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Ghibli production department facing shutdown, will take a break and consider future

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so1337

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This is devastating news but maybe now the world can start paying attention to some of the other suberb work coming out of the Japanese animation industry.
 
A shame, especially since Marnie mostly got positive reviews. But Ghibli didn't manage to draw any attention on their movies which weren't directed by Miyazaki or Suzuki. Who knows the directors behind any Pixar movies? Hardly anyone as Pixar managed to direct the attention on the movies. I wish Ghibli would have managed to do the same.
 
I doubt the main problem behind the closing is financial.

it is. the model doesnt work unless they can produce big hit movies in japan every year.

they have a large staff that is employed on a full time basis, which costs them 50 Million Dollars or something per year. Thats in labour costs alone. They need a 100 Million Dollar Movie every year or they cant sustain themselves. In japan only about 10 or so japanese produced movies have actually crossed that mark of which 50% or more are from ghibli.
 

GCX

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While I've always been a huge Ghibli fan, to me this news is far less shocking than Miyazaki's retirement news last year.

That was the end of Ghibli for me. Even if the studio continued to operate for decades to come, it wouldn't be the same without Miyazaki and Takahata.
 
So we are stuck with Disney's sterile, milquetoast, one note, princess crazy, diluted, safe, politically correct, merchandise friendly nonsense with the occasional flash of brilliance from Pixar or Dreamworks? Fuck!

Maybe I'm being unfair
 

Mlatador

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I'm not sad. Eventually everything has to come to an end. Hayao Miyasaki is already pretty old and has reached a legendary status. If he leaves or just doesn't feel like making movies anymore, than that's that for the studio. You just can't continue without him. However, since there is still probably a lot of talent left, they are better off opening up a new Studio if they feel like continuing making Ghibli-esque movies.
The "Studio Ghibli", however, has done it's fair share in the world of japanese animation and has earned itself its well deserved spot in the history books, and that's nothing to be sad about. I'm very happy for their amazing, almost unmatched, decades long run!
 

RPGamer92

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At least they decided to end with a good legacy and reputation rather than waiting it out to the end with a potential bad legacy.
 
While I've always been a huge Ghibli fan, to me this news is far less shocking than Miyazaki's retirement news last year.

That was the end of Ghibli for me. Even if the studio continued to operate for decades to come, it wouldn't be the same without Miyazaki and Takahata.

Hiromasa Yonebayashi is a splendid young director. i would have loved a ghibli with him as the head figure and Miyazaki Goro as the second line.

Well probably ghibli will continue to make movies but will now use the Ronya model (outsourcing the work)
 

GCX

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Hiromasa Yonebayashi is a splendid young director. i would have loved a ghibli with him as the head figure and Miyazaki Goro as the second line.

Well probably ghibli will continue to make movies but will now use the Ronya model (outsourcing the work)
I'm not saying the post-Miyazaki/Takahata Ghibli couldn't be great, it would just be totally different from the studio we know as Ghibli today.

Miyazaki and Takahata dominated the production of their movies so much that their work can't be replicated once they have left. That's why I felt their retirement was the end of what we think as "Ghibli".
 
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Deleted member 17706

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He does say "take a small break" in the subtitles. I don't imagine Studio Ghibli will go away. It does look like they will shut down temporarily to evaluate how best to go forward without Miyazaki, though.
 

ЯAW

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I'm really surprised Disney/Pixar hasn't bought the studio.
People at Ghibli wouldn't sell even if they tried. I have no problem with this, for me the studio was Hayao, Takahata and Suzuki and they are soon gone. Ghibli is all about great quality, but you can't keep doing what you are doing if your movies don't make money. Hayao is the only one who is assured box office draw. With $30M production budget + marketing budget you need to make good ROI or the risk isn't worth it. I rather see the animation side closed down then get watered down Ghibli films.
 
embrace the similar faced, musicals for everything, generically bland digital future
Disney during Disney Renaissance was amazing. They had an amazing movie every year with handdrawn animations. Aladdin, Lion king, Pocahontas, Mulan, Hercules, Tarzan, The Hunchback of Notredamn, The Little Mermaid... how can anyone hate that
However they somehow just fell down a cliff in the 2000s and after that they never came back (Treasure Planet, Emperors new groove, Lilo^Stitch, Brother Bear were all meh in comparison to what they had before my opinion). Princess and the frog in 2009 was the first musical peace with traditional animation they did in ages. But then they abandoned that too and now they are doing 3D only (which is still better than nothing).
 

Mudron

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Really, with Miyazaki and Takahata (the two founders of the studio, aside from Toshio Suzuki) gone, Studio Ghibli would practically have to re-invent itself anyway, which wouldn't have been an *impossible* task, but would've been unfair to an entire generation of up-and-coming Ghibli animators who would've been stuck being unfairly compared to Miyazaki and Takahata's bodies of work.

I'm assuming the Ghibli museum will remain intact (it'll probably be the centerpiece of Ghibli's existence as a licensing entity now), so at least there will still be a physical representation of the studio's works out there in the world.

(Also, the documentary where Miyazaki briefly talks about Studio Ghibli's inevitable collapse is fucking fantastic - it's not super dramatic, just a fly-on-the-wall journal of Miyazaki frumping around while working on his last film, but it's a great peek into how things at the studio worked.)
 

genjiZERO

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Save them Disney.

No way man.

Like I said in the other thread, it's just a collection of people. There's bound to be another collection of people with similar talent again. Like a rock band, it's better to just let it end than keep it going as a shadow of it's former self.
 
People have to stop saying this. Disney is gonna destroy the name even further.

If John Lasseter has any balls (I have my doubts) he would purchase Ghibli and turn it into an indie studio of sorts that would handle out-of-the-box, bold and risky animation projects backed by the money from the parents of bratty musical loving children.

I loved Frozen though, primarily because it was about sibling love. And Hans the Game of Thrones reject
 
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Deleted member 17706

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Yep. "Even" english sites would report it. But I find nothing but this one blog.

The "news" came from a documentary style show that just aired in Japan a few hours ago, which means it was recorded a while ago. The show's introduction even says the recording took place over 180 days.
 
I'm really surprised Disney/Pixar hasn't bought the studio.

they are not closing down the production because they are bleeding money. they are just seeing that its not a sustainable business without the miyazaki hayao name. if they just use the ghibli studio name to administer the legacy IP that alone should be a good business for them, although in a smaller scale. ghibli goods are big in japan.
Really, with Miyazaki and Takahata (the two founders of the studio, aside from Toshio Suzuki) gone, Studio Ghibli would practically have to re-invent itself anyway, which wouldn't have been an *impossible* task, but would've been unfair to an entire generation of up-and-coming Ghibli animators who would've been stuck being unfairly compared to Miyazaki and Takahata's bodies of work.

I'm assuming the Ghibli museum will remain intact (it'll probably be the centerpiece of Ghibli's existence as a licensing entity now), so at least there will still be a physical representation of the studio's works out there in the world.

(Also, the documentary where Miyazaki briefly talks about Studio Ghibli's inevitable collapse is fucking fantastic - it's not super dramatic, just a fly-on-the-wall journal of Miyazaki frumping around while working on his last film, but it's a great peek into how things at the studio worked.)
Marnie is just that. Its a Ghibli Fil but so un-miyazaki (aside of the fact that the protagonist is a young girl), yet so well made. So sad that it was burried in Japan.
 
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