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[BiGBoSSMk23]

Driving line is pretty terrible. I started enjoying driving games when I shut it off. You have to actually learn the track and the game becomes more than just a moving game of Simon.

I don't think it has any place in an arcade racer. It actually prevents people from being good at the game.

Yeah but this doesn't really have a racing line, and it's also not totally arcade either.

The game sneakily teaches you how to approach cornering by segmenting parts of the track as spontaneous Cornering Face Offs, which are pretty much a sector racing line.

It works well.

 

[HTupolev]

I will be SO excited when they announce the next Dirt game.

RallyGameOffscreenSmall.gif is going to be breathtaking.

Spoiler

That's an original Xbox game.

 

[viveks86]

I might be LTTP, but gamespot seems to have released a second video today, focused more on the social aspects of the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBThW35aoT0&list=UUbu2SsF-Or3Rsn3NxqODImw

 

[BiGBoSSMk23]

The crash ahead took me by surprise. You get completely blinded for a moment by the dirt kicked up!

Mah man. So you did watch this one.

I rolled my car because in the same race prior to recording this one because the AI be cray.

Did you see the other one with the livery editor?

 

[teokrazia]

Brilliant thread title.
I saw the game over one year ago, well before the delay, and it looked so meh.
I'm pretty curious to try it now.

 

[Shin-Ra]

It's not the car lights. It's an HDR effect.

The lights on the dashboard turn on as it's leaving the tunnel.

 

[funkystudent]

Driving line is pretty terrible. I started enjoying driving games when I shut it off. You have to actually learn the track and the game becomes more than just a moving game of Simon.

I don't think it has any place in an arcade racer. It actually prevents people from being good at the game.

A full driving line is pretty unnecessary. I much prefer the kind that only pops up near corners to tell you, you are going too fast.


Still if Driveclub doesn't have any kind of line that seems like a incredibly dumb move.

With the lack of a rewind function it just dramatically increase the amount of race ruining crashes that that make you do the entire thing again.

 

[hwy_61]

A full driving line is pretty unnecessary. I much prefer the kind that only pops up near corners to tell you, you are going too fast.


Still if Driveclub doesn't have any kind of line that seems like a incredibly dumb move.

With the lack of a rewind function it just dramatically increase the amount of race ruining crashes that that make you do the entire thing again.

I still use a full driving line. I think I'm just used to having it now. I like it!

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Here you go. It's an archive.

Thanks. He sounded pretty damned happy with the game and although he wouldn't say if he was going to give a positive review and I think it's safe to say it will be at LEAST 8.5/10.

 

[Y2Kev]

I don't see the difference between a full driving line and a breaking line. It's still telling you when to hit the breaks, which turns it into a game of simon. You should learn the tracks. The game tells you when you are coming up on hard, medium, and light turns. Don't you know / don't you want to learn what that means for each car you're in in terms of speed you can take a turn?

I don't understand the complaint really. You'll have to redo races until you learn the tracks? Isn't that how we used to learn how to play racing games? I don't see how that's incredibly dumb.

 

[Vire]

I don't see the difference between a full driving line and a breaking line. It's still telling you when to hit the breaks, which turns it into a game of simon. You should learn the tracks. The game tells you when you are coming up on hard, medium, and light turns. Don't you know / don't you want to learn what that means for each car you're in in terms of speed you can take a turn?

I don't understand the complaint really. You'll have to redo races until you learn the tracks? Isn't that how we used to learn how to play racing games? I don't see how that's incredibly dumb.

What is the harm in including it for the people who like it? If you don't like it, turn it off?...

 

[Y2Kev]

There's no harm. I'm disputing that it is "incredibly dumb" and saying they are already giving you a lot of visual indication about what your speed should be.

 

[FuturusX]

HARD RIGHT

EASY LEFT

MAYBE

they should add that

I would love that...to actual death. Shit I might even have to dig up Sega Rally like right now.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

What is the harm in including it for the people who like it? If you don't like it, turn it off?...

Because if it's not there everyone has to learn the track the same way.

It separates the wheat from the chaff.

Don't be chaff, brehs.

 

[hwy_61]

What is the harm in including it for the people who like it? If you don't like it, turn it off?...

Yeah. I really don't like this whole, "I don't like a thing, and you're less than for liking that thing, cause its for babies!"

I like a driving line because that's how I have fun playing racing games.

 

[benzy]

The lights on the dashboard turn on as it's leaving the tunnel.

That's just the sunlight shining into the car and reflecting off the dash utensils.

 

[BruiserBear]

The lights on the dashboard turn on as it's leaving the tunnel.

Modern cars brighten the dashboard lights to compensate for brighter outdoor lighting. When my car turns on the headlights automatically as it gets darker, it also dims the dashboard backlight. Likewise when you turn off the headlights, the dash gets brighter.

