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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2014 (Feb 10 - Feb 16)

jeremy1456

Junior Member
When do people expect PS4 to outsell WiiU's LTD in Japan ?. It done it in 2 days in the UK, a few weeks in the EU and it will pass it in Feb's NPD for America.

With the release schedule looking so barren it's not even certain the PS4 will beat the Wii U's YTD this year in Japan.
 
The PS4 is at this stage, pretty much everywhere, selling on the promise of future support; I think the low tie ratio affirms that to an extent.

Although, the bundling of Knack and free software available probably doesn't help.

The problem with the Japanese market is that that promise (FFXV, Kingdom Hearts, Tales etc) is going to take a lot longer to be realised and I don't think the technological upgrade for cross-gen titles is as much of an adoption driver.
When do people expect PS4 to outsell WiiU's LTD in Japan ?. It done it in 2 days in the UK, a few weeks in the EU and it will pass it in Feb's NPD for America.
It already passed it in the US in January NPD.
With the release schedule looking so barren it's not even certain the PS4 will beat the Wii U's YTD this year in Japan.
What? The YTD is like 100K.
 

Jamix012

Member
Are you trying to say that the PS4 will be below Vita's YTD in Japan?

PSP was WELL WELL above PS3 so why not?
At this point...I wouldn't bet either way. The Vita has managed to make a niche for itself in Japan. PS4 could either lose to it marginally or beat it by a fair chunk. I think there are enough factors in the PS4's favour to put it ahead of the Wii U by early to mid 2015, but I don't think it'll be a raging success.

I have a seperate question to people in this thread, a bit OT but still, when do people think XB1 Worldwide LTD will catch Wii U's? I'm fairly pessimistic tbh, and don't think it'll happen this year.
 
Prediction League March 2014

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 24 to Mar 30):


[PS4] Hardware (35 days) -
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) -
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) -
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) -
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) -
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) -
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) -
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) -
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) -
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) -
[360] Titanfall (4 days) -


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Deadline: Feb 26 08:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)
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Attention:
  • PS4 HARDWARE DOESN'T INCLUDE THE LAUNCH "WEEK" (FIRST 2 DAYS)
  • Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
  • Multiplatform games are the combined available sales of each platform
Rules:
  • Do not edit your post after the deadline. If you do, you'll be disqualified.
  • The official monthly hardware sales will be the sum of weekly numbers for all versions of the system available from Famitsu.
  • The official monthly software sales will be the latest total or the sum of the weekly numbers if the title is release before the period available from the Famitsu Top 30.
  • The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
  • The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
  • Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.





Was totally forgetting this.
And I forgot to predict for the entire year. =
Gonna post anyway just to see how wrong I am.

[PS4] Hardare - 1111k
[3DS] Hardware - 3333k
[PSV] Hardware - 999k
[WIU] Hardware - 888k
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 G - 2222k
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. - 888k
[WIU] Super Smash Bros. - 888k
[WIU] Mario Kart 8 - 999k
I get surprised everytime i see people predicting PS4 selling more than the Vita for the whole year.
 

noobie

Banned
PS4 first day results.

http://azalyn.blog22.fc2.com/
- Hardware sold out
- Best selling: Yakuza, Killzone, Battlefield
- Software tie ratio was over 1
- Yakuza Ishin PS3:pS4 = 2.5:1

http://ameblo.jp/oosakaking/
- Hardware sold out
- Software tie ratio 0.7

http://blog.livedoor.jp/kisarazumax1250/archives/37254157.html
- Hardware sold out
- Best selling: Yakuza, Killzone
- Software tie ratio 0.46


These are all most likely "hardcore stores".
Yodobashi only has the version with camera sold-out in three stores: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/news/1000073465/index.html?kind=0002&store=0011
Amazon is apparently sold-out.

