BMO = GOAT
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I'm trying to decide between Wolfestein or Metro Redux, for those who have played both, which is better?
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Metro: Redux |OT| Once more into the Metro, with feeling!
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Summer Haze
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Has the patch already been released for the PS4 version?
If not, do you think the lighting will be upgraded, like it was for the PC version post-patch?
If not, do you think the lighting will be upgraded, like it was for the PC version post-patch?
I can play Last Light in ULTRA and with physx around 50fps average, mostly 60fps thanks to the tweak guide from Gaf
and i assume if i disable physx i will be fine at 60fps most of the time.mercenar1e
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Kssio_Aug
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Thats really unexpected. I mean, I chose this version cause DF said the only difference was the resolution when compared to the PS4 version, and there was no statemant about crashes or long load times. I hope its just a bug on the released version that will be quickly fixed! I really hope so!
NexusGamer
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They are rather different experiences
Wolfenstein for old school, loud shooter with explosions
Metro for more atmospheric, survival like experience
Dictator93
Member
Well, thanks! game is looking better already for it!
There are still a number of missing volumetric lights though in comparison to the first game.
For example:
Metro 2033 Redux PC: (all fake billboards)
Metro 2033 Original: (all volumetrics)
etc... etc...
Perhaps these shall see patching day at some point I imagine (along with the others I will encounter in all likelihood whilst playing the game further). IMO, someone should go scene by scene in a comparison and then re-add them in, if possible. They really add to the mood and atmosphere of every single scene they are in. And they are basically in every scene multiple times in teh original, yet of course, still missing in metro 2033 Redux post patch.
Want a list?
I am dilligent!IMO, I really doubt that occuring given how intensive those lights are.
Hi there! Can you please add motion blur to the PS4 version at least?
Chance Hale
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Will say that even post-patch the smoke effects from guns are heavily toned down to non-existent compared to the original.
BMO = GOAT
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The Dear Leader
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I think that video is pre patch, no? Clearly from the shots posted here it looks a hell of a lot better than the version of Redux they used in that video.
Same here! Apologies for my bad grammar, kind of heated at the moment Haha. I also tweeted them about the issue. I'm uninstalling and re-installing the game, hope it works.
60 is the target for Uncharted 4I'm downloading this for PS4 as we speak
They should have gone with 30 on this one, it's suppose to be an atmospheric survival game, graphics and effects takes a first priority in this case, framerate isn't as important, 30 is good enough for such game.
They really messed up with their decision to target 60 (which reminds me- PLZ ND don't target 60 for UC4!)
I'm downloading this for PS4 as we speak
They should have gone with 30 on this one, it's suppose to be an atmospheric survival game, graphics and effects takes a first priority in this case, framerate isn't as important, 30 is good enough for such game.
They really messed up with their decision to target 60 (which reminds me- PLZ ND don't target 60 for UC4!)
Ew, no.
Please ND and all other devs, do not listen to this person!
I'm downloading this for PS4 as we speak
They should have gone with 30 on this one, it's suppose to be an atmospheric survival game, graphics and effects takes a first priority in this case, framerate isn't as important, 30 is good enough for such game.
They really messed up with their decision to target 60 (which reminds me- PLZ ND don't target 60 for UC4!)
Erm... no.
Obviously the console versions aren't going to stack up to the PC version but it looks damn good on the new consoles. 60fps does so much for gameplay, especially in a shooter, and I am a big fan of the fact that a lot of devs seem to be targeting that 60fps over 30fps with bells and whistles. (see Naughty Dog and 343i)
I know, maybe they will see this post and decide to change their plan
Summer Haze
Banned
I'm downloading this for PS4 as we speak
They should have gone with 30 on this one, it's suppose to be an atmospheric survival game, graphics and effects takes a first priority in this case, framerate isn't as important, 30 is good enough for such game.
They really messed up with their decision to target 60 (which reminds me- PLZ ND don't target 60 for UC4!)
I couldn't disagree more when it comes to this game. FPS's should always be 60fps.
Yes, would like to know too. Having completed LL earlier this year I'm not convinced about picking this up yet. 2033 patch looks awesome though, props to the devs for listening.
Lol screw the X1 right?
Chance Hale
Member
Knife is garbage for using against monsters now :/
CyberPunked
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I feel that way most of the time, but this isn't a twitched based shooter or whatever.
Would you not prefer this:
PC:
Over this?
PS4:
Don't you prefer UC4 to actualy look close to the reveal teaser?
