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[Kouriozan]

 

[georly]

Assuming the eshop doesn't explode and it doesn't take an hour and a half to download, i'll be playing smash 4 in exactly 10 days!

 

[PadWarrior]

Still no word on a direct?

 

[MagiusNecros]

Metroid stages bland? Who would have thought?

The Metroid stages in Brawl were also bland.

 

[SuperSah]

I think you mean 31 days!

Spoiler

i'm salty

 

[Toxi]

Question: Why do people assume all the characters were revealed on the character select screen? The point of the video is to reveal anything that might be considered inappropriate, not show the entire game in detail.

Yeah, it's bland as hell, but ah well. :/

Dead or Alive Dimensions made the same stage look so much better just by dialing up the orange.

Metroid stages bland? Who would have thought?

The Metroid stages in Brawl were also bland.

Yeah, but Metroid is full of interesting-looking worlds so it sucks that the Smash stages haven't been stellar.

 

[random25]

Isn't the Wii U and 3DS one different?

3DS one looks to be more flying around the circumference and atmosphere of planets (and fucking awesome shaders), and the Wii U one appears to be colliding worlds.

I guess I happen to like both versions.

I think this gen's FD will be the coolest yet

Spoiler

unless you count the FD variations of some other stages...

I'm also pretty excited on the BGM in FD. While I thought Brawl's stage design is bland, it's music is the best.

...before the inevitable collapse of this thread (or the next thread) due to leakzzzzz...

 

[emb]

Metroid stages bland? Who would have thought?

The Metroid stages in Brawl were also bland.

At least Norfair looked cool.

And Brinstar in 64/Melee kinda captured the mood well enough.

They're all awful to play though, aside from kinda Frigate.

 

[InvincibleAgent]

It's all the same video, just from different stages of having things unlocked. None of the leakers had the game, just the video. That's why all the DLC leaks were completely made up.

So the lock screen pic may have been taken before all of the characters were unlocked. So we don't really have any evidence that there are any more characters.

 

[Nia]

Metroid stages bland? Who would have thought?

The Metroid stages in Brawl were also bland.

Thing of it is, they don't have to be. The Metroid series has many exceptional locales from which to choose from. But Metroid will probably never get the proper representation it deserves.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Lava rises onto a stage of some generic platforms
Giant monster makes the stage rotate every so often

Metroid levels

Spoiler

Pyrosphere is a combo breaker for Metroid levels

 

[Beelzebufo]

So the lock screen pic may have been taken before all of the characters were unlocked. So we don't really have any evidence that there are any more characters.

That's correct! I mean there could be, but there's no reason to think so other than some kind of gut feeling.

Lava rises onto a stage of some generic platforms
Giant monster makes the stage rotate every so often

Metroid levels

Spoiler

Pyrosphere is a combo breaker for Metroid levels

It's like a remix. It has lava and a giant monster, but in a slightly different way.

 

[Toxi]

At least Norfair looked cool.

And Brinstar in 64/Melee kinda captured the mood well enough.

They're all awful to play though, aside from kinda Frigate.

I think most stages are decent to play on when you're not playing too seriously. We all had no problem playing on Mute City or Pokefloats. The problem comes with stages where the stage gimmick feels like it overrides everything else, such as Icicle Mountain's awful scrolling.

 

[Kouriozan]

So the lock screen pic may have been taken before all of the characters were unlocked. So we don't really have any evidence that there are any more characters.

Yeah, today pics don't really confirm there will be more characters.
Not so long to wait for real confirmation anyway

 

[MagiusNecros]

Thing of it is, they don't have to be. The Metroid series has many exceptional locales from which to choose from. But Metroid will probably never get the proper representation it deserves.

I think Sakurai does it on purpose honestly.

We could be having Federation and Space Pirate skirmishes in Space but no can't have that.

 

[Tripon]

 

[georly]

Thing of it is, they don't have to be. The Metroid series has many exceptional locales from which to choose from. But Metroid will probably never get the proper representation it deserves.

Sakurai hates metroid and donkey kong confirmed. Zelda also got no newcomers. Sakurai hates zelda confirmed. He also abandoned his baby, kirby. No new kirby newcomers, no great kirby stages.

All sakurai cares about is mario and kid icarus.

 

[Kensho]

YOU HAD TO USE MY FAVORITE MOMENT FROM MY FAVORITE REVEAL T_T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Epp1E8dEMo

Best track so far man.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Sakurai hates metroid and donkey kong confirmed. Zelda also got no newcomers. Sakurai hates zelda confirmed. He also abandoned his baby, kirby. No new kirby newcomers, no great kirby stages.

