FrenchMovieTheme
Member
it's not worth it to argue broham. the only thing that makes sense is the people who see no issue with this aren't hardcore sports fans who play every year.
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EA Access early limited-time game access is for 6 hours with the full game
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it's not worth it to argue broham. the only thing that makes sense is the people who see no issue with this aren't hardcore sports fans who play every year.
Vanderlyle
Banned
Of course you have to pay to play online man, this is next gen
Value is subjective for sure, however you can objectively trade in bf4, FIFA 14 or madden 25 and practically pay for a whole year of EA access with the money a store would give you for it. Then you have the game you traded in plus 3 others plus the 6 hour demos, plus the 10 percent dlc and digital game discounts. That's a great deal in my eyes.
Everyone knew there would be a time limit on early access, it was revealed before the subscription was for sale.
EA Access early access isn't just for people who have bought the game. Perhaps they could have added the season ticket stuff for folks who purchased the game. There should have been no surprise here that Season Ticket functionality would not be inside of EA Access.
The response in the link is clearly about game trials not people who buy the game.
the whole deal has always been talking about trials.
It would be cool if EA let subscribers buy games early but there is nothing in op link that says they will or wont.
HamsterPackage
Member
I get what your saying, I'm just irritated how EA has handled things lately. (NHL15)
I guess playing the game is a neat little perk, But 6 hours with Madden is nothing incredible. I'm sure Sony isn't celebrating not going with EA access, But I'm sure they aren't all that worried about it either.
You focused on the one thing in my post that I intentionally said did not matter, for obvious reasons.
It's true I think it's hilarious, because EA's catalog in my view is not nearly big or diverse enough to really warrant a subscription on its own, and early play was one of the main appeals. To me, this diminishes the value, even though it's still an OK amount of time, just not great. And even though admittedly it was very unlikely I would be getting it anytime in the near future, because I would have to see a few years go by with EA not consistently trying to fuck over gamers in order to legitimately trust them to dock my pay once per year. That said, I am watching it to see how much of a success it is, because then other companies will try to copy them, and in my opinion this leads gaming down a perilous path in which consumers have their rights degraded altogether in the form of invisible games they never really own and evaporate into the ether whenever EA or any other company decides to call it quits.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Man, not gonna lie I feel a little decieved.. wtf ea? Why cant we get the full game if season ticket is STILL on PS360 and they get the full game? Tell me!
iceatcs
Junior Member
Not too bad for full game demo hours, but I think it is the highest peak because of its a sport game. Story driven will be much lower I bet.
But I hope that mean it won't end of free EA games from Plus, I got dead space 2 & 3 and Burnout. I hope I might see more EA on plus in one day.
But I hope that mean it won't end of free EA games from Plus, I got dead space 2 & 3 and Burnout. I hope I might see more EA on plus in one day.
Handy Fake
Member
rEAsons.
Exactly how i see it, it's a neat little perk, nothing more.
And i agree, 6 hours with Madden is nothing incredible,
but apperently many people think so, otherwise whats all the fuzz about? =p
Don't think Sony is worried either, they are currently doing great. =)
No doubt 6 hours would never happen on a story game. It would be a chapter or something as limiting
You didn't have to buy the game to access the trial window under the Season Ticket program.
Also, if I already purchased the game, then what's the point of the Early Access?
Oh, thought that is what it was. My bad. To be honest, I never knew it existed, lol.
I feel like most of the people in the thread praising EA Access don't know the EA has, in fact, tried this before...
Understand the disappointment but it was stated that games would have different periods of play within the 5 day early access period with the range starting at at least 2 hours.
Yep, with their sports games. You couldn't get a discount on the sports game itself though right? Wasn't it just the DLC for the game?
Yep, with their sports games. You couldn't get a discount on the sports game itself though right? Wasn't it just the DLC for the game?
Did it have a vault type thing?
What's remarkable is that some people refuse to recognize the value that others see for themselves.
If I'm planning on buying DA:I digitally anyway and am super hyped for it, why not sub for a month and get $6 off plus play for some hours early?
If I want to play BF4, why not rent it for $5 for a month to play it (plus all the other vault games)?
If I know I'm going to play the shit out of BF4 multi, why not rent it for $2.50 a month for the year? Plus get all the other vault games, plus the early access?
