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Watch_Dogs downgradeaton confirmed
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gamerforever
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Kind of find it embarrassing that the PS4 can't handle something shown in 2012 - have we been duped?
1.84Tflops PS4 vs. 3-6Tflops PCs.
Maninthemirror
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Or its ubisoft devs being ubisoft. Hasn't it been confirmed that 2012 one was a tech demo and 2013 was actual gameplay ?
What if a pc version can't match the 2012 level, will you then blame the pc or the developers
On a technical level the graphics of the latest videos of wd is slightly above gta v on a las gen hardware so i am more inclined to believe the developers shortcomings
That what was shown in 2012 was running on two brand new GTX 680.
PS4 has weaker GPU than one of those chips [with ligter drivers&API] PS4 can reach [or slightly surpass] one of those Nvidia cards.
Maninthemirror
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I would argue tho that due to being a dedicated hardware and api across the system. In a couple of years the ps4 and maybe xbox one can reach parity with a windows system running the tech demo on a dual gtx 680 machine
It's a matter of when really. As for how much performance who knows.
So he's saying the PC version will look like the E3 2012 demo?
Maninthemirror
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If so and it is anything less, the backlash from pc community will be bigger and worse
And the fucks they'll give will be minimal if this blows up to AC levels of success.
Because it hasn't been talked about much, I want to throw in Digital Foundrys analysis of the E3 2013 footage again.
It's a great, thorough analysis if someone's interested: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-watch-dogs-on-ps4-tech-analysis
It's a great, thorough analysis if someone's interested: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-watch-dogs-on-ps4-tech-analysis
Go check out infamous, order, killzone, ect.
Check yourself. I have a feeling PC crowd is also going to be pretty disappointed sans mods. Luckily for them they have options to bring out what Ubi might not be able to.
Caayn
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Don't blame Ubisoft, blame Sony and MS for their hardware decisions.
gamerforever
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Well, it seems that both are pretty underwhelming.
Infamous SS does come close to that 2012 video though, so perhaps it's Ubisoft's fault.
lucebuce12
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butman
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There's a strong proof for sue Ubisoft if PC version look worse than E3 2012
Cave Johnson
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That is exactly what was said:
PS4 will look like E3 2013
PC will look better than E3 2012
All those developer-sympathizers have no excuse to use the "bu bu bu da changiz can't meet the target renderz please understand" right now as this guy is [bull****ing] straight from the horse's mouth.
plumpblumpkin
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I just can't fathom what's going through this man's head to lie like this..IT CLEARLY SHOWS THAT IT IS NO WHERE NEAR 2012 BUILD.
I truly hope I am wrong and they release a nice 60fps PC trailer with all the effects of the 2012 build..
Betta Lines
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Unless you've seen the PC version recently I'm not sure how you can call it BS.
Caayn
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Infamous looks amazing. But to be fair to Ubi: exclusive vs (6x)multiplatform. Ubi has a lot more work than Sucker Punch has.
Changed that for you.
gamerforever
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Yep, that is also true.
Really wish that the cross platform games stopped now - I swear this didn't happen last generation!
This is my greatest hope for The Division. PS4/One/PC-only.
Cave Johnson
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I haven't. It is a sensorized suggestion that will may or may not prove its validity upon release.
Trickster
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Isn't that confirmed as a next gen only game ?
Caayn
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I assume you mean cross-gen
If so I agree with you, cross-gen needs to stop right now.Betta Lines
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Regarding the PC version
It at least seems to be pretty demanding:
Confirmed minimum specs
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/6/5474064/watch-dogs-pc-ps3-ps4-xbox-360-xbox-one-release-date
It at least seems to be pretty demanding:
Confirmed minimum specs
- Processor: IntelCore 2 Quad Q8400 2.66Ghz or AMDPhenom II X4 940 3.0Ghz
- Memory: 6GB RAM
- Video card: 1024 VRAM DirectX 11 Shader 5.0
- Sound Card: DirectX9
- Hard drive: 25 GB
mercenar1e
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I might be wrong but Ubisoft never said the console versions would look exactly the same to that of the PC reveal in 2012. I thought the outrage was about the game being downgraded from the 2013 console reveal.
