Psycho_Mantis
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Have you heard what mistwalker is doing:
Terra Battle currently for mobile and possible ports to consoles
Incorrect.
Capcom:
I hope Itsuno is working on a sequel most likely PS4 and XB1.
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Rumor: 3 more Wii U exclusives hinted by the one who hinted at Devil's Third
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Have you heard what mistwalker is doing:
Terra Battle currently for mobile and possible ports to consoles
Incorrect.
Capcom:
I hope Itsuno is working on a sequel most likely PS4 and XB1.
Have you heard what mistwalker is doing:
Terra Battle currently for mobile and possible ports to consoles
Incorrect.
Capcom:
I hope Itsuno is working on a sequel most likely PS4 and XB1.
Ehh? I thought Itsuno wanted the game to sales for 10 mil if I am not wrong?
Edit: yup
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/new...t-can-Sell-10-Million-Copies-of-Dragons-Dogma
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-can-sell-10-million-worldwide-reckons-capcom
Earthpainting
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Oh great. It's one of those threads that tease all sorts of games I want, but where the only chance of them manifesting is on mobiles.
Either way, if this rumour has any truth to it, I'm kind of fascinated by what drove them to these deals. Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third felt like they funnelled money into dead projects, The fact that they were canned usually had a good reason behind it. I don't see either of those titles selling a ton, pretty much turning them into publisher poison. They would probably do worse on WiiU than they would have on other systems, but at least this allows Nintendo to pad their release schedule and earn some good-will of niche game fans.
I can't really think of many other titles that fit that bill though. Cry On and Ni-oh make sense, but too much time has probably passed for those.
Either way, if this rumour has any truth to it, I'm kind of fascinated by what drove them to these deals. Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third felt like they funnelled money into dead projects, The fact that they were canned usually had a good reason behind it. I don't see either of those titles selling a ton, pretty much turning them into publisher poison. They would probably do worse on WiiU than they would have on other systems, but at least this allows Nintendo to pad their release schedule and earn some good-will of niche game fans.
I can't really think of many other titles that fit that bill though. Cry On and Ni-oh make sense, but too much time has probably passed for those.
Nope. Capcom's expectations from their financial reports were for 1.5M for Dragon's Dogma. It only sold 1.3M, so it definitely fell short of their financial expectations. That doesn't mean the game was a failure, and it may have even turned a profit - but it fell a bit short of what they were expecting.
Why would a first party studio making a game, be touted as "exclusive"? By that logic, the next three announced games by Nintendo would do.
efyu_lemonardo
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I'd be really surprised if we don't see Rodea in some form this gen, either just on 3DS or also on Wii U.
1.5M forecast for FY doesn't mean this was the original target when they started the project. Capcom had very high expectations for this game and they set a more realistic target when they had to face the hard reality of possible sales.
DaSorcerer7
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Outsourced to Platinum Games. Gaf would implode.
Chris is it the 10 million sales I posted up there?
Glass Rebel
Member
I can't really think of many games that are in a similar situation as Devil's Third. Both Cry-On and Ni-Oh seem like they've never really been in development or have been put on ice for far too long to be resurrected again.
Cavia was working on an FPS for Square-Enix titled Catacombs. It looked weird enough that it might catch Nintendo's attention and from what I know, some people who left Cavia are at Access Games now.
If this rumour is true and there are 3 exclusive games coming, we probably don't know about all of them. That said, I'd love for someone to revive Coded Arms Assault.
Cavia was working on an FPS for Square-Enix titled Catacombs. It looked weird enough that it might catch Nintendo's attention and from what I know, some people who left Cavia are at Access Games now.
If this rumour is true and there are 3 exclusive games coming, we probably don't know about all of them. That said, I'd love for someone to revive Coded Arms Assault.
Have you heard what mistwalker is doing:
Terra Battle currently for mobile and possible ports to consoles
Incorrect.
Capcom:
I hope Itsuno is working on a sequel most likely PS4 and XB1.
Why a PC version of Dragon's Dogma doesn't exist is beyond me but i sure as hell hope that a sequel comes to PC as well at least if it doesn't come to the WiiU which unfortunately seems likely.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Lol thats the game director. He said he wanted it to sell that much. What actually matters is if it meets Capcom's expectations.
1.3 million as of September last year. Besides they clearly said it exceeded expectations even though said expectations were higher than the sell through. Maybe they expected it to bomb but didn't want to tell anyone else about it lol
With DA, they actually included microtransactions and along with the DLC stuff I think it must of been successful. Those rift crystals aren't easy to get and are kind of cheap in Olra's shop.
I think the biggest reason for a sequel though is its success in JP. DD + DD DA on PS3 has sold 890k. That is pretty insane for a new IP in JP. Its already up there with Resident Evil PS3 in Japan. The biggest reason it may not get a sequel is how expensive next gen RPG's are to make.
They did say it exceeded expectations in Japan but it didn't worldwide. The 1.5m projection was FY as well, not lifetime.
