member
Tons of responses talking about how this is best looking greatest game ever go unchallenged. Yet negative opinions get called out for not having enough information and quality media to go on, too funny.

The dude he was replying to was talking about gameplay which we haven't properly seen. Most of the praise the game is getting (while hyperbolic at times) has been about visuals which have been exposed considerably with this leaked trailer and screen shots.
 

Hyunashi

Member
I see. Its a terribly fallacious way of thinking though.

At the end of the day, we still have barely any footage of the game or on what it will play like so I do agree that its ridiculous when people say it will play like another game with only a smidge of footage.
 

doofy102

Member
gameplay wise, wasn't TLoU a generic 3rd person survival horror game? Wasn't Bioshock Infinite a generic FPS? Wasn't Super Mario World 3D a generic platformer?

Nope. The Last of Us felt like a fresh kind of third person combat game because of its emphasis on guerilla-warfare like tactics, the low amount of resources given to the player and the powerful role of melee. When the first gameplay video was shown, it made an impression. It looked familiar yet fresh.

Bioshock was far from a generic FPS and you know it.

Super Mario 3D world had level design which managed to make the most of '3D' platforming but somehow compressed it to the point where it almost resembled 2.5D. It is unlike pretty much any other 3D design out there.

There is nothing new about The Order to be seen, yet. People have a right to say it's generic compared to other, more unique games. It doesn't simply boil down to 'everything is generic' like you claim.
 
Looks absolutely glorious, the visuals are above and beyond anything I've seen, my only visual complaint is the lack of bump mapping on the brick textures which seems like an oversight considering the amount of detail on the character models and the cloth physics.

We still don't know much about the game play though, is it all visually foggy, gray and depressing? Is it all small corridor style gunplay? So many questions but it's really on my radar now. Also like the spin on the QTEs.
 

Dead Man

Member
Gorgeous. The actual footage fell into the trap I was hoping they would avoid, just showing combat with human enemies, bland weapons, and no destruction, but it looks absolutely insane visually and still has plenty of time to improve.

The motion blur implementation is pretty incredible. It was a bit distracting and overdone in the reveal trailer but here it looks awesome and makes the animation look smooth as hell.

The melee QTE was cool but I was hoping it would be more interactive than that.

Yeah, that is the sort of thing that makes me thing the game will be okay, but not great to me. I would rather no scripted combat elements.
 

Rozart

Member
gameplay wise, wasn't TLoU a generic 3rd person survival horror game? Wasn't Bioshock Infinite a generic FPS? Wasn't Super Mario World 3D a generic platformer?

It is such a flippant dismissal based on seeing barely anything from which to make such a judgement.

Agreed. That argument is so contrived. It's such a reductive and simplistic way of looking at the game.

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Next gen mustaches cast shadows.

Who knew mustaches could make one look so stylish.
 

gaming_noob

Member
Like back seat modding is? ;)

Oh I believe that is as well. Sorry...having said that what you stated is sorrrt of back seat modding as well :p. Let's call it even....
But anyway, this is my most anticipated game on the PS4 and having played Shadow Falls, I really want one by the end of the year.
 
Pretty sure this is bannable.

Why is this bannable? I just asked for consistency, that is all. Games in the 8th gen will rip off elements from other games. This is known, hardly anything is new. So for those who chime in and say hey it looks like game x, forget that Gears got its cover system from another game and is not the originator.
 

kinggroin

Banned
The Times of Innovative gameplay is gone, there will always be some other game that has done it before..

I dont mind if they use the duck and hide gun gameplay, as long as the tell the story well and draws the player in to the world they have created.

I hope so hard that this kind of thinking isn't shared amongst developers. What a cop-out defeatist attitude.

Fuck that story bullshit, innovative or not, I want tight compelling gameplay that keeps me engaged with variety from scenario to scenario. If there's a great story on top, THATS the cherry.
 
Link pls.

