And here this thread goes with the same debate with some of the same participants. This engine discussion will never go away it seems despite it not going anywhere the last time.
All I can say is that player model is extremely sexy and while I think some people might get too hyped for their own good, I don't see ND disappointing 99% of gamers graphically speaking. Some developers just have the faith of gamers due to their past games, nothing shocking. They aren't perfect and neither will U4, but it's not unreasonable for some people to be really excited and expect top-notch graphics from ND.
I actually have some deja vu right now since this almost reads exactly like the last discussion. The same ND discussion that's happened in the AC: Unity thread, the Dragon Age thread and countless others. I don't think either side is going to cave although I find it odd to look forward to people possibly being disappointed with a game.
We'll have to wait and see, but in the mean-time, I guess I should expect this same discussion to pop up in any thread relating to graphics...lol