GalacticaN7
Banned
Now we wait for MS to buy them and make unprecedented Kinect games.
Well, the feeling they gave me is it's not exactly a minority sentiment within, but for semantics sake I'll edit it to reflect more accurately.OK, so instead of saying something like "a lot of the feeling internally is that the Yerli brothers are quite the incompetent leaders," try "two Crytek employees tell me the feeling internally is that the Yerli brothers are quite the incompetent leaders." It might seem like an insignificant difference to you, but it's the difference between potential defamation and reporting what you've heard.
But if you're not being paid, how does that impact things?Ah, I see. Thanks.
So it's presumably generally the same as the "consultancy period" I see when UK firms go bankrupt.
Hmm, two people =/= "a lot". It's two people, at best it's some people, but it definitely isn't a lot.Two people, yes. Bish can talk to me if he'd like, I'm all open for it.
My point is that if you're going to spread information like this -- information that can affect real peoples' lives in significant ways -- you really should say where it's coming from instead of stating it as fact.Well, the feeling they gave me is it's not exactly a minority sentiment within, but for semantics sake I'll edit it to reflect more accurately.
My point is that if you're going to spread information like this -- information that can affect real peoples' lives in significant ways -- you really should say where it's coming from instead of stating it as fact.
is there some reason you feel the need to moderate the thread?
OK, so instead of saying something like "a lot of the feeling internally is that the Yerli brothers are quite the incompetent leaders," try "two Crytek employees tell me the feeling internally is that the Yerli brothers are quite the incompetent leaders." It might seem like an insignificant difference to you, but it's the difference between potential defamation and reporting what you've heard.
Well, there was a different GAF insider that got hammered down - hard - for spreading misinformation a while back. The incident culminated with the rumour in question being quashed by the industry figure himself appearing in the thread and responding to accusations against him. The gist of it was something like, "GAF insider says director of [game] was fired for bad work, when the truth of the matter was that the director of [game] stepped down for personal reasons."
(I don't remember the specifics, but there's probably someone that can link the thread.)
jschreier's probably just trying to give good criticism, I think.
Edited to reflect exactly what was meant, but really I was assuming anyone reading "the feeling internally" already implied that the sentiment is from actual employees, not meaning that I work there or something, but I understand that needs to be made very clearly from now on.My point is that if you're going to spread information like this -- information that can affect real peoples' lives in significant ways -- you really should say where it's coming from instead of stating it as fact.
Well, there was a different GAF insider that got hammered down - hard - for spreading misinformation a while back. The incident culminated with the rumour in question being quashed by the industry figure himself appearing in the thread and responding to accusations against him. The gist of it was something like, "GAF insider says director of [game] was fired for bad work, when the truth of the matter was that the director of [game] stepped down for personal reasons."
(I don't remember the specifics, but there's probably someone that can link the thread.)
jschreier's probably just trying to give good criticism, I think.
You will be able to leave based on the breach of contract, but if you're just not paid once or twice you may struggle to win as there are probably a lot of avenues for your employer to take as a defence.Totally unenforceable since the company already breached employment terms by not paying in full. Trouble is it's an employers market which puts pressure on people to put up with this kind of abuse.
So is Crytek going to be the first victim of the new generation, then?
Calling the insider out on his extrapolation from 'two employees' to 'a lot of the feeling internally' of the entire studio absolutely is necessary. That's the same kind of utterly careless abuse of trust and integrity that's been marring gaf insiders more than once lately. If the source was just two dudes then that should be mentioned.is there some reason you feel the need to moderate the thread?
So is Crytek going to be the first victim of the new generation, then?
I don't understand how employees can stay with a business that refuses to pay them, but I guess they don't have much of a choice right now. Crytek has put their employees in a real bad situation.
I also had no idea Crytek was so huge, I feel like they only ever made a few games.
If it's in a signed contract I believe it's kosher (up to 12 weeks IIRC) if the position is deemed a vital one. Which from the sound of things they've engineered them as?
No one will buy them. Pubs at this point are waiting for them to die THQ style so they can get the IPs for dirt cheap.
When you say THQ, I remembered Crytek bought Vigil Games.They really have bad luck.
And if there's no money?
It's not just that. There's a big difference between hearing something from one person, hearing something from a dozen people, and all of the options in between. Responsible reporters -- or even GAF insiders! -- need to be as clear as possible when relaying information from their sources, especially when the consequences could really hurt people. I don't believe in any hard and fast rules for the number of sources one needs in order to report something, but specifying that you heard something from two different Crytek employees certainly makes the information more credible than it might be if you only heard it from one, or if you heard it from two people who talked to Crytek employees.Edited to reflect exactly what was meant, but really I was assuming anyone reading "the feeling internally" already implied that the sentiment is from actual employees, not meaning that I work there or something, but I understand that needs to be made very clearly from now on.
What's sadder and more annoying is reading that the Yerli's still drive to work in theri Ferraris and whatnot. Seriously, sell your shit and pay your staff.
Not surprised with this news, to be honest. I mean, Crysis 3 flopped hard and the company was always touting games that went nowhere, even Cry Engine 3 hasn't made them money, right? I always wondered where they even got funding.
Forgive my ignorance but what is this "notice" BS? I'm from Canada and here it's considered polite to give a minimum of 2 weeks notice when leaving a job on good terms but nothing is required. "Hey I won't be coming to work anymore, *middle finger*, what're gonna do about it?"
A notice period is there to help employees out with the dramatic effect of losing a job, or if the employee is the one serving notice it will help the employer out with the loss of an employee.Forgive my ignorance but what is this "notice" BS? I'm from Canada and here it's considered polite to give a minimum of 2 weeks notice when leaving a job on good terms but nothing is required. "Hey I won't be coming to work anymore, *middle finger*, what're gonna do about it?"
If Crytek goes belly up, what will happen to projects that licensed their engine? Would the assets be split up and sold to bidders?
4. Subscription Period, Auto-Renewal
4.3. Crytek shall be entitled to discontinue the CryEngine as a Service program after due notice at any time. You shall not be entitled to any claims for damages for such discontinuation.
Sorry
The financial results of Crytek GmbH* over the past few years (everything in million EUR):
Code:Revenue Net income/loss 2012 48,938 -9,424 2011 34,464 -8,215 2010 21,554 -21,015 2009 19,954 -2,933 [B]2008 14,732 -3,810[/B] 2007 18,010 2,052 2006 10,373 0,417 2005 6,341 0,200 2004 3,264 0,245 2003 3,143 -0,371
*Crytek GmbH has quite a lot of subsidiaries: one company for every studio except Frankfurt, RealTime Immersive Inc. (their serious games and simulation studio in Orlando), Crytek Lizenzverwaltung GmbH and Crytek Gface GmbH.
The numbers of 2003-07 are from 2007
- Staff promoted to Senior roles without equivalent pay rise. Senior roles are required to hand in a three months notice if they chose to resign so this is believed to be a tactic to get staff to stay. i.e. scumbag move.
Come on, does Free Radical really need this? After being fucked over by publishers for their whole development life?
My point is that if you're going to spread information like this -- information that can affect real peoples' lives in significant ways -- you really should say where it's coming from instead of stating it as fact.
It is time for MS/Sony to buyout Crytek, isn't it?
Crytek Death Watch 2014?
And nothing of value was lost.
Why?
Their games are bad, and no one uses their tech.
Wait for bankruptcy so you can get easy bids for individual stuff.
I dunno it seems like they have a lot of promise for the future I hope - nextgen and improving rigs so more people can appreciate their games. Put some decent stuff/licenses up for bidding...
Crytek should sell it to Sony.