AgentOtaku
Member
EA has to be shitting their pants with the little attention BFH is receiving.
It's like nobody gives a fuck about it.
Poor Visceral
indeed
Super sad as I've wanted another damn Cops Vs Robbers game since SWAT4
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Visceral goes over feedback received from Battlefield: Hardline beta
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indeed
Super sad as I've wanted another damn Cops Vs Robbers game since SWAT4
Have you played the single player to say that?
Die Squirrel Die
Member
I wonder if it would even be a possibility that EA delay this game. Battlefield isn't annualised they say so they wouldn't need to worry about stepping on the toes of next year's game.
Because at the moment it looks like if they go ahead with an autumn release they are going to get crushed between Destiny and CoD (and I'm sure Activision are salivating at that thought), maybe a little Far Cry 4 as well. Evolve is also flying under the radar a bit at the moment, but it seems to have the backing of the E3 critics to start pushing for more attention, whereas the consensus around Hardline is more quesitoning why it exists as a full product.
Because at the moment it looks like if they go ahead with an autumn release they are going to get crushed between Destiny and CoD (and I'm sure Activision are salivating at that thought), maybe a little Far Cry 4 as well. Evolve is also flying under the radar a bit at the moment, but it seems to have the backing of the E3 critics to start pushing for more attention, whereas the consensus around Hardline is more quesitoning why it exists as a full product.
Really cool that they're working on taking feedback like this. I know they said up until launch, but ideally this is something you want to continue after launch as well. I'm looking at games like CSGO as a prime example of a game that thrives off of having community feedback implemented every patch, in addition to planned bug fixing and such.
I wish the team at Visceral luck with this. I didn't enjoy the beta, but I'm fatigued on BF on the whole. Maybe if the tweaks keep coming I'll give it a second look after release.
I wish the team at Visceral luck with this. I didn't enjoy the beta, but I'm fatigued on BF on the whole. Maybe if the tweaks keep coming I'll give it a second look after release.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Battlefront is releasing next year, and if it was'nt Battlefield 5 would be.
VisceralBowl
Member
No, Titanfall 2 would be. EA has 3 IPs to rotate starting next year.
Battlefield makes them a lot of money. It's not baffling at all, really.
Nobody buys a "Battlefield" game for the campaign. At least, not people who will shell out the $50 for Premium.
The real question is whether or not this will outsell that god fucking awful Medal of Honor game.
I feel sorry for everyone at Visceral except those in the company who made the decision to tie their wagon to EA. This game is gonna be $30 by Black Friday.
So this guy isn't going to buy the game, right?
Lord of Castamere
Member
No it wouldn't have, unless it started production last year...
Also EA doesn't own Titanfall or Respawn, games developed by EA owned studios are always going to take prescience.
mullet2000
Member
I think Hardline is a "rip-off" in many ways, but holy cow this video is embarrassing.
I really feel like the SP is what they should be showing, even if more people want to see the MP. The SP part of the game is honestly what has me the most excited, especially since I really liked DS1/DS2 (haven't played DS3) -- Visceral has a solid SP pedigree, in my opinion. The MP aspect doesn't really excite me, especially after playing the beta.
Eyemus Lutt
Member
I played the beta but got bored and went back to the Destiny alpha. It seems it's stuck between being a poor battlefield and a poor payday clone so doesn't end up looking good.
However I don't agree with the claims of it being a mod because all of these shooter games have become skin swaps over the past few years.
However I don't agree with the claims of it being a mod because all of these shooter games have become skin swaps over the past few years.
It's not.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Either Battlefront is releasing next Fall or Battlefield does. DICE has had a consistent 2 year dev time on their FPS's for years now, and contrary to the reactions here the lack of polish hasn't done anything to decrease their selling power.
EA has annualized their FpS's, in an alternating fashion similar to COD but without the overarching brand name, for years now. DICE LA was made to help that by taking over DLC and patches so DICE Main can work on the games. The DLC for BF4 will conveniently conclude right before Hardline. Like it or not everything points to another EA FPS next Fall, and with the first Star Wars movie releasing next Winter EA would have to be the thickest company in existence not to coincide that with Battlefront.
I don't get this line of reasoning at all? Hardline is more different from BF4 than BF4 was from BF3. All new maps, all new vehicles, all new single player campaign, a completely different upgrade system, new game modes based around heists, a much more refined UI, and an entirely different theme to the whole thing. How in the hell is this a mod to BF4? It runs on the same engine...okay, so is every game that runs on Frostbite now just a mod of BF4? You can argue the quality of the game that we have played so far, as something definitely felt a little off in the Beta, but to call it no more than a mod is just absurd. I have to imagine that this is more about people's hatred of BF4 than it is about the quality of Hardline.
Battlefield 5 will assuredly come out in Fall 2015 as it's a key part of EA's business plan.
I'm guessing Battlefront will release in March or May 2016.
EA noted that they feel all three can fit in the same fiscal year on either the last or second to last fiscal call.