If you hate all EA games, then this is not for you.
If you can't get over the Dungeon Keeper thing or some other EA shenanigans, then this is not for you.
But for some people, there is value to be had here. Stop pretending that the whole thing is shit and worthless for everyone. If EA pulls a fast one and the value goes away, then the subscribers will disappear. In the meantime, they will enjoy the games and discounts.
illmatic22
Banned
EA Sports season Ticket let you play Madden 3 days early, for as much as you wanted until Launch. This EA Access feels like a big step backwards in comparison
I didn't say there isn't value for some people, I said it is remarkable that anyone wants to trust EA with a dime after all the shit they pulled last gen. They literally pulled shit at a once every three month rate. In my opinion, that means people who subscribe are either not students of history or very much don't mind getting their hands burned. They're gamblers. That's cool, nothing wrong with a gambler. Occasionally a gambler makes money.
I'm just saying I find it fascinating and amazing. I'm genuinely entertained. I like some EA games, and don't like others. But even if I liked every single game they made (of course that could never happen since many of their releases - like Sims 4, Sim City and Dungeon Keeper - are actually emblematic of the ways they continually fuck over gamers), I would not be able to actually trust them with my money at the current point, because they have not stopped fucking people over.
I will observe what happens with this closely since it has large implications for the industry, and perhaps one day in the distant probably unlikely future EA will show themselves trustworthy again and I'll jump on board myself.
I'm only expressing my opinion man at the present time. I find it funny, seriously.
Holy shit. Wow
Holy shit! Call me crazy, but I "gambled" with £20. Seriously? =)
I get access to BF4, a game I want, and cant find cheaper.
I can sit tight for 1 year, and "enjoy" the benefits and discounts.
(Will buy FIFA, NHL and maybe DA)
If shit goes haywire, I simply just skip to sign up for a new subscription next year.
What is funny to you, is great value for me.
I guess I don't understand the outrage. I've gotten a fair amount of value out of the service simply from being able to play FIFA 14 and Battlefield 4, 2 games I would have never bought. The trial stuff is a nice little thing and it'll help me decide if I want to buy Dragon Age later this year. NHL is getting a demo but being able to access the whole game if even for a few hours will help me with that decision as well.
Couldn't you have just not subscribed?
Not a fan of Sony pretending to make choices for me
umm yea if your paying for EA Access shouldnt you get perks like getting access to the game early?
And you do
Truth of the matter is it could be six hours or the whole five days. The demo period will end and you'll have to buy the game. My attraction to EA Access is the Vault of games to play. Between it and Games with Gold I'm downloading more games and spending less more. Everything else is extra.
People consider values for different things. As we're establishing that fact, someone else's "I don't care money" is someone else's "I need to consider my choices more carefully" money. $30 is not chump change for many people. But, I do have the money. For me, it's about principles. I don't support companies that are consistently treating the very consumers that buy their products poorly. Supporting them in ventures like this means I would in some sense be endorsing their behaving, saying it doesn't matter what they do because they know they can always depend on my cash.
There are also other considerations that factor slightly, but when put against that larger principled stand get magnified. For instance, I don't trust EA, so of course I am not comfortable with the idea of my purchases being beholden to some digital service of theirs, waiting to disappear into the ether the second they give up or quit or close shop. These considerations are real.
I am not discounting at all that others may find it valuable, and don't care how distrustful EA has proven to be. That much is clear, there are people who just don't care. That's why this is a discussion forum though, 'cause it's a place for us to share our diverse opinions on the hot topics of the day.
I probably would be less engaged in this topic were it not for the severe implications of EA's service being a success. If they are successful, other publishers might jump on board with their own service. And the path that leads this industry down is a perilous one indeed in my view.
All that said, I still think Sony should have allowed EA to do this, and let the customers decide if it was the appropriate value and if they trust EA. I would side with the customers won't don't trust them, since they have demonstrated at a neverending rate that nobody should, but that doesn't mean I believe the choice should be taken away.
Most ignorant statement I've read today.
Please do tell
PapaEmeritus
Member
Its for Meme-bers only according to twitter
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Eh you could beat BF4 and probably other shooter/action games they put out in 6 hours if you really hall ass through them.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
You have to be kidding me. What he said was legit hop off the sony juice for a second yeah?