The reveal cutscene ran at 60fps.
The reveal teaser was in 60fps.
Anyways, getting off topic. To the poster two posts above, it's not like making the console versions 30fps will magically put it on-par with the PC versions.
Summer Haze
Banned
I feel that way most of the time, but this isn't a twitched based shooter or whatever.
Would you not prefer this:
PC:
Over this?
PS4:
Of course.
But I'd rather have the bottom at 60fps over the top at 30fps.
CyberPunked
Member
Fair enough.
This patch means that all benchmarks are pretty much useless now. Not that I'm complaining about this massive visual improvement post-launch (take not Ubi)
PinkCrayon
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Hmm, only 25% discount for the bundle despite owning both 2033 and LL. Bug?
shinobi602
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Why is there a comparison between a native 1080p PC screencap and a compressed-to-hell-and-back PS4 stream?
CyberPunked
Member
It's more a comparison of lighting and environment detail, than IQ.
I'm on PC and I'd still take the bottom over the top if it was a choice between 60 and 30. A better playing game always wins over a prettier one.
Chance Hale
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Because the point is to show the lighting differences which is entirely different than IQ. The difference is clear.
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So it's clear the PC version got a substantial improvement from a patch... as if there was a rendering issue in the shipped version. Have to wonder if there is a similar hitch in the console versions? Doubtful, but there hasn't been any patches for the X1/PS4 yet, correct?
No, the 50% discount was for pre-orders only.
Chance Hale
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The console versions are completely lacking tessellation so I doubt it. They're targeted at 60 FPS, sacrifices have to be made. I'm getting the best of both worlds because I have a 780Ti but you can't expect that sort of performance from the consoles.
shinobi602
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Ah ok, still, all it does it bring about knee-jerk fly by reactions...it's never a good idea to compare screenshots unless you have direct grabs from two platforms. In any case, I'm very happy with how the console versions look.
PS4 version:
Courtesy of Net_Wrecker
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Deleted member 17706
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Wow, the 50% discount on Steam was only for pre-orders? Screw that noise.
I guess I'll wait for the Christmas sale.
edit: and it looks like this might even be another downgrade remaster like Deus Ex: HR? Hmm....
I guess I'll wait for the Christmas sale.
edit: and it looks like this might even be another downgrade remaster like Deus Ex: HR? Hmm....
Stratosphere
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Thanks shinobi, that looks good to me. Hype restored.
Supposedly they took out the ability to buy the stealth suit and flak armor. That doesnt sit right with me.
Kssio_Aug
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Does Last Light suffers from the same problem?
And dont worry about your grammar, mine is not so good neither. Lol
therealminime
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So happy with the performance of 2033 Redux on PC. I booted up normal 2033 and it runs at like half of the framerate then the Redux with the same settings. Been getting a pretty solid 60fps at 1440p, high settings, no SSAA, everything else turned all the way up. It plays so much better at 60 (and with LL's gunplay).
I also definitely prefer the look of the Redux then original 2033, I'm not sure why.
I also definitely prefer the look of the Redux then original 2033, I'm not sure why.
Yep, total downgrade.
And thanks for posting those shots shinobi, looks about as good as you'd expect from the console versions. Bummed about the no motion blur as it's so damn good in LL, but it is what it is I suppose.
The Dear Leader
Banned
You can get the Redux bundle for 7 TF2 keys (about $17) on TF2outpost.com
Chance Hale
Member
Yep, total downgrade.
And thanks for posting those shots shinobi, looks about as good as you'd expect from the console versions. Bummed about the no motion blur as it's so damn good in LL, but it is what it is I suppose.
That is the 360 version compared to redux, not exactly accurate.
IcyRhythms
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Game looks great on PC. Some shots I took
Very nice shots
Yeah, the game looks amazing. PS4 version seem to be running at low-medium. 1080p @60FPS is awesome. 4A know how to remaster a game.
I would love to see this engine used in Fallout. Hell, 4A should consider an open world action RPG.
Dictator93
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A reminder everyone, as my post above shows, the PC version is not fixed in this patch. Just certain sections have been adjusted.
Most of the game is still missing the volumetric lights from the first PC release.
Most of the game is still missing the volumetric lights from the first PC release.
Haha I haven't tried it as I was hoping to finish the games in order
Still represents graphical upgrades regardless of what platform.
Chance Hale
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Showing that it is improved from the 360 version doesn't prove that it's not a downgrade for the PC.