It's a vocalized, long-form NeoGAF post.
spacemonkeynation
Member
Look at a video or screenshot (or play it). Even the UI is ripped from Battlefield. The player movement, the physics, the destruction-it's all identical. This is a mod. I've seen total conversion mods that change more than this.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
I don't remember world at war getting this much shit back in the day. Then again, it didn't come hot off the heels of one of the most broken launch games ever.
Still can't finish the campaign for bf4 since there's a save bug that never got fixed.
Still can't finish the campaign for bf4 since there's a save bug that never got fixed.
Messofanego
Banned
Is there any chance that they spend time turning this into a payday clone?
There's potential to flesh this out with police stations that function as hideouts. Does this game come with a story mode? I want a damage meter that attaches a numerical value to damage done by cops and thieves.
There's potential to flesh this out with police stations that function as hideouts. Does this game come with a story mode? I want a damage meter that attaches a numerical value to damage done by cops and thieves.
Messofanego
Banned
indeed
Super sad as I've wanted another damn Cops Vs Robbers game since SWAT4
Rainbow Six Siege
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nhlducks35
Member
Nope, I'm a big fan of BF4 and even I think that Hardline feels too much like an expansion. Hell, look at Bad Company 2 Vietnam. That was a great expansion and felt a lot different than BC2.
VisceralBowl
Member
That would be an interesting year.
SniperHunter
Banned
the beta sucked. It just feels like BF3 and BF4..will not be wasting my money on this.
BC2 - I spent about 400 hours on it and loved it
BF3 - 200 Hours and got bored of it
BF4 - 140 hours got bored
BFHardline - played 4 matches and got bored.
BC2 was a magical game, wish the team had stuck around.
BC2 - I spent about 400 hours on it and loved it
BF3 - 200 Hours and got bored of it
BF4 - 140 hours got bored
BFHardline - played 4 matches and got bored.
BC2 was a magical game, wish the team had stuck around.
Neuromancer
Member
I do too. That's the only reason I still plan on trying it at some point.
Rising_Hei
Member
Making Visceral do games like this one... no wonder EA has been considered the worst company, it reminds me of what Microsoft does with Rare.
SP doesn't make any sense to me either, it looks like it will suffer from the same problems as MP in that it is just too unrealistic for its purpose. Sure its a video game, but SWAT teams having minigun turrets on choppers and robbers running around with rocket launchers and grenade launchers blowing buildings up just doesn't help suspend disbelief. It is too unrealistic but at the same trying to be realistic with real world styling, just...ugh.
So they can create all new assets with a completely different theme, completely change the upgrade system, add all new game modes, and create an entirely different single player campaign that is a complete departure from the series, but if the engine hasn't been upgraded then it is a mod? Gotcha.
Even if you are someone who thinks this game feels like an expansion or mod, with the amount of new content there does it even matter as long as the game turns out good?
Ascenion
Member
I mean this guy was off with prices, it's actually $320 counting Hardline, still having played 3 and 4 on PS3 first it basically is EA trying to charge $110 for the same game for the past 3½ years. I made the distinction of platform because some people feel BF4 on 'next gen' was different even though it really wasn't. Language aside the guy was spot on.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I'm done with battlefield if it continues like this. BF bad company 2 and Vietnam were so much better than 3 and 4 and this is just horrible. I really want to get excited for battlefront but I can't trust EA dice right now. Titanfall 2 and maybe battlefront for me. Battlefield is dead to me.
Uhm, didn't people complain? Granted, it was the fact the game was a fucking broken, awful mess for months, but I do recall people did complain about Battlefield 4.
The way they're presenting it seems like a TV show or film, similar to contemporary police pulp like the recent remake of Miami Vice. It's not supposed to be super realistic, but it's not supposed to by CSI either. It's going to be "action packed," but I'm OK with that. If I want more realistic sim style SWAT stuff, I'll play Rainbow Six stuff like I normally do. This will be a nice change of pace, in my opinion, even if it's pure popcorn action. At least it's a different setting in which to do Left Trigger + Right Trigger gameplay.
Im wondering why they don't have realistic things that would work in the setting like spike strips or tear gas. It's like they didn't go far enough away from normal BF or they didn't do enough research on their end.
How much of that attributes to the destiny alpha dropping like 2 days after this 'beta' started.EA has to be shitting their pants with the little attention BFH is receiving.
It's like nobody gives a fuck about it.
Poor Visceral
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
PS4 console warriors are so damned cute nowadays.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Got beta for this and destiny at E3. Never booted this up and played destiny non stop. I wanted an actual cops and robber game, not urban warfare
I'm surprised it took EA so long to run Battlefield into the ground. Soon to join Medal of Honor if there not careful. Might be inevitable with DICE being busy with Battlefront and Battlefield getting passed around other studios. Hardline bombs, then BF3 : Pirates bombs next, it's over until the hyped return of BF5 that fails to match a new king, could be time for another dev to hit a high note. Like MOH, BF will have lost it.