its a total mess...
how can devs go on market with things like this!??!
there must be something behind im not drinking the "bad port" or something...is too evident and too big..the problem here
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Digital Foundry: Thief for Xbox One edges out the PS4 version
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its a total mess...
how can devs go on market with things like this!??!
there must be something behind im not drinking the "bad port" or something...is too evident and too big..the problem here
HORRORSHØW
Member
This doesn't make sense, this seems a bit extreme...
It almost looks like one is using beta textures.
Asset streaming issue, not texture issue. Why they use a still image for that is beyond me.
dead monkey uk
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This looks terrible on PS4, surely this is something that can be patched? But sub 30fps on both consoles is a poor show.
TUROK
Member
So... Do people actually bother to read the articles? They never said the One version was better, they said it looks slightly better in the visuals department.
Pankratous
Member
Still sounds like the PS4 one is better to me..
The screens in the PC screenshots thread are pretty good. It shows that it's a cross gen game though.
OminoMichelin
Member
Wait do the textures get better after a couple of seconds? There is no way they would stay like that the whole time.
Dictator93
Member
By far the most versatile machine. It even chooses when and when not to stream properly.
Macready1306
Banned
I believe if you actually watch the video you'll see the steadier (and consistently) higher frame rate is on the Xbox One version. Eurogamer may have mistyped that in the article. Where the Xbox One is hitting 28 fps, the PS4 is dropping to 21 FPS!!! Watch the video and see!
GoofsterStud
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RedAssedApe
Banned
I forgot this is a UE3 game. Not surprised about texture streaming issues 
They are analyzing (well, except for the POM) the different version and are coming to a conclusion.
One could argue how much of an impact the Unreal-style texture loading has on the actual real world playability of the title compared to the resolution and the better ability to hold 30 FPS during higher intensity moments.
The one second it takes two stream in the high quality textures is definitely very distracting in cutscenes that are introducing new areas, while entering new areas in gameplay is probably not so much of an issue.
And then different authors place different values on these things and therefor come to the conclusion they do.
It's only throwing a bone or disingenuous if the author in one previous face-off decided the opposite way in a similar scenario.
All in all I think this conclusion is good, so people stop wanking over resolution and consider other factors.
Yeah PC looks good. I was talking about the console versions, which seem to have received exactly one shaft each.
Nevermind that the actual gameplay looks like ass.
Impeccable
Member
Seems like a streaming problem. Interesting they missed the cobblestones etc.
Also, welcome back Kayle, lol
Also, welcome back Kayle, lol
Sorc3r3r
Member
you will feel better soon...dont worry
Diprosalic
Banned
900p and drops to 20 fps
:lol
:lol
the_batman
Banned
lazy devs using lazy tools. i mean, unreal engine 3? really?
But what about this
Both are having the earing problem?
I didn't say the textures were good, why do people think a correction is a defence?
If PC is an option for you, then it renders every DF comparison pointless really.
There is a comment on the Eurogamer article claiming that his texture filtering looks the same after he enables POM on PC.
I don't have the PC version so I can't confirm this.
... like framerate eg.
GoofsterStud
Member
I am just trying to understand. I am just baffled.
I've been playing Thief all night on my PS4 and just opened this thread and I am terribly confused. I have not seen any mess of blurry textures what so ever and I'm playing on a 60" Plasma and only 8 feet from it, so I would definitely notice.
If it's an asset streaming issue that's causing it, would it be related to the HDD speed? I'm not using stock - I have a 1TB HGST Travelstar 7K1000 in it.
Seriously, I have not had that issue at all and I've been playing for about 7 hours straight. No texture pop-in problems, nothing.
If it's an asset streaming issue that's causing it, would it be related to the HDD speed? I'm not using stock - I have a 1TB HGST Travelstar 7K1000 in it.
Seriously, I have not had that issue at all and I've been playing for about 7 hours straight. No texture pop-in problems, nothing.
dat PS4
jokes aside
Hopefully we will see this trend continue, XB1 ports have been pretty shoddy in comparison to the PS4 so far.
Yeah, the shit house texture filtering makes no sense, neither does using still images to show asset streaming issues.
Well nothing wrong with criticism. They have been favouring the green camp and really grasping for straws when the blue camp had an edge last gen.
But even worse, when they try to minimise the difference to PC releases. If you can't just say that the PC version smokes everything else(usually true most of the time) and try to downplay the differences there as well you have problems.
On topic. POM? No mention of that?
GoofsterStud
Member
LOL Can't get more transparent then this.
It must be the cinematic 24 fps and cine like gamma of 1.8! Just feels more dark you know...
I see the texture filtering is lacking on the PS4 and I can't understand how this can happen. In modern GPU 16x AF is a basically zero performance loss feature.
But looking at the framerate video there is a scene at 3:45 I would call the XOne nearly unplayable because you're complety in the dark. No chance of beeing spottet by the player at all
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But what about this
Both are having the earing problem?
Says slower normal map streaming compared to PC. They both pop in properly.
Meanwhile the asset streaming is more apparent on PS4 on occasion, which is what the other picture that keeps being quoted is.
RedAssedApe
Banned
the article claims that both console versions use POM though
This would actually explain a lot. Basically Eidos, or whoever developed this game, built a house made of matchsticks and I'm not surprised judging how badly the cut-scenes run for everyone.
No its a fine conclusion. The frame rate is garbage on both consoles so that's basically a wash. High 20 FPS vs low 20 FPS is barely anything but the image quality on the PS4 is actually worse.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Why would you hope for this trend to continue? I don't want no lazy ports on PS4.
But yeah, I know what you mean. I cant wait for an all next-gen timeframe.
That is just sad really.
The filtering on PS4 is crap and I see no reason for it,but its still sharper in the overall image because of 1080p.
OminoMichelin
Member
That's probably it tbh. This game should really not need to stream textures on the go in front of the player, in my opinion. There's no way they's run out of RAM so quickly.
It's Unreal Engine, so it's bound to have some noticeable texture streaming. In the Thief Quick Look on Giant Bomb they enter a new area and it takes two-three seconds to fully load in after a 32 seconds loading screen. (The QL was done on the Xbox One.)
Oh wow, they do. Well that certainly isn't right stated like that.
AF and parallax don't play nice together?