 

[viveks86]

Mah man. So you did watch this one.

I rolled my car because in the same race prior to recording this one because the AI be cray.

Did you see the other one with the livery editor?

I just did. Had to stay away for a few hours to work without distractions. And man, have I been distracted all week!

I did see the livery editor. Pretty cool. But you didn't show how you designed the logo!

Modern cars brighten the dashboard lights to compensate for brighter outdoor lighting. When my car turns on the headlights automatically as it gets darker, it also dims the dashboard backlight. Likewise when you turn off the headlights, the dash gets brighter.

I can confirm this.

 

[Kenshin001]

A full driving line is pretty unnecessary. I much prefer the kind that only pops up near corners to tell you, you are going too fast.


Still if Driveclub doesn't have any kind of line that seems like a incredibly dumb move.

With the lack of a rewind function it just dramatically increase the amount of race ruining crashes that that make you do the entire thing again.

I think it's a good thing. You have to learn the car's handling strengths, learn the track, learn the corners just like a real driver. Racing games have been dumbed down enough. Saying that, a driving line is good for those people who pick up the game who are not so good at driving.

 

[BiGBoSSMk23]

I don't see the difference between a full driving line and a breaking line. It's still telling you when to hit the breaks, which turns it into a game of simon. You should learn the tracks. The game tells you when you are coming up on hard, medium, and light turns. Don't you know / don't you want to learn what that means for each car you're in in terms of speed you can take a turn?

I don't understand the complaint really. You'll have to redo races until you learn the tracks? Isn't that how we used to learn how to play racing games? I don't see how that's incredibly dumb.

DC doesn't tell you when to break or how to break. It just shows you the position you should be in for certain turns where there is a Face Off.

The rest of the race you're completely left to your own devices to figure it out.

It does have flags for certain turns, for example soft turns are green flagged, medium yellow, red hard. But they're just flags on the side of the track, purely anticipatory.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Modern cars brighten the dashboard lights to compensate for brighter outdoor lighting. When my car turns on the headlights automatically as it gets darker, it also dims the dashboard backlight. Likewise when you turn off the headlights, the dash gets brighter.

This makes sense.

 

[funkystudent]

There's no harm. I'm disputing that it is "incredibly dumb" and saying they are already giving you a lot of visual indication about what your speed should be.

Well its just dumb they are not using the standard visual indicator which has been used in racing games the last decade, or have the option for it.

It doesn't hurt to have it in there as a option.

Crashing my car on lap 5 of a race and having to restart because I overshot a corner just isnt my idea of fun anymore. I dont have time for that.

 

[VanWinkle]

Ugh. I was watching the gamersyde videos on my TV and my brother, who isn't even much of a gamer, walks in and says, "Nice 30 frames per second." And then, "It doesn't even look that good either." ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Then he says Burnout Paradise looked better.

 

[Dead Prince]

Ugh. I was watching the gamersyde videos on my TV and my brother, who isn't even much of a gamer, walks in and says, "Nice 30 frames per second." And then, "It doesn't even look that good either." ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Then he says Burnout Paradise looked better.

lol trolling you IRL

 

[BiGBoSSMk23]

Ugh. I was watching the gamersyde videos on my TV and my brother, who isn't even much of a gamer, walks in and says, "Nice 30 frames per second." And then, "It doesn't even look that good either." ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Then he says Burnout Paradise looked better.

Is he younger?

Cause if he is he just doesn't know any better. lol

 

[VanWinkle]

Is he younger?

Cause if he is he just doesn't know any better. lol

No, he's 24.

 

[hwy_61]

Ugh. I was watching the gamersyde videos on my TV and my brother, who isn't even much of a gamer, walks in and says, "Nice 30 frames per second." And then, "It doesn't even look that good either." ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Then he says Burnout Paradise looked better.

Your brother's fucking with you haha

 

[StuBurns]

Hoping the heavy rain effects on the windshield in cockpit view affects visibility unlike that other game. Evo still haven't shown off how rain looks in cockpit view so I'm wondering how it'll look.

Flicking through the thread, saw this gif, literally thought it was real. An all time first.

 

[viveks86]

Flicking through the thread, saw this gif, literally thought it was real. An all time first.

But it is real?

 

[def sim]

stu that's a real thing

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Ugh. I was watching the gamersyde videos on my TV and my brother, who isn't even much of a gamer, walks in and says, "Nice 30 frames per second." And then, "It doesn't even look that good either." ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Then he says Burnout Paradise looked better.

Thats funny, I was watching the gamersyde videos with my SO and she couldn't believe that was a videogame I was watching. She is not affected with console warrior syndrome

 

[admartian]

That crash gif is bothering me - that windscreen should at least have a crack in it. Bloody OCD.

