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Digital Foundry vs Mario Kart 8
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DemurOnion
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Games with no AA scare me today. That being said this game does look like a lot of fun. N needs to release a console that people want.
I mean it's crazy how great some games without AA on consoles like Castlevania LoS look on PC with SGSSAA. Even Mario games would look absolutely lovely at native 1080p with tons of AA. Pixarish. It is a shame we have yet another gen of low quality IQ from N. Oh well I guess. They should come back stronger.
I mean it's crazy how great some games without AA on consoles like Castlevania LoS look on PC with SGSSAA. Even Mario games would look absolutely lovely at native 1080p with tons of AA. Pixarish. It is a shame we have yet another gen of low quality IQ from N. Oh well I guess. They should come back stronger.
Was going to post this. Thank you.
HighJumpBoots
Banned
59 FPS!?!?? THATS A FUCKING SLIDESHOW.
Who cares tho
The irony in you contributing to this thread then.
HighJumpBoots
Banned
It's one frame difference. I was interested in the split screen analysis, got what I came for and left a little humour.
Anyone who doesn't buy this after this report is crazy, still.
MemoryHumanity
Member
Pre-order cancelled.
Sorry I meant quality texture filtering, I'll fix my post.
DragonKnight
Member
This is the kinda shit that makes video games less fun.
HiredN00bs
Member
Hopefully they can patch this. Does this problem manifest when playing on the Gamepad?
Good lord at the people in full defensive mode over this. From what i've seen nobody is taking shots at the U this time or calling it unplayable. It's a clear step away from the perfection it was taken to be though and pretty damn unfortunate to me. I really hope they can patch it.
It's not about that one frame difference, but it's cyclical nature that causes a very consistent micro stutter every 64 frames. The annoying part is that when a pattern like that emerges, your eyes are trained to spot it.
That's very distracting.
English isn't your primary language.
They detailed what is causing the dropped frame.
Somehow there is an error in the game causing it to reproduce a previous frame at the 64th interval instead of the intended frame at that time.
Without reverse engineering their software which would put them under the threat of law suits they've explained as much as they could.
That's not how it works. Your screen will refresh 60 times per seconds, no matter what. If the console can only feed it 59 frames, it will stutter.
HiredN00bs
Member
Dude, what are you doing? No one can respond to this in a reasonable way, and you have absolutely no evidence to back up such a claim. Go do your own study if you think you're so clever, otherwise, get this shit outta here.
HighJumpBoots
Banned
We'll see about that. I don't think it'll be that bad.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Agreed, but now thats its pointed out..good luck
Nicktendo86
Member
Good job df. This is minor, most people probably won't notice, it won't affect my enjoyment of the game, but it should be pointed out. Sounds like a bug and hopefully Nintendo patch it, possible rushing out the door to help sales?
Jimmyfenix
Member
Thank you stuburns.
We do not get enough wii u technical analysis reports so this is interesting.
That Dark10x is such a fanboy
TheMagician
Member
Agreed. No XB1 or PS4 game has had such a nitpick.
Jimmyfenix
Member
But they hold high standards for Nintendo games though that is the comparison here.
People claiming this is jarring, you are simply full of hot steaming shit, because no other single person up to this point picked up on it...so no it's not noticeable unless you are specifically trying to look for it...
Anyone that is honestly not getting this game or even offhandedly joking about it due to a frame, just quit gaming right now.
This would be the same reply no matter what game they are talking about, so don't pull some N fanboy card....DF is terrible, period.
Anyone that is honestly not getting this game or even offhandedly joking about it due to a frame, just quit gaming right now.
This would be the same reply no matter what game they are talking about, so don't pull some N fanboy card....DF is terrible, period.
DragonKnight
Member
And why should this be pointed out, again?
To use another poster's analogy it is like dating a very attractive woman and nitpicking her.
What service is this doing for anybody?
HiredN00bs
Member
QA for Nintendo, apparently.
