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Sunset Overdrive runs at 30 fps/900p

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Hopefully the LOD Distance has been pushed back because last video I remember seeing it had a very aggressive LOD that made details just pop in.
 

ryuken-d

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I'm actually way more interested in seeing a detailed run through the character creator. That's where this game is going to live and die with me.

haha oh man you must have loved FFXIV ARR the character creator was the tits. good thing the game was awesome too.
 

Shin-Ra

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Unless some high quality, native-res media's released, there's not much new to judge here. Do we even know what type of AA they're using now?
 

sn00zer

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We need to get the biggest Sony guys to pop up in this thread and point out how dumb "1080p/60 or no sale" folks are.

Common enemies.

Technical aspects have never made me not enjoy a game... unless a game is fundamentally broken because of issues like Wolf Among Us and Walking Dead, let the devs choose whatever they want.

There are very few genres that require more than 30fps fighting games, shmups, competitive shooters and rhythm games...after that its really up to the devs. I can understand arguments for competitive ames, but single player games absolutely do not require 60fps for most types of games.

It really really sucks that due to television hardware devs cant target 40 or 50 fps.

It looks gorgeous. The whole game feels like an apology for Overstrike becoming Fuse.

This made me laugh, so true
 
Cool by me as long as the frame rate is stable. I recall some videos released awhile back that had some definite stability issues in the night time scenes.

Came here to post this, I'm more worried about the stability because everything else look awesome. And I don't even own a Xbone (yet).
 
Someone at Sony made a mistake when they lost Insomniac, running at 900p and 30fps is just fine if the game is fun, its fun. I'm jealous. Not enough to buy an X1, but jealous.

A car can be fun to drive almost regardless of its specifications, quarter mile times do not rank the worthiness of the vehicle.
- Especially when there isn't yet (or ever) the option to get in this same car with a PS4 sticker on the bumper, and the bigger engine.
 

VinFTW

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Framerate looks to be in the 20-25 range at all times. Not good.

Most likely from an old build. If you were to google it, most of the hands on demos are stated to be very old builds that haven't taken advantage of the new SDK, which they said they would use to stabilize the framerate.
 

Horp

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Most likely from an old build. If you were to google it, most of the hands on demos are stated to be very old builds that haven't taken advantage of the new SDK, which they said they would use to stabilize the framerate.

A jump from 20-25 to 30 is pretty huge. In fact it would require that each frame is rendered 20-50% faster. And getting what some people call "locked" 30, would require the framerate to be a fair bit higher than that (and then capped by vsync).

Don't expect miracles. My guess is the game will be 30 when very little is going on, 25-30 in normal fights and below 25 in really heavy fights.
 

Gestault

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Framerate looks to be in the 20-25 range at all times. Not good.

This appears to be factually incorrect. According to the metadata I'm seeing with the raw file, it looks like it's almost always at 30. Do you have a framerate counter that's getting something else?
 
This appears to be factually incorrect. According to the metadata I'm seeing with the raw file, it looks like it's almost always at 30. Do you have a framerate counter that's getting something else?

uh, you dont read the meta data of a video file. That will always say the framerate of the video encoding.

When framerate drops you will see duplicate for multiple frames of that 30. That is pretty obvious to see at multiple points in the video.
 

AgentP

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This appears to be factually incorrect. According to the metadata I'm seeing with the raw file, it looks like it's almost always at 30. Do you have a framerate counter that's getting something else?

LOL. Frame rate counter software either count the torn screens or duplicate images. You don't get anything but the encoding frame rate from meta data.
 

SURGEdude

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Far an away my most anticipated Bone title. Not thrilled about 30fps but if its solid I'm not going to let that distract from what looks to be a pretty unique title. MS was smart to snag this up.
 

BokehKing

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Eh... I was going to buy the Xbox bundle for this, I thought it was going to be 1080/60 though

Hell, I could have lived with 900p/60

But yeah.. The wait continues until Gears of War


Its just odd, because that sunset overdrive hoodie is in 4k
 

VinFTW

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Eh... I was going to buy the Xbox bundle for this, I thought it was going to be 1080/60 though

Hell, I could have lived with 900p/60

But yeah.. The wait continues until Gears of War


Its just odd, because that sunset overdrive hoodie is in 4k

You didn't know this was going to be 900/30? This was announced MONTHS ago...


I...

...what?

You are completely changing your mind on a $400+ purchase on the basis of one of the games on the system being 900p/30?

This must be a joke post, surely.
This.


Must be a troll. Can't believe how many are out in this thread.
 

RoKKeR

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Eh... I was going to buy the Xbox bundle for this, I thought it was going to be 1080/60 though

Hell, I could have lived with 900p/60

But yeah.. The wait continues until Gears of War


Its just odd, because that sunset overdrive hoodie is in 4k

I...

...what?

You are completely changing your mind on a $400+ purchase on the basis of one of the games on the system being 900p/30?

This must be a joke post, surely.
 

sn00zer

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Forgive me if this is a stupid question:

Is it possible to tell the difference between 900p and 1080p in a living room setting?

Yes, but it is unlikely you will really notice the difference unless they are side by side. 1080p will always have a nicer image. 900p will be slightly blurred, but will look much better than 720p on 1080p televisions.
 