 

[benzy]

Flicking through the thread, saw this gif, literally thought it was real. An all time first.

Lol

 

[VanWinkle]

Your brother's fucking with you haha

He didn't even know what game it was. He came back in and said, "What game are you playing?" I said that I wasn't playing and that they were videos for Driveclub. "Driveclub is 30fps? I have to say, I'm really disappointed." I know for a FACT he wasn't even going to play the game because he never plays racers.

 

[TimeEffect]

I might be LTTP, but gamespot seems to have released a second video today, focused more on the social aspects of the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBThW35aoT0&list=UUbu2SsF-Or3Rsn3NxqODImw

See, everything mentioned here is what makes me baffled that some of you expect 70 scores.

The accessibility of this game is a huge positive that I'm sure many reviewers are going to appreciate. It's not about coming #1 all the time. The social aspects are solidly integrated, and the UI constantly has an integration that promotes that competitiveness in club races. The club races themselves are team events that seem reminiscent of games like the Crew, except Driveclub is beating them to the punch.

Couple accessibility with solid gameplay, social integration, and incredible graphics, and I can't see how this game wont score 80+ on Metacritic.

 

[hwy_61]

He didn't even know what game it was. He came back in and said, "What game are you playing?" I said that I wasn't playing and that they were videos for Driveclub. "Driveclub is 30fps? I have to say, I'm really disappointed." I know for a FACT he wasn't even going to play the game because he never plays racers.

Hah. I wish I had brothers growing up.

 

[VanWinkle]

Hah. I wish I had brothers growing up.

Oh my goodness man. I have seven brothers and no sisters. Of course, I don't see many of them at any given time as we've all grown up, but still.

 

[StuBurns]

But it is real?

Damn, video games suck again.

 

[viveks86]

Damn, video games suck again.

On the bright side, this is probably an "all time first" as well. You confused real footage to be a video game!

 

[Omnistalgic]

HARD RIGHT

EASY LEFT

MAYBE

they should add that

son...is that from Sega Saturn Daytona U.S.A days?

Whoa, tickle my nostalgic bone some more!

So reviews gonna go like

Euro guys: We love this!

U.S guys: We don't understand why you want to drive and track stuff?!

 

[StuBurns]

On the bright side, this is probably an "all time first" as well. You confused real footage to be a video game!

That's an interesting, if less significant moment, true.

 

[CLEEK]

Driving lines makes no sense to me in an arcade racer. Pure sims, sure, where exact breaking points change per vehicle/setup. Games were racing lines are all important. In racing games where you're jostling for position and the game encourages drifts, then sticking to an exact racing line is not how most races will turn out.

Personally, I find in games which do allow racing lines, for as long as I have them turned on, I don't learn the track. I just blindly follow the colour code line. The only way to learn the track is to feel your way around it, and learning the turns, bends and bumps for yourself.

 

[Sodding_Gamer]

That's an interesting, if less significant moment, true.

Don't worry mate when you said that I had to do several double takes at that gif till realising it was real haha. Obviously shows how impressed we are with the graphics I guess!

 

[BiGBoSSMk23]

Modern cars brighten the dashboard lights to compensate for brighter outdoor lighting. When my car turns on the headlights automatically as it gets darker, it also dims the dashboard backlight. Likewise when you turn off the headlights, the dash gets brighter.

 

[CLEEK]

son...is that from Sega Saturn Daytona U.S.A days?

Sega Rally. Maybe.

 

[Gestault]

Hoping the heavy rain effects on the windshield in cockpit view affects visibility unlike that other game. Evo still haven't shown off how rain looks in cockpit view so I'm wondering how it'll look.

PLEASE check out this year's F1 game from Codemasters. It seems to take into account how rubbish visibility is in heavy rain. To the point where a whole line of cars is driving 15% below their top speed, which is otherwise unheard of in the sport. It's a game that has to deal with more league rejiggering than FIFA, every year, and they still seem to focus on doing more with less. The heavy rain simulation available only on last gen (though also PC) this time around is great evidence of that.

 

[OmegaDL50]

Sega Rally. Maybe.

Yep, it's Sega Rally.

I just played Sega Rally Online the other day and that announcer, announces when you need to turn and how hard turn is.

 

[BloodMoney]

Because if it's not there, everyone has to learn the track the same way.

It separates the wheat from the chaff.

Don't be chaff, brehs.

Indeed.

 

[VanWinkle]

Genuine question: why is crowd density even an adjustable option?

 

[Hawk269]

Genuine question: why is crowd density even an adjustable option?

Wait what??? That is an option? Wonder why and what impact it has.