So how many stores they cover or they are saying sold out based on only 1 store data. :S
 
PSP was WELL WELL above PS3 so why not?
At this point...I wouldn't bet either way. The Vita has managed to make a niche for itself in Japan. PS4 could either lose to it marginally or beat it by a fair chunk. I think there are enough factors in the PS4's favour to put it ahead of the Wii U by early to mid 2015, but I don't think it'll be a raging success.

I have a seperate question to people in this thread, a bit OT but still, when do people think XB1 Worldwide LTD will catch Wii U's? I'm fairly pessimistic tbh, and don't think it'll happen this year.

ww it might make it in holidays this year but alot of things would have to go its way (the rumoured price drop). Its already ahead in uk and a couple of the released eu countries iirc, i think it will overtake in US in feb npd but theres a big chunk (over 30%) of the wiiu made up in japan which will never be touched by xb1.

WiiU is so dead in europe that even a distant second place xbox will still take chips out of those Japanese numbers but it will be whether momentum can be built in the US that will decide how long it takes to happen
 
I have a seperate question to people in this thread, a bit OT but still, when do people think XB1 Worldwide LTD will catch Wii U's? I'm fairly pessimistic tbh, and don't think it'll happen this year.
With the exception of the US, where it should happen by March, I think it has essentially outsold the Wii U in the Anglosphere. But those markets, while huge aren't really enough to get it to catch the Wii U as yet, given it seems to be selling about as poorly as the Wii U post-holiday in the non-English speaking launch countries.

It will be difficult, considering it will be irrelevant in Japan even when it launches.

I could still see it happening this year though in theory. I don't think the Wii U will ship a lot more in FYE3/15 than it did last FY, so it will be around 8.5M or thereabouts. It's quite plausible for the XB1 to ship another 4-5M units this year with launches etc and assuming demand in the US and UK doesn't completely crater. If a price drop occurs in the next holiday season, then I would say it's likely.
 
how's the Xbox One doing in France/Germany?
it'd be funny if it was so bad that the Wii U was outselling it and chipping away the UK advantage

france wiiu ltd ~ 300k (in Jan 2014)
xb1 ~ 126k (2013 only)
ps4 ~ 240k (2013 only)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=97921322&postcount=101


WiiU made 110k in its 2012 launch there with one week less than xb1 so the luanches were very similar. From nintendo financial graphs though this was easily the wiius best market in europe.

XB1 failed to break the Top 50 chart

You would need to compare last year wiiu to this year xb1
 
You would need to compare last year wiiu to this year xb1

too bad there's only a top 10 for Germany week 7 in 2013, obviously no Wii U titles there >_>

WiiU made 110k in its 2012 launch there with one week less than xb1 so the luanches were very similar. From nintendo financial graphs though this was easily the wiius best market in europe.

that's kind of the point, the 2nd and 3rd biggest markets in Europe are relatively favorable to Nintendo by comparison (far more noticeable with the 3DS though, because lolwiiu) :p
 

Yeshua

Member
[PS4] Hardware (35 days) - 200000
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) - 170000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) - 150000
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) - 250000
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) - 100000
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 100000
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 50000
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) - 250000
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) - 130000
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) - 230000
[360] Titanfall (4 days) - 25000
 
You would need to compare last year wiiu to this year xb1
From German charts, kinda OT.

W48>49>50 2012
09>22>31 - New Super Mario Bros. U
65>NA - ZombiU
70>NA - Assassin's Creed III
74>NA - Nintendo Land

W47>48>49 2013
05>39>38 - Forza
06>34>40 - Battlefield 4
08>44>46 - Ryse
09>50 - Call of Duty: Ghosts
12>49 - Assassin's Creed IV
22>82 - FIFA
35>NA - Need for Speed: Rivals
51>NA - NBA 2K14
NA>95 - Lego Marvel Super Heroes

Despite similar starts, price seems the major problem with the XB1 rather than the software line-up.
 

Ratrat

Member
I was in Shibuya and there are ps4 ads everywhere. Too bad theyre pretty awful. Aside from Isshin we have a bunch of obscure shit as far as games. Sony should use FFXIV and XV in their ads. And more Metal Gear.
 
