The one they are fighting doesn't look like anything i've seen. Looks pretty badass actually. I'll try to grab a screen grab if i can.
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Destiny's "Raids" Thread: "Vault of Glass" is OPEN
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The one they are fighting doesn't look like anything i've seen. Looks pretty badass actually. I'll try to grab a screen grab if i can.
Because they're stuck on the same boss with little sign of progressing to further bosses atm.
Are you sure the boss they are fighting doesn't look like a giant Vex?
KernelPanic
Member
Looks pretty awesome from the stream, Bungie wasn't kidding.
At least there's no repair bills .....
WoW memories lol.
At least there's no repair bills .....
WoW memories lol.
Manabanana
Member
Outside of a personal sense of accomplishment, I can't see any reason to drag myself or anyone through this headache after watching the streams. Worst of all is that I don't even think you can count on the loot being worth it at the end -- some pithy boots and helmet drop or something.
ethomaz
Banned
Nobody finished yet from what we knows but seems at least a 4+ hours experience... and yes you can save progress in checkpoints to play later but the progress is saved with the fireteam leader and it will be erased after a week.
Lostconfused
Member
The bungie APP lists raid progression, there are 2 tiers and 4 slots per tier. So at least 4 bosses or boss style encounters.
If it's anything like a MMO, you have the following to take into account:
1) Progression in a Raid is saved until Tuesday, when progress is reset.
2) Progression is saved when a boss is killed (or in some cases, a boss 'fight' could be a special kind of crazy puzzle or encounter meant to challenge people. I played The Old Republic - so look up The Eternity Vault puzzle to see what I mean by puzzle).
3) If you join a group of people who has killed a boss farther in than you have, and you party together and then kill a boss, your progress is saved and you wont be able to go back to kill the bosses you skipped until the Weekly reset.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Messofanego
Banned
So no one has progressed to the next boss? Is there a list of of the bosses? I've only seen this one boss.
Ken Masters
Banned
Åesop;130301621 said:
Bullet sponge after bullet sponge? That's game design for bungie?
There are 3 before this one.
Ken Masters
Banned
From what I'm watching it's just bullet sponge
Lostconfused
Member
Then you are not paying attention.
There are clear phases of the fight where you are expect to deal damage to the boss and where you have to clean up mobs. This isn't like a strike where you just have to whittle down a health bar. You need to get the damage buff going so you can do reasonable DPS.
matrixman92
Member
pretty much...with more added bullshit thrown at you. I am pretty sure I saw earlier, the boss most people are on right now, casts some kind of "death" spell on you if u take too long
SDCowboy
Member
That doesn't make the boss not a bullet sponge...
Lostconfused
Member
It's called an enrage mechanic, welcome to casual MMOs.
But it makes it more challenging and complex than just a bullet sponge, if you treat it like one you'll never manage to get past it.
Thank you, one last question, these Raid missions are timed events, or, for example this Raid been played right now, I can play it a month from now?
KernelPanic
Member
Looks frustrating as hell, adds randomly spawn and you die. No room for error it seems but raids always look like a train wreck early on when no one knows how to beat it.
I don't see how you're getting that from this stream. Yes, there is a boss you need to shoot a lot.
They have to fight off adds until half the team gets teleported. The teleported team needs to pick up the shield and kill the oracles while fighting off adds while the guy with the shield cleanses the debuffs. Meanwhile the other team is opening the portal to get them back.
Only once they are all back do they start damaging the boss thanks to the buff. Then it repeats. There is so much more going on then the "boss in the middle while you deal with adds" strike bosses.
Sounds like there's an enrage timer then. I like.
Are the fights basically gun down one guy and stay away from him? Or do they at least have a gimmick? Like fight three bosses at the same time, but you can only hurt one at a given moment.
AmethystEnd
Member
People like to dismiss fight mechanics in Destiny because it's an FPS and the ultimate goal is to shoot something until it dies. Their loss. I agree that most strike bosses are simple bullet sponges with adds, but everything I've seen from these streams of the raid is much more than that, and way better.
SDCowboy
Member
Challenge added to a bullet sponge just makes it even worse.
Yup.
A part of me thinks this Raid isn't made to be taken on by people under level 30.
Nestled_Grizzly
Member
Anyone wanna do the raid on ps4? I already have 2. Psn is Nestled_Grizzly. Just send me a message if you wanna join.
Better img of the boss. Does he look like an enemy people have encountered before?
It looks like a GateLord with extra spikes on his back and legs.
I stole the following from the FFXIV Raid FAQ, but I assume most if not all will apply:
-Raid is compromised of multiple dungeons/bosses (4 total bosses?)
-Progress is saved at specific locations for each player, and you may resume your raid where you left off.
-Progress is reset every week? (So if you can only kill 2 bosses for that week, it resets the next week and you'll be able to repeat those 2 bosses (for loot) and try to down the 3rd again)
-To enter, you must be in a party of six with a Level 26 or higher.
-The starting Point is determined by the Party leader's progress.
-Party members who have not progressed as far as the party leader may participate, provided they meet the entry requirements.
-In this case, their progress will be updated to the same as that of the leader. (Missing out of previous bosses loot and not being able to back track)
-Parties whose members have progress further than the party leader cannot resume a raid. (If you are further along in the raid the the leader, you won't be able to play with them for the week. You'll have to be the party leader and force the other members to your raid location missing out on previous bosses loot)
EDIT Afrocious beat me to the punch, but I'd also like to add, the way raiding works also allows for some messed up trolling as some people who are stuck on the last boss for the raid can advertise they are at the beginning of the raid. The troll advertises "looking for start of raid group!" Team proceeds to start the raid up and now force all the people in the group to the last boss enabling the people to miss out on the first few bosses' loot. This may also be a nonissue as I don't know how entering the raid works.
What does not being a bullet sponge even mean for an FPS boss?
matrixman92
Member
there is an achievement for doing a raid with nobody dying...seriously, fuck bungie
Ok. This is what I like. This is what I wanted out of Strikes.
Gotta admit though, Bungie needs some hardcore WoW raiders testing the raids out. That would fix everything PvE related.
maabus1999
Member
Watching that stream makes it look like the last boss is pretty buggy. Multiple forced resets.
Lostconfused
Member
The word "ENRAGE" in bold red text will literally pop up on screen.
More than likely there will be a point where the gear outscales the raid in the future and make it pretty easy to get that achievement.
Yep, their definition of hard is just increase the number of hits it absorbs and damage received.
But this is the first time in the whole game that they aren't doing that.
xclaw
Member
Keyser Soze
Member
I feel like Bungie have created a whole game built around the Tartarus fight in Halo 2 - which was one of the worst thins they ever did
Sounds like any other raid in a MMO kind of.
Duxxy3
Member
Raiding is all about coordination and gear. Everything else is secondary.
You have a 10:1 K/D ratio? Fantastic, that means nothing in raiding. It doesn't matter if you can jump shot well. A high skill level is not the number one requirement of raiding. Do you have patience? Can you follow direction? Can you communicate problems?
Raiding is the same regardless of what the game is called.
You have a 10:1 K/D ratio? Fantastic, that means nothing in raiding. It doesn't matter if you can jump shot well. A high skill level is not the number one requirement of raiding. Do you have patience? Can you follow direction? Can you communicate problems?
Raiding is the same regardless of what the game is called.