ethomaz
Banned
Yesterday I got a purple from blue engrams... sad it was for Hunter (at least I already have when I get my Hunter in lvl20).
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Destiny's "Raids" Thread: "Vault of Glass" is OPEN
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MiamiWesker
Member
Thanks for the thread the other one is a mess. I read about the boss that teleports. I can't watch streams today so some summaries of what occurs in raids would be sweet.
Being on the bleeding edge of content and brute-forcing raid bosses will always be brutally difficult, and will always be for a very small minority of players.
People watching this stream for 15 min, seeing they've been on a boss for hours, and then shouting "impossible!" don't get it.
Boss strats will be worked out and circulated. People will slowly gear up beyond 26. Within a month, people will have the raid on farm.
People watching this stream for 15 min, seeing they've been on a boss for hours, and then shouting "impossible!" don't get it.
Boss strats will be worked out and circulated. People will slowly gear up beyond 26. Within a month, people will have the raid on farm.
marianitten
Banned
So is the raid "lore" connected with the main campain? Or is just a side "quest" ? I'm thinking in WoW or FFXIV where final boss of the game was in the top Raid.
but i wanted to complete it today in under an hour. i wish bungie would stop holding me back from experiencing content
Jackbooted
Member
A lot of these raid mechanics are completely new to players in Destiny and it's going to take them time to get used to the required activities.
Strikes would have been an excellent training ground for the raids but Bungie made all the lower level bosses fairly generic.
The main take away from watching the streams for me has been that the group needs to control the chaos and cut down on unnecessary movement. Lots of random running around and getting their asses blasted due to it. Focus fire, move efficiently, position correctly.
Strikes would have been an excellent training ground for the raids but Bungie made all the lower level bosses fairly generic.
The main take away from watching the streams for me has been that the group needs to control the chaos and cut down on unnecessary movement. Lots of random running around and getting their asses blasted due to it. Focus fire, move efficiently, position correctly.
KeyboardThug
Member
Is there a way to tell if anyone has completed the raid yet?
pokeystaples
Banned
I laughed hard and loud.
Well, with my friends, we already put a date to this:
Next saturday... afternoon... 8 hours at least free... trying to level up the most possible until then.
I see now what Bungie is trying to do here: raids are not "mainstream" quest, are special events in game and off game too and you must be prepared for that.
We are all at level 22-24, but It seems almost impossible to go there with these levels...
Next saturday... afternoon... 8 hours at least free... trying to level up the most possible until then.
I see now what Bungie is trying to do here: raids are not "mainstream" quest, are special events in game and off game too and you must be prepared for that.
We are all at level 22-24, but It seems almost impossible to go there with these levels...
xclaw
Member
Still the first one, only tripleWRECKTV have gotten it down to almost 1/4 health.
ethomaz
Banned
From what I see lvl 28 is a good start... below that will be difficult... different abilities/classes and weapons damage helps too.
I guess not.
CrimzonSamurai
Member
They mention "The Vault of Glass" in one of the story missions on Venus iirc. It's connected in the sense that it's some kind of Vex stronghold that they're using as a staging ground for their Venusian campaign.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Same as in high level Strikes. Ran the Heroic Weekly Strike with a Gaffer and another guy and you had to be real careful with running out in the open. Made everything very realistic. 3-4 shots and you were toast. Also, you have to be revived there is no respawning. Many moments with an important teammate down and you had to figure out a way to get to their position. Also couldn't bunch up as enemies like grenades more in the more difficult Strikes and heroic missions. They will try to flush you out with grenades or flanking maneuvers.
Perhaps a team can train together in high level Strikes, 3 at a time, and then move onto the Raid? Or just learn on the fly.
speculawyer
Member
Wait . . . you need engrams to advance to the next level? Was some Bungie guy a Scientologist?
In game gear advances you to the next level from 20, but blue rarity stuff only gets you so far. Purple gear is what you need, and engrams have a chance of providing that gear(More often than not, they don't).