Anyone thinking negatively about PS4 sales should read this.

http://www.vg247.com/2014/02/22/ps4-home-at-last-sonys-prodigal-son-finally-comes-to-japan/3/

Sounds like PS4 is going to do very well indeed. This article comes from someone who lives in Japan. Sounds like there was a massive shipment, one store alone got 300 systems and after reporting steady sales expected them to be gone by the weekend.

Hard to take this article seriously...there's no way it matches ps2s launch in Japan
 

Jamix012

Member
Anyone thinking negatively about PS4 sales should read this.

http://www.vg247.com/2014/02/22/ps4-home-at-last-sonys-prodigal-son-finally-comes-to-japan/3/

Sounds like PS4 is going to do very well indeed. This article comes from someone who lives in Japan. Sounds like there was a massive shipment, one store alone got 300 systems and after reporting steady sales expected them to be gone by the weekend.

:lol
No. It's hard to take it seriously since it claims to be the strongest launch ever? Nuts. Hard to believe anything else after reading that.
 

wotta

Member
I think it's best to wait and see. Everyone here is saying PS4 has flopped in Japan. I say wait and see, you may be surprised.
 
PS4 first day results.

http://azalyn.blog22.fc2.com/
- Hardware sold out
- Best selling: Yakuza, Killzone, Battlefield
- Software tie ratio was over 1
- Yakuza Ishin PS3:pS4 = 2.5:1

http://ameblo.jp/oosakaking/
- Hardware sold out
- Software tie ratio 0.7

http://blog.livedoor.jp/kisarazumax1250/archives/37254157.html
- Hardware sold out
- Best selling: Yakuza, Killzone
- Software tie ratio 0.46


These are all most likely "hardcore stores".
Yodobashi only has the version with camera sold-out in three stores: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/news/1000073465/index.html?kind=0002&store=0011
Amazon is apparently sold-out.

Expected the low tie ratio. PS2's ratio was 0.87. I'm guessing a 0.6-0.7 since there is Knack and PS+.

So is this suggesting PS4 as sold out?

I know FF XV is far off, but I can't even imagine KH III being out before 2017.

I see it as FFXV 2015 and KH3 2016. KH3 is closer than what many people think. We have seen gameplay videos for instance. As soon as FFXV is finished the Versus team will hop in and help the Osaka team.

I think it's best to wait and see. Everyone here is saying PS4 has flopped in Japan. I say wait and see, you may be surprised.

How can anyone say this? I wouldn't take them seriously if you see anyone say this or the inverse because we have very little evidence. They are probably just predictions.
 

RalchAC

Member
How can anyone say this? I wouldn't take them seriously if you see anyone say this or the inverse because we have very little evidence. They are probably just predictions.

Nope. People don't think the problem is at launch. People have been saying first year (outside launch) is gonna be brutal because there isn't a solid release schedule. There are Sony / Tech / Western games fans, that's sure, and those are gonna drive sales for the first weeks. The question is how well it will sell once that fanbase has bought the systems.

I think X1 January NPD results could be used as an example. Hardcore Xbox fans have bought the systems. Tech enthusiasts has bought the systems. Now early adopters have early adopted the system and January sales were low. (Sales will go up later, sure, but I wanted to use it as a comparision because it looks like a similar case)
 
Nope. People don't think the problem is at launch. People have been saying first year (outside launch) is gonna be brutal because there isn't a solid release schedule. There are Sony / Tech / Western games fans, that's sure, and those are gonna drive sales for the first weeks. The question is how well it will sell once that fanbase has bought the systems.

I think X1 January NPD results could be used as an example. Hardcore Xbox fans have bought the systems. Tech enthusiasts has bought the systems. Now early adopters have early adopted the system and January sales were low. (Sales will go up later, sure, but I wanted to use it as a comparision because it looks like a similar case)

I'm assuming he was talking about launch because he was using the past tense.
 