SneakyStephan
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hahaha, no it can't
mercenar1e
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Storm Chamber
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That is exactly what was said:
PS4 will look like E3 2013
PC will look better than E3 2012
Oh this is gonna be good
gamerforever
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I assume you mean cross-gen
Yep cross gen! IT seems like both new consoles haven't been released at the right time which has caused this issue and many development studios decided that rather than build a new game it would be more cost effective to just port it over.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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The reality is, both consoles are underpowered compared to how far tech has come in 8+ years. It's just that the ps4 isn't as underpowered as the xb1.
gamerforever
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Never been into the PC gaming scene myself, as I just see it as unnecessary hassle and consoles tend to have a lot more exclusives too, but I may change on that front in the coming years.
It feels like PS4 simply upgrades textures a little and improves the resolution and framerate, but doesn't really bring much that is truly a generational leap.
It's a fair assumption PS4 games will look noticeably better than the Watch Dogs E3 2012 demo over time, just through optimization of one fixed hardware platform.
PS3 games went from
to
Darryl M R
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I know this isn't a PC thread but I want to ask this question here since the current discussion is going on. How much of a handicap would someone be at if they played online PC multiplayer games with a controller? Mouse and keyboard just does not work for my lifestyle.
Poetic.Injustice
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NemesisPrime
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Not really. The PS3 and 360 had quite some "hidden" tricks because of the unknown architectures. The PS4 and XBox are basically mid range PCs, so the amount of "tricks" that devs can use is much more limited since the architecture is already so well known. It is a bit of a missed opportunity IMHO that we didn't get true next gen consoles... but I understand the price fear this time.
Betta Lines
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Compared to... PS3? We've barely begun to see what this generation is capable of, Xbox One and PC included. Your comment about texture, resolution and framerate more appropriately describes what PC gaming has been like over the past few years - it has been held back by last-gen console games. Once this generation starts hitting its stride, you will see significant improvements beyond resolution and framerate. If anything, it's those two elements that will most likely to stay the same or suffer, as studios push the boxes further to achieve more advanced effects. I expect to see plenty of 30fps, 720p PS4/Xbox One games in five years' time that look absolutely incredible.
E3 2012.
Nah. While it's true they're based on the x86(-64) architecture, they're still fundamentally different to the PC you can throw together yourself. A 8 GB shared memory pool being the most obvious example, while an 8-core CPU is still very rare in most PCs, too.
gamerforever
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Yep, I guess we are early on in this generation. Just disappointing when we see videos from third parties and get something else.
I would expect this generation to last around 4-5 years.
It's the opposite going by numbers, but they're different types of games. Strategy games, Western/European RPGs and various simulators (Racing, Combat, Space) genres that are much more vibrant on the PC these days. Star Citizen is probably the main thing you'd want, since it's setting itself up to be the Crysis of this generation.
Depends which game. You wouldn't last a second in Counter Strike, but you'll do well in Titanfall.
That is exactly what was said:
PS4 will look like E3 2013
PC will look better than E3 2012
This will be interesting. Let's see.
gundamkyoukai
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SP is also only 90 plus people last time i check and i sure Ubi had hundreds of people working on this game.
Also SP had to start work on infamous SS mid or late 2011 while Ubi said they started in 2009 ( don't have a specific date ) on Watch Dogs.
Watch Dogs is Ubi doing what they normally do and i don't think the PC version going to change that ( FC3 is a eg of that ).
JonathanPower
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So are you suggesting the PC version will not look downgraded compared to the 2012 reveal? Because the same happened with Far Cry 3, and the PC version didn't look as good as the tech demo.
Ubisoft suggested that, at least according to the Twitter post. Their damage control at work.
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