Thanks to dualinsders looks like they are doing a bit of both?
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/careers/lighting_artist1/
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Uncharted 4 Trailer runs in-engine, in-game, in realtime on a single PS4 at 1080p60
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Thanks to dualinsders looks like they are doing a bit of both?
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/careers/lighting_artist1/
Good stuff.
I like that idea that a game's tech can produce visuals on whatever continuum we choose to put The Order and UnCharted 4. From 1080/30 to 1080/60, I expect first party games to be ridiculous this generation. RAD is a newcomer to games on this level, and they've done an outstanding job. ND are veterans of the game. I look forward to seeing where other studios fit in the spectrum (Guerrilla, Bend, QD, SSM). Simply amazing.
nelsonroyale
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The lighting in the trailer looks amazing to me.
BruiserBear
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higher than the rent?
grimlock442
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Huge leap. The 1080P 60fps puts a stamp on it. Ps4 is a beast.
The Order is also beautiful, and when it launches, will be the best looking game available. The Order is coming out much sooner.
I also applaud the wide screen style black bars approach for The Order. Will offer a fresh, wide perspective on the game.
I mean, if you're going to complain about black bars you might as well complain about the frame of your tv, the walls of your room behind your tv, and the gym socks on the floor.
Because, clearly the bars aren't indicative of a lack of horsepower
Uncharted 4 shows us this.
Wishmaster92
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These screencaps are a little higher quality from the french gamersyde trailer.
Jigolo
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lol this is so true
nelsonroyale
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If somebody told me the last shot was from a movie, I wouldn't have been surprised.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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reminds me of killzone2 and people zooming in on walls, ground etcc lol
And god have mercy on ND soul if one wrinkle on Drakes face is not there .
Lol that is true. Though I also wonder how close the final IQ will be to this teaser trailer.
Dictator93
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Has anyone made mention how there is apprently 0% aliasing in the released teaser?
Even The Order, which is a forward rendered game with 4XMSAA and some sort of PPAA ontrop of a temporal solution, has visible aliasing...
That sends alarm bells in my head. While I will not doubt the quality of the model presented, I do question the image quality in terms of aliasing. Especially at 60fps.
Even The Order, which is a forward rendered game with 4XMSAA and some sort of PPAA ontrop of a temporal solution, has visible aliasing...
That sends alarm bells in my head. While I will not doubt the quality of the model presented, I do question the image quality in terms of aliasing. Especially at 60fps.
Whatever ND says, ReadyAtDawn has actually shown a real game with real-time cut-scenes and smooth transitions between them and gameplay. Let's wait on the comparisons until such a thing happens for UC4. In The Order gameplay and cut-scenes are almost one, in the style of David Cage's games. That's a diametrical difference to the Naughty Dog mentality of doing things.
I don't know if you have noticed but in all of ND's games, their real-time facial animation is always comparatively crap next to their pre-rendered cut-scenes. I know there are rumblings that their cut-scenes will be real-time this time, but I'm just putting it out there.
I've mentioned it before. Everybody is blind to the obvious.
There is some aliasing though rare and hard to notice.
That's my final lingering question, what the hell type of AA are they using? My best guess is that the used the DoF blur to hide any aliasing in the background and pumped Nate up with heaps of AA for the trailer purposes. We at least have confirmation that it's not super sampled.
Lord Error
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It's really suspect, but the footage is not supersampled. You can see shader aliasing, so it must be using some kind of edge detecting/supersampling AA.
Freeman
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We are at insane territory here. If this is real and its running on a single PS4 at 60fps its an unprecedented technical and artistic achievement, above any sane person expectation as to what PS4 would be capable let alone only 2 years after launch. Given that they have no reason to lie to our faces and set us up for complete disappointment (specially not by being so specific about it mentioning resolution, frame rate,stating its real time), I'm inclined to believe them.
It's just too clean looking for the IQ to be believable.
While it looks amazing, I'll hold my drool until I see actual gameplay (when Drake is being controlled) and how the environments/enemies look. If it's all at the level of that small sample (AA included), then I'll dehydrate fast.
BruceLeeRoy
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Did you watch the video?
He says you can pick out the shadow aliasing on Drake in several instances but most of the clean image is because pretty much everything but Drake is DOF'ed like crazy.
