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PopCap dodges whether PvZ: Garden Warfare is 1080p on Xbox One (update: it's 900p)
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jediyoshi
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Polygons might be an issue.
Zatoichi's Cane
Member
PVZ at 900p.... On "next gen" hardware...
NullPointer
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LukasTaves
Member
Xbone's DDR3 has 3 times the speed of 360's GDDR3 bus.
Also, the picture is not correct, not on an ideal usage anyway, the point of esram is to isolate the biggest bandwidth consumers, not bypass it to the main ram.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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There's no discernible difference when viewing the quoted pictures of Luther.
FuriousDark
Banned
I don't understand how this particular game isn't a native 1080p.
]shinobi602
Member
Please understand.
Nah.
The marketing is terrible. The execution of their vision that they designed the hardware around terrible. The lack of software and experiences to back up those choices is terrible. Their misreading of early adopters and gamer wants is terrible.
The hardware itself is fine for what it was supposed to do.
What it's supposed to do is compete with the PlayStation 4.
Aside from smaller indie titles and sports/racing games, it's fair to assume 1080p would be the exception for Xbone titles going forward.
Yup.
Dragonborn
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To be fair, the Wii U is also a "next gen" console. After all, it does games at 720p/60FPS which apparently is good enough for X1 so why not, lol.
Lactose_Intolerant
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I would bet in 2 years time they are all 1080p, they will just have worse fps than the ps4 and crappier AA solutions.
Not according to MS in May and at E3. Sony is no longer a competitor, they're aiming to win the living room.
vpance
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No, the widest part of the ESRAM funnel should be smaller than the GDDR5 pipe.
Edit: saw the updated pic, lol
Ice cold.
Yo damn
BurnOutBrighter
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Unlikely, IMO. There seem to be issues at the hardware level and these issues may be insurmountable (third-parties may not care). Especially because console titles tend to emphasize on-screen goodies over IQ or performance. Inferior framerates are already part of the equation due to the processing power disparity, I don't think they have that much flexibility in the first place. And what happens late-gen when everyone starts chopping away at the 1080p standard like the 720p standard this gen? It's not looking good. I think it's almost guaranteed this disparity is going to exist and possibly get worse for the entirety of this gen.
Yup, you're right. I didn't notice the absurd clock speed of the 360's RAM. Funny enough when looking it up I came across a blog posting my Major Nelson claiming real term bandwidth is everything [360 vs PS3].
The picture is a simplification, but it's right. Most people are just using it as a frame buffer atm (how it was mostly used in the 360. Eventually it'll be used better to store frequently requested data, but 32GB is slim pickings in a 1080P60 HD world with advanced shaders and terrible large assets.
Some smart people will do some amazing things for it, but outside of first party titles I actually expect the gulf to widen. 3rd party devs; ain't nobody got time for that s**t,
(unless they build something into their own engines and dev tools to leverage across multiple projects)
Unfortunate but hitting 60fps is important. Will hopefully get this on PC if the community is good.
It's a shooter and isn't like the other PvZ games at all...
It's a shooter and isn't like the other PvZ games at all...
What is this from? That looks like how the Flash got his powers.
Ah, Arrow gotcha. Thanks.
Dude, it has been 3 months since release.
That is The Flash. Shown on the TV show Arrow. CW is fast tracking Flash's own series.
Kojima is a superstar of video games, if any other developer would do that Microsoft would have their head on a plate.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Arrow season 2 episode 9, part of the two-parter that featured Barry Allen.
GoofsterStud
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It might be 900p but it still has a nice visual style.
Windom Earle
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Kojima still beats them in lazyness. 900p>720p amiriteguys.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It's a pretty game but a damn shame they can't get 1080p.
SwiftDeath
Member
And people still say the ESram isn't causing any difficulties. I would think the XB1's GPU would be capable of outputting this game at 1080p60fps personally although it's been a while since I've looked at equivalent PC cards performance
Muppet of a Man
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lol.
Dragonborn
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Windom Earle
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edit: 720p is still hd on paper.
jediyoshi
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Between the compression introduced by the video encoding or the compression introduced in the gif, I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.
Nope, not possible. If that were the case, they would need to cut down significantly on the effects, the texture resolution, the complexity of the geometry, etc... Its really not worth it.
From what I've read sticking a better GPU in it would do nothing, since it be bus starved and waiting around with nothing to do. ROPS matter, true, but they'd also need to increase the bus bandwidth, so you end up with a system that looks less like it does now, and much less cost effective.
If they went with a better GPU, then they have to used GDDR5. If they do that they can't budget for 8GB since it costs too much. If thats the case it might not be available and would throw a fork into their "living room/app/media vision" which was the overriding decision for the hardware choices in the first place.
This is PS3 vs PS4 and the PS3 version is going to be sub-HD.
Windom Earle
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True, sorry, I'll edit it out.
Actually a lot of Nintendo games on Wii U are 1080p/60fps
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