All sakurai cares about is mario and kid icarus.

He gave Kirby Ultra Sword and DeDeDe has yet to show his FS. Which might be Masked DeDeDe. So Sakurai still likes Kirby. And Sakurai will always hate Zelda until Ganondorf is actually put into a Smash Bros game.

 

[StreetsAhead]

Yeah, today pics don't really confirm there will be more characters.
Not so long to wait for real confirmation anyway

At most, I think it's Sakurai hinting there are more unannounced characters, like Ganondorf and Duck Hunt.

This is somebody's first Smash game, after all.

 

[georly]

He gave Kirby Ultra Sword and DeDeDe has yet to show his FS. Which might be Masked DeDeDe. So Sakurai still likes Kirby.

newcomers + stages = love

No newcomers or stages = hate

 

[IntelliHeath]

At most, I think it's Sakurai hinting there are more unannounced characters, like Ganondorf and Duck Hunt.

This is somebody's first Smash game, after all.

Bingo.

 

[SuperSah]

I guess I happen to like both versions.

I think this gen's FD will be the coolest yet

Spoiler

unless you count the FD variations of some other stages...

I'm also pretty excited on the BGM in FD. While I thought Brawl's stage design is bland, it's music is the best.

I wonder what the BGM will be.

Remix of the main theme?

 

[MagiusNecros]

newcomers + stages = love

No newcomers or stages = hate

What if they have no newcomers but new stages like Metroid?

 

[Kouriozan]

At most, I think it's Sakurai hinting there are more unannounced characters, like Ganondorf and Duck Hunt.

This is somebody's first Smash game, after all.

Yes, it's understandable, not everyone saw the leaks.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

It's like a remix. It has lava and a giant monster, but in a slightly different way.

I'm surprised Fusion or Metroid II didn't get 3DS stages. Both would have been really interesting and different scenes, especially Fusion.

 

[maxcriden]

Still no word on a direct?

http://mynintendonews.com/2014/09/0...e-localized-pokemon-playing-cards-for-russia/

 

[georly]

What if they have no newcomers but new stages like Metroid?

Still hate. Has to be both or he doesn't love them. He REALLY loves mario. 2 newcomers, like 6 stages.

He loves fire emblem, kid icarus, pokemon, and mario. Hates everything else.

 

[Toxi]

Sakurai hates metroid and donkey kong confirmed. Zelda also got no newcomers. Sakurai hates zelda confirmed. He also abandoned his baby, kirby. No new kirby newcomers, no great kirby stages.

All sakurai cares about is mario and kid icarus.

For Metroid, it's just bad luck, but for Donkey Kong, I'm not sure you can argue anything but malice.

Hence my theory that Sakurai is actually King K Rool.

 

[Beelzebufo]

What if they have no newcomers but new stages like Metroid?

Nah, the stage is bland though. But it does have a beloved fan-requested boss, so I guess he likes Metroid now?

 

[Caffeine]

Assuming the eshop doesn't explode and it doesn't take an hour and a half to download, i'll be playing smash 4 in exactly 10 days!

i find eshop downloads are faster with the download later button and leaving it in standby then sitting there and watching the little blocks fall into the game lol.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Still hate. Has to be both or he doesn't love them. He REALLY loves mario. 2 newcomers, like 6 stages.

If Bowser Jr. gets the Koopalings as alts that's like 8 Mario reps in one.

Nah, the stage is bland though. But it does have a beloved fan-requested boss, so I guess he likes Metroid now?

He is Other Ming it up though. And NeoGAF loves that game so much.

 

[J@hranimo]

This is still Top 3 for best reveals alongside Greninja and Shulk.

Also fav stages so far?

3DS: Paper Mario and Rainbow Road.
Wii U: Pilotwings, Palutena's temple, Kalos League, Final Destination...I like almost all the Wii U stages so far.

 

[emb]

I think most stages are decent to play on when you're not playing too seriously. We all had no problem playing on Mute City or Pokefloats. The problem comes with stages where the stage gimmick feels like it overrides everything else, such as Icicle Mountain's awful scrolling.

In general I'm kinda picky about stages. I want the stage to influence how the fight flows and what options are available, but I don't ever want to feel like I'm fighting the stage more than my opponent(s). But then sometimes even that can be fun, so I go back and forth with it.

Mute City was amazing. I wish it was back. Poke Floats was alright when we were being goofy. There are a bunch of other funky stages I actually enjoyed... but then there were stages like 75m and Icicle Mountain, that I always really hated.

 

[random25]

I wonder what the BGM will be.

Remix of the main theme?

Probably. Ever since Melee (can't remember for N64), it's always a remix of Menu theme for FD.