If you're running a site about detailing the aesthetics of a woman in great detail, the people who go there are expecting that. If you don't want it, don't got there.
You are so incredibly worked up. It's amazing.
Its a technical analysis.....thats what its there for.
If these issues arent that noticeable, then they dont get mentioned in the review. The idea behind the TA is go purposefully go completely in depth.
dark_prinny
Banned
Interesting.
But they are explicitly stating that Nintendo set up that standard with games like SM3DW. People are getting so bitchy with DF articles when they provide interesting facts about the technical side of games, it's tiring sometimes.
Because it's a bug?
Interesting.
I haven't followed the impressions closely enough, did anyone anywhere mention this before the DF article? I have the feeling if we didn't have this article it would be a non-issue. Still hope Nintendo might be able to patch this, so I'm not holding my breath on this one.
I haven't followed the impressions closely enough, did anyone anywhere mention this before the DF article? I have the feeling if we didn't have this article it would be a non-issue. Still hope Nintendo might be able to patch this, so I'm not holding my breath on this one.
It's great that you love, or want to love this game, because it's Nintendo and Mario and they're meant to be perfect, etc.
But don't come in a Digital Foundry analysis thread and complain when they find some technical hitch just because it didn't fit your narrative of Nintendo/Mario perfection.
I'm sure Nintendo will patch it regardless.
But don't come in a Digital Foundry analysis thread and complain when they find some technical hitch just because it didn't fit your narrative of Nintendo/Mario perfection.
I'm sure Nintendo will patch it regardless.
Petalpusher
Banned
Should be patchable, unless it's some funky rendering trick. Could be as well, since it's fixed cycle.
The 720p no AA was expected from the framebuffer grabs (i had some debate around here..)
The 720p no AA was expected from the framebuffer grabs (i had some debate around here..)
If the miniature drop is notable yet consistent I imagine I'll probably go from slightly perturbed to eventually getting used to it. Unfortunate that it doesn't go the extra frame in CPU games but hopefully it can get an update. In the meantime I'll still be looking forward to the game, it looks amazing.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Yup totally agree.
Popup
Member
Because the article only provides 30fps captures, the effect, although noticeable, cannot be properly demonstrated. I see Blim Blim has some 60fps footage on Gamersyde..
It seems that it may well be fixable and I am still going to get the game upon release. The game looks great.
Anyone can notice these kind of effects if it is either pointed out or exaggerated in the first place. At that point, they either curse themselves for not being able to un-see it or proclaim 'is that it'? It's funny how some people consider themselves cursed, more sensitive to seeing these differences. It simply comes down to how much it annoys you, that's all. A form of OCD?
It seems that it may well be fixable and I am still going to get the game upon release. The game looks great.
Anyone can notice these kind of effects if it is either pointed out or exaggerated in the first place. At that point, they either curse themselves for not being able to un-see it or proclaim 'is that it'? It's funny how some people consider themselves cursed, more sensitive to seeing these differences. It simply comes down to how much it annoys you, that's all. A form of OCD?
I haven't seen anyone here mention anything about it and quite a few have played it.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Interesting write up. Some seem overly....sensitive about the article. It's a technical analysis, report what is seen.
The amusing part is everyone ragging on DF in the abstract when fellow gaffer dark10x did the analysis and is in this very thread explaining it. Haha
The amusing part is everyone ragging on DF in the abstract when fellow gaffer dark10x did the analysis and is in this very thread explaining it. Haha
mangochutney
Member
Every DF analysis lists the frame rate of a game. Just because it doesn't meet 60 by one frame doesn't mean it doesn't need mentioning.
Nothing nit picky here, and nothing to cry over either.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
Yup. The jaggies were pretty bad during the GameStop event last weekend, but their display is awful and not calibrated. That said, I noticed zero hitches/stutters/etc. during my play through. I'm not saying the stutter's not there, but it's not noticeable during game play. People just want a reason to bitch.