Dragon's Dogma was a huge project that took a significant amount of internal resources. Capcom did always try to put a positive spin on it in their IR reports but it really did underperform in the west. Plus the opportunity cost was massive, DD was basically why we didn't get DMC5.
Yeah, absolutely. I was just trying to keep things simplified with numbers that were officially released just to show that the game did indeed fall short.
No, it's at 1.3M as of Mar 31/14. And the 1.5M expectation was only for the FY the game released, like back in 2012. The 1.5M expectation was only through Mar 31 of that FY, not for the LTD of the game. And that 1.5M expectation was for full-priced sales, not for the reduced value price-protection sales that ended up making up some of that 1.3M LTD for the game.
bequietdrive
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If Nintendo were smart they'd announce one of these with a Fatal Frame localisation in the next couple of months, to keep the console's momentum going.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
From what I understand, the Skies team became the Sakura Wars team which then became the Valkyria Chronicles team.
In JP, Skies never sold well so I think that series is done for. Aika, Vyse and Fina all appear in VC PS3 though
Tbh I rather have a VC4 on PS4 (not a portable one pls) than SoA. VC's srpg gameplay was revolutionary.
sörine;122121922 said:
Oh yeah DD did flop in the West. Capcom hardly marketed it though presumably because the project was already taking up so may resources.
If I had to choose between an Itsuno DMC or DD2 I would choose DD2 any day. Its like the first open world game I've played thats had fantastic combat. There are notable improvements to be made but its a great start if the series was to continue.
Sort of. They were originally the Sakura Taisen team before Skies. They were also involved with stuff like Clockwork Knight, Shinobi and Rayearth.
Hardly marketed? DD had heavy rotation television ads in America and they even promoted the 360 RE6 demo on them. The game had a bigger push than any other new IP from Capcom this gen.
It was an extended version of the Sakura Taisen battle system, but yeah since we only got the fifth episode years after VC I think from our point of view it could be called revolutionnary.
I don't like talking about dead series that I like, it's too sad ;_;
Davey Cakes
Member
I'm really getting tired of this "hoping for localization" thing.
The Wii U is doing best and has the most momentum in the US. Localize EVERYTHING. Give the player base things to play, constantly. Japan barely gives a shit about consoles anymore anyway.
I'm prety sure there was a statement for 1 million sales in Japan before the game was released.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
sörine;122124202 said:
Wow, it actually had ads? Thats news to me. I live in the UK though. Was there a marketing campaign in EU as well?
Are you talking about this,
Itsuno:
VC can't be dead ;_____;
can you upload your review of Devil's Third? I'd be curious to see it for obvious reasons.
I'd settle for DOA5: Zero Suit Samus Edition. It's weird Wii U never got DOA5U when it got NG3RE and now Team Ninja's involved with Hyrule Warriors and Fatal Frame V. Even Vita got a version of DOA5.
TitusGroan
Banned
Help me out here, what score would you give Devil's Third out of ten? I'm having trouble finding the Metacritic page for the game...
IronicSonic
Member
Including Twin Snakes and then revealing Snake in Smash. Make sense
The Abominable Snowman
Member
The original rumor came off as a guy who guessed right in the first place. People were guessing all sorts of pubs when the game was disowned and a lot of people guessed Nintendo as well. Technically Devils Third wasn't even at E3.
DaSorcerer7
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prag16
Banned
This to the max. Same feeling I have every time that Mass Effect hopes and dreams of next gen thread gets bumped after having been idle for a while.
The_Intruder
Member
sörine;122128963 said:
-New pokemon on 3ds 2 weeks before the official announce if I remember correctly.
-Amiibo(wihout the real name) in smash bros one month before e3.
pinkurocket
Member
I thought Baten Kaitos was mostly by tri-Crescendo or something, I really don't know. I was just thinking wishfully.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Vanquish 2 and Vanquish 2 and Vanquish 2
Do not crush my dreams....
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Ah, I didn't think the Treehouse was a part of the show floor.
Father_Brain
Banned
Those are shipped numbers, not actual sell-through, no? I'd think actual sales were quite a bit worse if the NPD numbers we got were any indication.
ElDuderino
Member
The Internet would explode with death threats on Square and Nintendo. It would dwarf the bayonetta 2 rage.
Nintendo buys Capcom and Resident Evil 7, Devil May Cry 5 and Street Fighter 5 are going to be Wii U exclusive.
On a serious note: imagine if Nintendo really did buy Capcom after that whole thing happened with them being able to be bought. Would be nuts.
Trevelyan9999
Banned
They should do it, just for the one magic phrase: I.P.
bequietdrive
Member
Amen. Although the Wii U has been better than the Wii for this so far, localisation of Nintendo games is still a massively patchy and unknown quantity.
I think we'll see a localization announced at the next Direct. Hopefully Iwata is feeling well enough to do one for August/early Sept.
Gotdatmoney
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Despite feeling like this whole thing is just a ploy for clicks . . . Zack and Wiki 2, hype hype hype!!!!
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