PrivateWHudson
Member
Is it just me or are they really not communicating at all? I mean they're talking, but not really talking about what to do, or what needs to be done at all. During the weekly raid, someone was calling out locations and direction and player status pretty much the whole time.
Lostconfused
Member
Nah all of these players are fairly casual. I mean it takes no serious effort to grind to 26+ outside of time investment.
None of the streams so far that I've seen have shown hyper competent players in impossible situations. Rather this is fairly average players getting overwhelmed by the chaos around them.
ethomaz
Banned
Your level is related to what gears you use... it is like you have the defense power level.
I have a defense power level 24 because my gears together give me this level.
PrivateWHudson
Member
Ah, that's cool then. If they've been plugging away not making progress, it's probably their best bet to take a break, regroup, try a different set of weapons, ect.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Wait, so it took Bungie 16 hours to do this, and yet these guys are attempting it?
Source: http://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=12068
Basically, it was a clan of top competitive FPS players who playtested the Raid and they weren't given any direction, tips, or help.
No, it didn't take Bungie 16 hours. That was a misquote based on early testing Bungie did when the raid was in development. (Edit: someone has the explanation bookmarked,
)The_Almighty_Swan
Banned
LOL!!! people strive to do the impossible.... doesn't mean they'll be able to accomplish it though.... It's fun watching them try.
pokeystaples
Banned
So, do you only teleport when there are three or more of you together? Why cluster? Or do you have to teleport for ammo and super replenishment?
You have a full week to finish the raid.
You have a full week to finish the raid.
PrivateWHudson
Member
There's two difficulties (Normal and Hard). Hard difficulty is unlocked once you finish the Raid on Normal.
Yeah they backtracked on that so much... but after watching these streams... I'd be inclined to think it will take that. At least.No, it didn't take Bungie 16 hours. That was a misquote based on early testing Bungie did when the raid was in development. (Edit: someone has the explanation bookmarked,
Some dudes have been playing since early this morning and are STILL on the first boss.
Wut.
Hmm, maybe an an achievement would be my guess, but I don't know though. Otherwise, you would need the dev to tell us who finished it first.
ComputerBlue
Member
Someone on playstationtrophies.org is saying that his fireteam is 7 hours in and they are only 50% finished.
If it's that long my interest has pretty much been completely lost. I don't have time for that, lol.
If it's that long my interest has pretty much been completely lost. I don't have time for that, lol.
matrixman92
Member
was watching the streamhouse one earlier when one of them had a mini meltdown and blamed everyone else for them failing...good times
Pattycakes
Banned
Keep in mind that is always the case when trying to clear new content. Once people work through it and guides will start getting written, that time will go do down significantly.
There's checkpoints in the Raid where you can save your progress there and continue on that point.
Keep in mind that checkpoint saves reset every Tuesday and the Fireteam leader that you played with previously in the Raid needs to be the same Fireteam leader himself in order to continue your progress.
Backfoggen
Banned
The other one had a similar situation. Pretty hilarious.
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Åesop
Unconfirmed Member
4 bosses for each tier. 8 bosses total
hannuraina
Member
Damn super excited to get in on this
pokeystaples
Banned
Åesop;130301621 said:
Saw that too! I have a meeting at 3, but I hope these guys get it. They seem to have the system down, just need to get it executed a little more tightly.
Soren_lost
Member
Bringing back so many wow memories, can't wait to try this tonight.
brickwalker0
Member
So no one else is bothered by all these exploitations for loot? The loot system is bad on its own but farming low level mobs with zero challenge makes this whole thing seem like a waste of time.
Lostconfused
Member
Not at all. People getting blown up by the 2nd raid boss non stop certainly puts any questions about challenging content to rest.
PrivateWHudson
Member
How do we know that?
Something on the app that was linked in the other thread.
Can i get some explanation on Raids structure? like how long can it take to finish, if you have checkpoint to continue later, is there a time limit to finish it, What makes it different/unique compared to Strike? overall the little i have seen, you just need to kill X amount of enemies + boss(es).
I never played MMOs so I cant relate to this gametype.
I never played MMOs so I cant relate to this gametype.