I agree the IQ is just ridiculous though. I know ND have a insane track record but it doesn't seem possible.
I'm not buying into it 100% until I see this Drake's model in-game taking and shooting shit.
Naughty Dog are capable of great things, but this a pretty familiar situation, and people were using the shit out of this game as reference in that diminishing returns thread as if they played the game themselves.
The above is The Last of Us reveal at the VGAs, the bottom is Uncharted 4's reveal.
NEVER FORGET.
The IQ is crazy for me to believe too since that was one of ND's weak areas this past gen. I want it to be real though.
Yea they lied before with TLOU's teaser, why people think they wont do it again?
People really should adjust their expectations on this one.
nelsonroyale
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The original teaser wasn't in the game, was it? I can't remember. It may have been rendered in real time for the reveal.
Somewhat good analysis, but many of the comments such as what he said about the ring finger certainly made me laugh.
He used the clipping as justification that it's not pre-rendered, but that really doesn't prove anything at all.
Having said that I fully believe it is real time and that the game will look like that.
It's also worth noting that Drake will not be at that level during gameplay unless the camera gets up close, but even then chances are it won't be at that level.
C'mon guys don't be naive, unless you wanna tell me the Clickers in the game looked like this:
instead of this:
If it looks the same to you (and the in game picture is a promotional one so it's probably looks better in terms of AA and maybe other minor tweaks than actual gameplay) than kudos to you.
It's obvious that the TLOU teaser have better lighting, AA, and models, it was probably rendered on 8 PS3s, that's why it proves ND lied, and they can do it again, don't buy the hype until you see gameplay, be skeptic and you can only be surprised positively.
IAmRandom31
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Why do people who make these types of comparisons ALWAYS choose 2 completely different pics?
How about finding a pic with a closer face shot of joel at that angle?
Shouldn't be that hard.
Well it's kinda difficult to do that. Most of the cut scenes in TLOU were prerendered so its hard to get a good comparison. Plus the cut scene in the VGA reveal was never used in the actual game itself.
The comparison is still valid in the sense that the ingame model of Joel looks better then the VGA model of joel.
Can you explain me what's the difference?
nelsonroyale
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You can capture pre-rendered cutscenes directly from PS3 as well. He is asking where they said it was ingame or real time. They seem to have gone further with their current claims. If it isnt real time, they have certainly gone pretty far to mislead people tha it is...
Uncle Rupee
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Having recently completed the Uncharted trilogy I have faith they can come close to that on PS4. Some of the in-engine cutscenes in 2 and 3 were just insanely good. Haven't played TLOU yet, probably will wait until I get a PS4 and play the remastered version.
Well and you don't find this VERY misleading? like almost on a LIE level misleading, and they are doing it again with the U4's teaser, exactly the same message, and now we are suppose to believe them this is real time and actually running on a single PS4 unlike the TLOU's teaser when they said the same and fooled us all? Why should we buy their shit?
I love ND's games and TLOU was my GOTG while U2 was one of my favorites, and still they are far from being honest.
nelsonroyale
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Provide proof where they stated that was real time...
TrAcEr_x90
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Jesus, best graphics on earth.....but they cant center or align text at all.
i have a feeling it will be like watch dogs where after the reveal they have to tone back. i know its not the same as they did it for 'parity' but with everything happening on screen i kind of doubt they will be able to keep the fidelity like that. More than likely this trailer is like forza 5 photo mode where it looks way better than when you actually have gameplay. I hope I'm wrong as it would be awesome but i have a feeling that will be the case.
They claimed it was captured directly from a PS3, are you joking?
You are telling me they meant that the PS3 played it as a video file? and than you ask me to find where they claimed it was real time?
Some of you are unreal and are going too far in order to protect your precious company, they were dishonest at the least, stop this.
Prove they're not being honest or shut up.
i did a quick search for giggles and found this
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...from-a-ps3/&client=safari&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1
lensoftruth wouldn't load so i used a google text cache
Already did, if you cant understand that than you should shut up.
Thank you.
No, you proved they lied, not that they're lying.
Jimmyfenix
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Provide proof.
It's going to look better than gameplay because gameplay doesn't have perfect camera angles nor will it be zoomed into Drake's face all the time. This is going to be a case where folks are calling out downgrades that aren't present and I'm already rolling my eyes at the future comparison posts.
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