Spottiettiedop
Member
Any other companies you don't support?
Really? Because I think it would be pretty awesome for Ubisoft and Activision to do this too. Access to older games, discounts on new games, preview windows for new games to see whether or not I want to buy them...
Sounds like a good deal to me. I signed up for EA access over the weekend, and it kinda feels too cheap for what it is. I'm trading my PS4 copy of BF4 tomorrow which pays for a full year.
I'm perplexed as to the outrage here. It's not like we are talking questionable amounts of money like $100 or so. $30 is nothing considering the retail value of the stuff In the vault, making everything else icing.
I'm interested to hear what you think the "implications" are if other pubs follow suit. As long as it stays cheap, I don't care if the "Netflix for games" model takes off. GameStop suffers, everyone else wins is how I see it.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
...this seems reasonable...? Why are people up to arms about this...? I must have missed something. Is it simply because of the name EA?
Yep, I am actually wanting others to hop on this. If this shit was available for the 360 right now. I would be all the hell over it. Screw getting a couple random games (most of the time I already own at least one) every month. I'd much rather know what I am getting and once the services have been around for a bit, know at which point most older games go in the sub.
And MS.
Exploratory
Banned
Is it good value? Y/N. That's the only thing that matters. Oh no we don't get infinite free trials how terrible.
Should be cautious? Yes. Should you be aware? Yes. Should you say no solely based off past grievances? No.
Why did you expect something incredible for $30 a year, when you also get all those 'free' games, and discounts off games and DLC? The ability to play games five days early - even just for six hours - is part of the overall package. And if you think that package isn't worth $30, I don't know what to say...seems like a solid enough deal to me.
If people are going to refuse to sub on moral grounds because EA did some shit in the past on other games, they must not play many games.
Better than I was expecting.
Fifa demos are limited to 4 or 5 teams plying a 3 minute match.
Now I'll have the full game for 6 hours. I'll be able to check all squads, uniforms, modes, play online...
On top of that I get access to 4 premium games and 10 percent discount.
Don't know what people was expecting. 5 days for dragon age early access? Really? I'd could beat the game twice by then.
I'M glad Sony is making all the choice for you Theglade
Fifa demos are limited to 4 or 5 teams plying a 3 minute match.
Now I'll have the full game for 6 hours. I'll be able to check all squads, uniforms, modes, play online...
On top of that I get access to 4 premium games and 10 percent discount.
Don't know what people was expecting. 5 days for dragon age early access? Really? I'd could beat the game twice by then.
I'M glad Sony is making all the choice for you Theglade
Right. The other thing funny about the outrage is it's the same mindset that is applauding Sony for turning this down. It literally makes no sense.
Why wouldn't i want an option like this from all major publishers? If one of them implement it stupidly or raise prices, people will stop subbing and revert to the $60 model (or just buy games from different publishers!).
Options and competition have no downside.
bronkonagurski
Gold Member
I'm giving EA Access a test drive. The vault is the main source of value for me at this point. I'm far past the point of buying newly released sports games so I don't mind playing the prior year titles. And I've never played a Battlefield game before. Whether the vault continues to provide adequate value in the long-term, that is my main question right now.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Six hours isn't enough for any game ? What the fuck am I reading here. Last generation a lot of demos only offered a very limited time frame and made or broke that particular game in the minds of millions. A few bucks saved, one to look for for or a day one purchase.
The guys who worked on FIFA 10 particularly didn't need six hours to get the hype for a demo that converted a lot people from it's competition, which includes only four teams and a 1 v 1 mode with one stadium and 5 minutes a match.
One of the most disingenuous posts I've read on here for a while and that is saying something.
statham
Member
they need to launch both on XB1, One where you get the vault and the sports one, where its limited to sports but unlimited gameplay for 5 days.
This can't be stressed enough. I can guarantee that most of the people in this thread never even knew Season Ticket existed. If you paid for season pass you played early access games for more than 6 hours. I used to play the shit out of Madden and Fifa before the actual game came out, and my progress all carried over. I paid for EA Access and I'm pretty disappointed to hear about the time limit. Sure there are other reasons to have it, but what good is a game a week early when you're being limited?
Exactly.