RalchAC

Member
I'm assuming he was talking about launch because he was using the past tense.

Yes yes. That was a summary of what most people have been saying about PS4 sales projection (if me reading comprehension works better than my sacarsm meter xD). It was an answer to the "How can anyone say this?"
 

Hexa

Member
600k prediction from me. LET's GO!!!

Not gonna happen lol, but I'm gonna go on hoping till the numbers role in.
 

Bruno MB

Member
My predictions:

PS4 - 296.000

1. Yakuza Ishin! - 97.000
2. Killzone: Shadow Fall - 31.000
3. Battlefield 4 - 28.000
4. Dynasty Warriors 8 with Xtreme Legends - 17.000
5. Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition - 13.000
 
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Deleted member 125677

Unconfirmed Member
I have a feeling we're looking at around 220k PS4 for the first two days.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
[PS4] Hardware (35 days) - 150000
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) - 200000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) - 210000
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) - 290000
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) - 200000
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 300000
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 80000
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) - 260000
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) - 240000
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) - 300000
[360] Titanfall (4 days) - 25000
 

Bruno MB

Member
PS3 Top 50 as of January 12, 2014.

Source: Famitsu

01. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 1.516.532 / 1.905.979
02. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} - 605.660 / 906.394
03. [PS3] Resident Evil 6 (Capcom) {2012.10.04} - 643.802 / 837.774
04. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.01} - 627.214 / 828.132
05. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Konami) {2008.06.12} - 476.334 / 706.461
06. [PS3] Tales of Xillia (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.09.08} - 512.544 / 670.182
07. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} - 304.752 / 635.514
08. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2010.11.25} - 410.486 / 600.860
09. [PS3] Yakuza 5 (Sega) {2012.12.06} - 363.717 / 583.487
10. [PS3] Yakuza 4 (Sega) {2010.03.18} - 395.123 / 557.771
11. [PS3] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage (Koei) {2010.03.25} - 385.551 / 553.229
12. [PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) {2009.03.05} - 321.670 / 520.564
13. [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme VS. (Bandai Namco Games) {201.12.01} - 345.053 / 514.723
14. [PS3] Yakuza 3 (Sega) {2009.02.26} - 356.867 / 509.306
15. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 (Konami) {2011.10.06} - 268.542 / 493.343
16. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7 (Koei Tecmo) {2011.03.10} - 259.787 / 476.018
17. [PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure All-Star Battle (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.29} - 391.583 / 473.186
18. [PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (Konami) {2013.02.21} - 335.791 / 471.925
19. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma (Capcom) {2012.05.24} - 302.590 / 470.141
20. [PS3] Tales of Xillia 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.01} - 331.533 / 451.066
21. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.10.28} - 229.076 / 450.983
22. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 (Konami) {2012.10.04} - 234.383 / 450.342
23. [PS3] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 HD Ver. (Capcom) {2011.08.25} - 282.960 / 441.375
24. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) {2009.11.05} - 234.508 / 438.552
25. [PS3] Yakuza: Of the End (Sega) {2011.06.09} - 307.592 / 417.504

