Psycho_Mantis
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oh wow
Though that does make me question why Sony denied EA. I mean the service works in conjunction with PS+ so its not competing with it, in fact it needs it.
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Sony's response to EA Access Subscription plan
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oh wow
Though that does make me question why Sony denied EA. I mean the service works in conjunction with PS+ so its not competing with it, in fact it needs it.
This^
Birgitte2004
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I ask again, as the service is outlined EA will make very little $ off of it, and might even come out negative if the only users are their biggest supporters.
Why would EA do this? What's their incentive?
No, Sony is not the "good guy" saving you, but EA certainly isn't the "good guy" giving unprecedented value away with no end-game either.
So what is EA's angle? Until we know that, the rest is just speculation.
Officerrob
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Holy fuck...
Castef
Banned
This is for gamers. Not THAT!
Seems like Sony wants to keep the subscription party all to themselves.
I'm not sure where people are getting all these theories that they'll lock online content to this stuff. I doubt Sony or Microsoft would accept that. EA has been pretty good with their content with Origin. I'm really not concerned.
I'm not sure where people are getting all these theories that they'll lock online content to this stuff. I doubt Sony or Microsoft would accept that. EA has been pretty good with their content with Origin. I'm really not concerned.
Good thing they aren't charging $60
Read it again, they were given the option and turned it down.
CecilRousso
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When they lock the games behind their service even when sold on other platforms, there's really no point of the games being on Steam, since it will more or less just be a link to the EA platforms where the game is actually hold.
Chobel
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And you lose access once you stop paying like Netflix. The download is to streamline the process of playing. We can split hairs about this all day but it's essentially different forms of software rental where you're paying for content licenses and authorizations rather than the software itself, if that makes sense.
Baleoce
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Actually you do make a good point. It would require PS+ because most if not all of EAs game offerings now have online.
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What is the shit you're referring too? All I've seen EA do last gen is pre-order/early adopter DLC and season passes for their games. Selling extra content to people who want it is nothing out of the ordinary by industry standards now. How does this equate to EA selling gimped versions at retail and requiring a subscription to access the full game?
Can I ask how mass effect 3, dragon age 2 are scummy business decisions ?
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Right, but it's not something EA couldn't have approached Sony for, for a cut.
At the end of the day, Early Access was a deal that EA and Microsoft made to together and I think more or less, that was something that they didn't like. It's not like EA is endorsing it themselves.
Lol what?? It sounds like a great value for how cheap it is.
ShadowkillXNA
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Its not mandatory in any way, shape or form. PS4s all over the world work perfectly fine without ps+.
I swore off EA games so this doesn't affect me one way or another, but I understand why Sony wouldn't want a to support a service that could compete with PSN+ and PS Now. A possible upside is that Sony will make PSN+ and PS Now more attractive (more games on +, lower cost for Now).
Opus Angelorum
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I've seen a few people state this. Personally I always buy the previous game in a sports series because I can pick it up for less than half the price. I don't care for the latest rosters.
And I'm laughing at the 'lets all hate EA again now' routine.
Daaaaaamn, son!
Sony put on it's big boy britches this generation, huh?
I don't think it's really that big of a slam, but it is a really good response to what EA is doing. I'm sure that we could draw a comparison to Origin and what Valve thinks of EA's encroachment on their terrain. Not a damn thing!
EA was once a great company, but they seem to be circling a drain and their management has no one at the helm who knows how to plug the drain and stem the flow.
Sony put on it's big boy britches this generation, huh?
I don't think it's really that big of a slam, but it is a really good response to what EA is doing. I'm sure that we could draw a comparison to Origin and what Valve thinks of EA's encroachment on their terrain. Not a damn thing!
EA was once a great company, but they seem to be circling a drain and their management has no one at the helm who knows how to plug the drain and stem the flow.
woops. for $30 i might jump on board.
CecilRousso
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If Sony's own program is already succesful, what would they have gained from doing that? If they allow one publisher to step in and demand a share of it, what's stopping 5 other publishers from doing the same thing?
Would Ps NOW be the better option? Because the pricing on that is awful
Handy Fake
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For those saying they'd rather have had the choice, one would assume that those EA games will be available on the PS service at the same rate as other PS services anyway, and that if they had employed the EA Sub service it would essentially be putting those games already available behind an extra subscription paywall.