 

[maxcriden]

I'm surprised Fusion or Metroid II didn't get 3DS stages. Both would have been really interesting and different scenes, especially Fusion.

Just so you know how much I agree:

I'd also love to see a *descending* Metroid II-inspired stage:

 

[StreetsAhead]

Seriously, I want to see a DKCR stage once the 3DS version is out.

 

[Toxi]

newcomers + stages = love

No newcomers or stages = hate

Thank you georly. Now that you have proven to us that Sakurai doesn't hate Metroid, we can continue complaining about the shitty stage choices knowing that he just has really bad taste.

 

[georly]

i find eshop downloads are faster with the download later button and leaving it in standby then sitting there and watching the little blocks fall into the game lol.

Part of me wants to watch every single thing clink and fill up smash bros, part of me totally agrees with you and feels like it'd be better to close it.

Not to mention downloads can be interrupted if eshop goes down, but if you do download later, they can't be.

Thank you georly. Now that you have proven to us that Sakurai doesn't hate Metroid, we can continue complaining about the shitty stage choices knowing that he just has really bad taste.

i'm being tongue-in-cheek Plus, it needs 1+ newcomer and 1+ new stage or he hates it, duh. Metroid has 0 newcomers, so he hates it.

 

[Lunar15]

Best reveal will always be Robin/Lucina because it was unexpected at a time where we thought we knew what the roster was going to be. Of course, I'm biased as a big FE fan, but the fact that it was such a 180 from everyone's expectations right off the bat is what makes it so incredibly memorable. Add in Captain Falcon being a boss and the hilarious Chrom deconfirm and you have what amounts to by far the most entertaining reveal so far.

 

[maxcriden]

Seriously, I want to see a DKCR stage once the 3DS version is out.

....Just so you know how much I agree:

Yes. We need Itty Bitty Biters as a stage!

 

[Azure J]

You know, I just realized another cool Metroid locale they could have gone with if they wanted an explicitly mechanical or industrial looking stage. They could have gone with Generator B from the Norion act of Metroid Prime 3. I'm just wondering how the stage could reflect that amazing sequence where Ridley and Samus have their fight that breaks the glass floor leading to that Gandalf versus Balrog like boss battle.

 

[Kensho]

Man do you know what stages I miss? The N64 ones that never came back, these were my favorites.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Just so you know how much I agree:

I was thinking more like the scrap yard you fight Nightmare in. It would be so different of an area, with an obvious gravity altering gimmick. Nightmare is a good choice too because they can just rip his Other M model.

 

[MagiusNecros]

You know, I just realized another cool Metroid locale they could have gone with if they wanted an explicitly mechanical or industrial looking stage. They could have gone with Generator B from the Norion act of Metroid Prime 3. I'm just wondering how the stage could reflect that amazing sequence where Ridley and Samus have their fight that breaks the glass floor leading to that Gandalf versus Balrog like boss battle.

Could of had Elysia from MP3. Pretty mechanical for being up in the clouds.

 

[BGBW]

I wish the Project M guys ended up helping Sakurai's team create content some day... They do a great job and have great ideas for homages.

I don't see anything out of the ordinary here. Lots of people have suggested classic Falcon as an alt idea vs Sakurai coming up with NES Open Tournament Golf Mario which I'm pretty sure I've not seen suggested before.

I think he's doing just fine.

 

[Toxi]

You know, I just realized another cool Metroid locale they could have gone with if they wanted an explicitly mechanical or industrial looking stage. They could have gone with Generator B from the Norion act of Metroid Prime 3. I'm just wondering how the stage could reflect that amazing sequence where Ridley and Samus have their fight that breaks the glass floor leading to that Gandalf versus Balrog like boss battle.

Generator B's not that exciting. If we had to go for a Prime 3 stage where Ridley was fought, I'd prefer the Leviathan. Sure, it's a big arena without much to serve as a gimmick, but it looks spectacular.

 

[maxcriden]

I was thinking more like the scrap yard you fight Nightmare in. It would be so different of an area, with an obvious gravity altering gimmick. Nightmare is a good choice too because they can just rip his Other M model.

But...but you don't fight Nightmare in Metroid II....

 

[Kouichi]

Man do you know what stages I miss? The N64 ones that never came back, these were my favorites.

I miss the superior Great Fox stage from 64. Sector Z was the best.

 

[The Captain]

Favorites for 3DS are Paper Mario and Spirit Train. Favorites for Wii U are Garden of Hope and Pilotwings.

As for a Donkey Kong stage, I think Sunset Shore from Returns would be perfect, especially if it implemented the whole shadow mechanic.