It is the same. We will have to wait until the embargo to get proper quality footage. I don't think this footage is giving a good impression of the texturing. I can't image high res texturing being a problem. It is near ubiquitous in the PS4 games I have played. That is definitely something this gen needs to fix. Even in stuff like Uncharted some of the low res texturing was pretty evident to me.
 

Dead Man

Member
Oh I believe that is as well. Sorry...having said that what you stated is sorrrt of back seat modding as well :p. Let's call it even....
But anyway, this is my most anticipated game on the PS4 and having played Shadow Falls, I really want one by the end of the year.

We are doomed!! :D
 

Kimppis

Member
I love that art style and setting. TPS that doesn't take place in 'murica or in space (featuring 'international' (read: Anglo-American) UN-style organization and/or military)? Count me in. Looks incredible, but I need some uncompressed footage.
 
ITT people trying to be contraversal and shit on the just because.

I really would love know what some of you expected, gameplay wise.

Its guys with guns because guys with guns sell. Have a problem with that? Look in the Mirror :- its your fault.

The order would have the budget it has or the visuals it does if it wasn't a shooter with pretty common elements.
 

Neuro

Member
For all those who chime in and say gears. I want you to go into the TitanFall thread and tell the truth and shame the devil and let it be known. That TitanFall is a rip off of "StarHawk". Go in there and say it with conviction and pride, say it with your chest.

Err where is this coming...Most ideas in games have been already done there is very few actual innovation left in gaming in this day and age, its more about refinement...

To quote Fight Club "Everything is a copy of a copy of a copy..."

Coming to Order 1886, if they can give a fun game I think they deserve respect, how is everyone on this thread talking about the technology and how its similar or not similar to other games.

Talk about what kind of experiences can this offer given the fact it is a next generation game.

I am reiterating the point again can these so called "insiders" tell us what is the AI like is it reactive or generic...How much is the AI aware of the environment around him, will he trick the player, how do the setting influence your gameplay mechanics is it static or does the environment change as the player ploughs through...

What kind of set pieces can we expect...how deep are the characters within the universe....
 
I hope so hard that this kind of thinking isn't shared amongst developers. What a cop-out defeatist attitude.

Fuck that story bullshit, innovative or not, I want tight compelling gameplay that keeps me engaged with variety from scenario to scenario. If there's a great story on top, THATS the cherry.

I didnt say its not possible, Its just much harder to do than it was before due to so many games out there that has already "locked" it down and set the bar for what is good gun play in a game. Unless we get a NEW controller that does not have analog sticks and buttons then yes we will see new ways of interacting with the characters we play.

You can only do so much with a controller that has looked the same for all these years.
 

doofy102

Member
ITT people trying to be contraversal and shit on the just because.

I really would love know what some of you expected, gameplay wise.

Its guys with guns because guys with guns sell. Have a problem with that? Look in the Mirror :- its your fault.

The order would have the budget it has or the visuals it does if it wasn't a shooter with pretty common elements.

Guys with guns are fine. You are missing the point. We want a gunplay/mellee mix of heaven that feels like it's practically begging to have the player come play with it.


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I know this game gets thrown around a lot, but seriously. I didn't even like it that much and it still makes most other third person shooters look incompetent.
 

Akauser

Banned
Pretty stunning to say the least perhaps the movie like look of 21:9 was also able to free up some resources. 1080p for sure.
 

R_Deckard

Member
What I meant it looks great technically but artistically, it's looks blander than the first Gears of War.

Wait...What?? What are you talking about, this looks like the most researched, "organic" feeling period peace yet, Gears was nothing more than an extension of the Unreal american Footballer world with bugs.

This has so much more depth and ambiance around it, I simply cannot wait to see more.

Another cinematic experience with a derivative gameplay. Not interested at all.

And you got this based on a 3 minute Broll...Some people!!
 

Chumpion

Member
Not impressed. For a corridor game @ 30 FPS and 21:9 it should look better. But I'm sure these are not final graphics and the devs will pack on more postprocessing as well for release.
 
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