BeforeU
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Its $30. And Battlefield, Peggle 2 are listed as one of the two vault games beside sports games. And more to come. There are many other non sports EA tiles.
Thank you. This is what's bothering me. Why does EA need to have their "OWN" service instead of just working with Sony and MS to provide "Awesome Value." i.e. people with PS+ and Live Gold will have the early access and duscount whilst they take a share from Sony and MS. Why not put their games on Steam for that awesome value as well? There is a catch to this Vault their pushing and I want to k ow what it is.
Psycho_Mantis
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Yeah I don't see why people are saying Sony is doing this so PS+ has less competition when EA Access requires PS+ to play online and a lot of EA games are popular online.
There has to be another motive.
There has to be another motive.
MaulerX
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AyaisMUsikWhore
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HHowever most sports fan update all the time. I know your talking from your experience but tbh, this is just an easy way for them to do that.
Opus Angelorum
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That's a very big assumption, especially now.
what are you guys even talking about?
facts:
I have bought from ea in this new gen
battlefield 4 (+some dlc) , nfs rivals, peggle 2 (+2$ dlc), titanfall, tf season pass, garden warfare, fifa.
thats easily more than 250euros. and all but rivals where release day purchases.
just a 10% on that, practically pays the year itself.
I mean, its not like they're going to be pumping out less games now, is it?
then you got the vault, and you got the preview thing, and the dlc price cuts....
how does anybody try to see this wrong? I mean, see it wrong in the case he does play them games.... not see it wrong like...academically
Some people don't like subscriptions, some people don't like digital games, some people don't like year old sports games, some people don't like EA...
boneso
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Wasn't that Microsofts Xbox One launch campaign?
"do you want to come to the future with me Joe?"
I thought PS now prices are in beta and Sony said they will change?
Impeccable
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Three strikes, YOU'RE OUT!
AyaisMUsikWhore
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God forbid people just agree with their statement. Got to be a fanboy for that right. Ugh..
CecilRousso
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I'm defending them (as in understanding why they did this), and I'm not a PS4 owner (95% of my gaming is done on PC). But yeah, why not go down the easy route with the fanboy argument. That's always much easier then actually reading and trying to understand different arguments
Doctoglethorpe
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I agree with them. EA's sub costs almost as much as PS+ but it doesn't have even remotely the same value.
I can't imagine they're going to change significantly as Sony actually needs to make a profit on the huge investment they've made in game streaming.
yea, i said i might jump on board at $30 couple posts above. I own Peggle 2, BF4+DLC, TF+DLC so this might actually be worth it.
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LookAtMeGo
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Eh. I see legitimate concerns for the future and an overpopulated market of subscrption services. I see more hate for EA than love for Sony in this thread IMO.
Baleoce
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Having thought about it a little more, I think it's the precedent that Sony may be trying to prevent.
PS+ and EA Access aren't competing, necessarily. They need each other. EAs games are mostly online, right? So it would infact require Sony's service anyway. It makes the inclusion of EA games on the monthly PS+ service cycle much less likely. The only one in recent memory I can recall is Dead Space 3. If someone was able to make a list of games that EA have contributed to PS+ that would be interesting to look at.
But that isn't the main issue, the main issue is the publisher precedent. Because there *are* certain big publishers that do contribute a fair amount to PS+ and its perceived quality could change if more and more publishers start offering their own separate service, because suddenly Sony would have fewer partners to look to to make each months PS+ proposition tempting to new and existing subscribers.
PS+ and EA Access aren't competing, necessarily. They need each other. EAs games are mostly online, right? So it would infact require Sony's service anyway. It makes the inclusion of EA games on the monthly PS+ service cycle much less likely. The only one in recent memory I can recall is Dead Space 3. If someone was able to make a list of games that EA have contributed to PS+ that would be interesting to look at.
But that isn't the main issue, the main issue is the publisher precedent. Because there *are* certain big publishers that do contribute a fair amount to PS+ and its perceived quality could change if more and more publishers start offering their own separate service, because suddenly Sony would have fewer partners to look to to make each months PS+ proposition tempting to new and existing subscribers.
Handy Fake
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... And yes, I can totally see EA going in a huff and taking their ball home. *snort*
At the same time, have you ever known EA pass up an opportunity where money is involved?
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