26. [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2013.11.21} - 301.181 / 412.349
27. [PS3] Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2007.07.26} - 175.750 / 410.052
28. [PS3] Sengoku Basara: Samurai Heroes (Capcom) {2010.07.29} - 209.312 / 408.379
29. [PS3] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco Games) {2009.09.17} - 227.506 / 408.171
30. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} - 269.035 / 407.132
31. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) {2008.11.27} - 175.363 / 405.653
32. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 3 (Koei Tecmo) {2011.12.22} - 210.553 / 395.411
33. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2010.12.16} - 190.293 / 382.355
34. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 6 (Koei) {2007.11.11} - 176.180 / 371.443
35. [PS3] Dark Souls (From Software) {2011.09.22} - 228.872 / 368.457
36. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 (Koei Tecmo) {2013.02.28} - 213.338 / 356.617
37. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2008.12.25} - 203.033 / 339.690
38. [PS3] Tales of Graces F (Bandai Namco Games) {2010.12.02} - 219.921 / 338.628
39. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Subtitled (Square Enix) {2012.11.22} - 223.344 / 336.319
40. [PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (Capcom) {2012.04.26} - 245.639 / 336.183
41. [PS3] Samurai Warriors 3 Z (Koei Tecmo) {2011.02.10} - 224.012 / 328.716
42. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2008.12.18} - 161.623 / 328.167
43. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Gundam (Bandai Namco Games) {2007.03.01} - 171.032 / 317.580
44. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) {2007.11.22} - 144.839 / 316.533
45. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.12.05} - 187.640 / 310.332
46. [PS3] Devil May Cry 4 (Capcom) {2008.01.31} - 212.373 / 310.102
47. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2008.10.30} - 34.186 / 295.174
48. [PS3] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 (Koei Tecmo) {2012.12.20} - 116.513 / 292.174
49. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Subtitled (Square Enix) {2011.11.17} - 195.107 / 284.997
50. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts - Subtitled (Square Enix) {2013.11.14} - 217.645 / 281.974
 
Comgnet Pre Order

Harvest Moon New Beginning 3DS - 62pt (final) [79,809 FW / 232,912 LTD]
Harvest Moon New World 3DS - 73pt (increasing, to be released on Feb 27)
 

yon61

Member
er...what

Errr, a console's success is not determined just by the amount of good first-party titles. It is determined by how consistent and good that support is. The PS4 will have a release schedule that is infinitely more consistent than the Wii U's.

But where will the support come without the strong first party? Isn't that why the Vita's in limbo right now? We saw what Nintendo's first party titles did for the 3DS. Granted that major support was always planned for the 3DS by third parties, but they were banking on Nintendo's own support to prop up the system's userbase initially.
 
I was in Shibuya and there are ps4 ads everywhere. Too bad theyre pretty awful. Aside from Isshin we have a bunch of obscure shit as far as games. Sony should use FFXIV and XV in their ads. And more Metal Gear.

I saw a trailer of FFXV yesterday at Sofmap Ikebukuro
 

Steroyd

Member
But where will the support come without the strong first party? Isn't that why the Vita's in limbo right now? We saw what Nintendo's first party titles did for the 3DS. Granted that major support was always planned for the 3DS by third parties, but they were banking on Nintendo's own support to prop up the system's userbase initially.

This is why, as long as the hardware itself sells alot or enough to satisfy 3rd party devs will follow through their pledge to release software for it, whether or not Nintendo or Sony will release their own content for it, we saw devs bail spectacularly on the Wii U when sales come out, we saw devs clamouring to make shovelware when the Wii came and caused global saturation.
 

bakman21

Neo Member
Prediction League March 2014

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 24 to Mar 30):


[PS4] Hardware (35 days) - 225.000
[3DS] Harvest Moon Tsunagaru Shintenchi (32 days) - 155.000
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice Delta (25 days) - 150.000
[PS3+360] Dark Souls II (18 days) - 305.000
[PS3+PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (12 days) - 130.000
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 210.000
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (11 days) - 78.000
[PS3+PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 (11 days) - 285.000
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (11 days) - 336.000
[PS3+PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd (4 days) - 260.000
[360] Titanfall (4 days) - 22.000
 

hiska-kun

Member
I saw the first sold out today in Yamada Denki in Shinjuku.
play4soldout_zps2ce9af1c.png


But Bic Camera was full of stock. The same in Ikebukuro's shops.
 

L~A

Member
Comgnet Pre Order

Harvest Moon New Beginning 3DS - 62pt (final) [79,809 FW / 232,912 LTD]
Harvest Moon New World 3DS - 73pt (increasing, to be released on Feb 27)

If only that could mean it'll have 100k opening week.... but it's probably never gonna happen. My guess, CNW will do slightly better than NB, but not by much (about 85k, I'd say).
 
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