DirtyLarry

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Came here to post this, I'm more worried about the stability because everything else look awesome. And I don't even own a Xbone (yet).
I actually made my comment before seeing this latest YouTube video that was shared.

It looks pretty stable. Some hiccups here and there, but nothing hugely detrimental to the overall experience it seems.
 

Soi-Fong

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Disappointing being only 30 fps.. Unless, you're pushing Order 1886 graphics, shooters this gen should try to push for 60 fps.

It being 900p is the dealbreaker.
 

Kanokare

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one would think being at 1600x900 would at least afford the game a higher fps than 30.

In that case, "one" should clearly stop thinking and learn more about the parts inside a computer or console and how they work.

Disappointing being only 30 fps.. Unless, you're pushing Order 1886 graphics, shooters this gen should try to push for 60 fps.

It being 900p is the dealbreaker.

Your loss. Order looks like a game I'd play once for the story and then sell it. I don't think the attachment rate will be as high as Sunset. Lets just hope the attachment of Sunset is high enough. Sunset is more opened world rather than a pop-up shooter. I don't even know why we're comparing.
 
man, some people really can't appreciate a game for its own merits. does the tech stuff really bother you that much? can you not go back and play any older games because of resolution, or framerate? and its not even like there's a better running version of this game anywhere else right now, this is it. better tech is always great and thats fine, but a checklist approach to finding interest in a game is lame compared to just looking at and playing it for what its worth.
 

VinFTW

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Disappointing being only 30 fps.. Unless, you're pushing Order 1886 graphics, shooters this gen should try to push for 60 fps.

It being 900p is the dealbreaker.

Are you really comparing the Order to this game? One's an extremely vertical, open-world game and the others a linear, 3rd-person shooter....
 

MRMagoo

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This games graphics look exactly like that game on ps3 called pain. I dont get the hype some people seem to have for it. I wonder how the fps will hold when playing with more than one person.
 

TTUVAPOR

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LOL

Enjoy missing out on great games. One of the greatest games of the year, Horizon 2, is a locked 30fps.

No way I'd throw away some of the greatest gaming experiences I've had over framerate.

I look at it this way, 60fps is basically blu-ray for me. 30fps is DVD, so yeah, I've got some old movies on DVD, but slowly I'm buying the blu-ray versions of them...because why? Because it's high-def, not standard def.

30fps just seems dated to me, it's not smooth like 60fps, obviously...and no amount of eye candy is going to make a 30fps experience any better. I'd much rather have eye-candy sacrificed for 60fps.

And to the people who say, buy a PC...I own a PC, thanks. That argument is such a cop-out excuse. Forza Horizon would have probably looked amazing if they dropped a few HDR lighting things for 60fps.

I just hope that one day, 30fps becomes a thing of the past like DVDs are slowly becoming as Blu-ray takes over.
 

TTUVAPOR

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I remember when people used to play games for fun. Now it's about a benchmark. Sad times.

How can you say this today? 60fps gaming experiences are amazing. When you fire up a 30fps game, it's simply not the same, it's going down in quality.

You'd rather play a lower quality game because the eye-candy is shiny?
 

VinFTW

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I look at it this way, 60fps is basically blu-ray for me. 30fps is DVD, so yeah, I've got some old movies on DVD, but slowly I'm buying the blu-ray versions of them...because why? Because it's high-def, not standard def.

30fps just seems dated to me, it's not smooth like 60fps, obviously...and no amount of eye candy is going to make a 30fps experience any better. I'd much rather have eye-candy sacrificed for 60fps.

And to the people who say, buy a PC...I own a PC, thanks. That argument is such a cop-out excuse. Forza Horizon would have probably looked amazing if they dropped a few HDR lighting things for 60fps.

I just hope that one day, 30fps becomes a thing of the past like DVDs are slowly becoming as Blu-ray takes over.

This games graphics look exactly like that game on ps3 called pain. I dont get the hype some people seem to have for it. I wonder how the fps will hold when playing with more than one person.

Alright, I'm done with this thread.
 
30 FPS is less of a problem if the deliver is able to truly lock the FPS, but all too often we see developers claim they have locked at 30 FPS and it still dips into the low 20s on occasion and thats what is annoying more than anything. The fluidity of 60 FPS is a deal breaker in multiplayer, but I would never hold off a good game for being 30 FPS in single player if its solid.

I gave up on Bayonetta on PS3 for this reason. It wasn't the right call, because the game is legendary but the FPS dips was too gruesome, and such a splendid fast action game deserved to run more smooth than it did on that console.


As a high FPS enthusiast I understand the entitlement about demanding good FPS in games, but at the same time, I don't think all games are created equally in this regard. I swear to god, Crysis had this uber smooth motion blur that really hid the FPS drops I had on my gaming rig back in 2007. It was running 20-25 fps, but it felt more smooth than even Halo 3 did a lot of the time. I think it speaks more to the fact that games are different and depending on FoV, FPS drops and other things, in some games it mean more than others.


Overdrive looks very very good, so I remain cautiously optimistic. I hope this game will be a system seller because it looks like a fun world to explore. Fun and colourful in an almost Banjo-Kazooie-meets-Jet-Force-Gemini kind of way.
 
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